User talk:Oldtreeman

July 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Corymbia ficifolia, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 08:15, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While you did add a cite, it didn't support what it was citing which makes in unverifiable. Bidgee (talk) 08:16, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The reference I was citing was the New Zealand Tree Register located on www.notabletrees.org.nz which lists a tree of this species known to be the largest recorded specimen in the world. After citing the reference an error was produced that required a reference section to be included. I was busy figuring out how to insert a reference list when my edit was removed.Oldtreeman (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing is stated on www.notabletrees.org.nz. It must be verifiable and stated by the source. Bidgee (talk) 08:34, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Therefore you are saying i need to include the direct link to the citation rather that to the website where the citation can be found ie http://register.notabletrees.org.nz/tree/view/32</ Oldtreeman (talk) 08:44, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. This is the way to cite and as you may have noticed in the diff is that I've added a section call References with a {{reflist}} tag to make the cite work rather then give an error. Some articles will not have any cited sources so may lack a References section and/or {{reflist}} tag. Bidgee (talk) 08:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your guidance - I was following the example of the reference to the tallest known tree on the Eucalyptus viminalis page but i see that this has been taken down for the same reasons - i picked a bad example!Oldtreeman (talk) 09:06, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of deaths from accidental tree failures in New Zealand (October 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RoySmith was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

All of the references look like they verify individual incidents, but I don't see anything which talks about this set of incidents as a group.

WP:LISTN says, One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources I'm not seeing that this is the case here. Please point out WP:THREE sources which satisfy that.

As a minor point, we don't use other wikipedia articles as sources (your reference #1).

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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-- RoySmith (talk) 13:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Oldtreeman! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! -- RoySmith (talk) 13:11, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:List of deaths from accidental tree failures in New Zealand concern

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:List of deaths from accidental tree failures in New Zealand

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]