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FYI

Just FYI on your request. I don't feel comfortable suggesting a particular admin to you. I do feel compelled to point out that the 3 names that GW suggested have all been admins for under two months. That doesn't mean that they can't help you, I just thought you should be aware that these are not "seasoned vets".--Cube lurker (talk) 13:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm trying to do this the right way. I guess I'll see what happens. -OberRanks (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

E-mail

Thanks for your message. I'll read it carefully this evening and get back to you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:25, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your good comments. On another matter, I was a bit upset to see the interaction ban discussion was started without even notifying me. I'm writing a statement as we speak. -OberRanks (talk) 12:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice timing -- I just found it myself and was heading over to let you know. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I wrote what I thought was a good statement on the ban proposal. Thanks again for your help. -OberRanks (talk) 12:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Restrictions

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Interaction ban: Mk5384 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and OberRanks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) are indefinitely banned from interacting with one another, indirectly or directly, except to participate in any future discussion that reviews this restriction.

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Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive625#Continued_attacks_during_RFC.2FU - Referenced and acknowledged -OberRanks (talk) 17:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Note

On 21 July 2010, OberRanks posted a message to this talk page [1] indicating they had received "via private e-mail what can only be construed as a death threat against [OberRanks] from [Mk5384] which [OberRanks] forwarded to another administrator".

I have been informed that this email has been determined to the best of our ability to have been sent by someone other than Mk5384 in an attempt to discredit Mk5384 (a false flag operation, sometimes known on Wikipedia as a joe job).

I am posting this message as OberRanks is currently under an interaction ban and cannot openly discuss Mk5384. OberRanks is permitted to succinctly verify what I have written here (something like "I concur with the above" would be sufficient, nothing more). Silence will similarly be understood as concurrence (if anything above is inaccurate, please email me or another administrator). –xeno^talk 13:12, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Xeno is correct. I have nothing further to add. -OberRanks (talk) 13:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. You may archive or remove this thread at your convenience. –xeno^talk 14:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

R. Lee Ermey's Awards

Oberrank, it looks like you originally made R. Lee Ermey's ribbon stack [File:ErmyMeds.jpg here] but someone added a Combat Action Ribbon and VSM afterward. Do you still have his DD 214 from the national archives? Even the picture of him in the article doesn't reflect the awards. Thanks --NortyNort (Holla) 22:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC) Disregard, I just noticed it was you in the discussion on his page. Whoops. --NortyNort (Holla) 22:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Meadowoods

I took another editor's suggestion and userfied this for you here; I also informed the deleting admin. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 19:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll go ahead and try to format this into something usable. It was a VERY disturbing movie. I had to tell myself those people were only actors. I could totally see college kids pulling something like that. -OberRanks (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of 119th SS-Standarte for deletion

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Not sure what the purpose of this is. That was an SS unit in Poland and its members were involved in the Holocaust. I've added same on the AfD page. -OberRanks (talk) 13:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, sorry I haven't replied to your query but I have been busy in real life. Essentially the way the article was written seemed to indicate it was a 'paper-based' administrative unit, and hence didn't meet the projects notability guidlines which state that a unit needs to meet certain criteria for inclusion in the encyclopaedia (please see WP:MILMOS/N). Of course the discussion at AfD has advanced a little since then anyway. I hope this makes sense. Anotherclown (talk) 10:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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Happy Veteran's Day

Just wanted to wish you a happy Veteran's Day! Thanks for keeping me and so many others free and safe. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Fair use rationale for File:DalyJames.jpg

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This was already fixed and a rationale added to the article. -OberRanks (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Again fixed, and the rationale template completely filled out. -OberRanks (talk) 14:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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Took care of it and added a rationale. -OberRanks (talk) 22:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:US-ForeignDecorations

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January 2011

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I didnt upload that image, I simply linked it to an article. The image itself already has non-free data explanation on it. -OberRanks (talk) 17:26, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Hitler's SS: Portrait in Evil

I just noticed a Wiki editor removed all the images of this article. It's a shame such petty rules are found in Wikipedia. Clearly, the image usage fit within the legal parameters of Fair Use .... who will sue for such minor, minor usages that in fact promote the film? Also, this comment, "All if not most of the actors are living, so free images are possible:" I've always found ridiculous. This example is one of the many, many reasons I no longer edit on Wiki as much as used to. I was quite prolific at one time. Congrats on your career, by the by. My best wishes, always. Luigibob (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't entirely blame him, but the images were clearly all blanked on a Wiki-lawyer/Gotcha mentality that we see often with image uploads. I answered on the talk page and already have thought of a way to fix this. -OberRanks (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

File:NavyAircrew - original.jpg listed for deletion

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Glad to see you're still alive!

I thought you guys had all been wiped out. (I always suspected Kevin had a way of overestimating himself.) HuskyHuskie (talk) 19:41, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, now I am just plain confused. (Maybe Kevin is the badass of the galaxy, after all.) HuskyHuskie (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I was very sad when John Anderson passed away. He was a brilliant actor, even though he did kill all Husnock...everywhere... -OberRanks (talk) 22:50, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

You know, as many times as I've seen The Odyssey of Flight 33, (too many, way too many), I never made the connection. And the Old Man in the Cave? Yeah, he was a great one. Thanks for the insight. HuskyHuskie (talk) 01:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:OldEichmann.jpg

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General of the Army - modern use deleted information

Hello, I restored the deleted information in the General of the Army (United States) modern use section, and added cites/sources, including for the Colin Powell assertion. Thanks. Infoman99 (talk) 08:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

If the sources are legit, there shouldn't be a problem. -OberRanks (talk) 17:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Reinhard Heydrich

I added MiszaBot I but I have not been able to get the archive box running correctly with the old archives located therein. Can you look into it when you get a chance? Kierzek (talk) 02:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Those bots have always been very confusing; I'll see what I can figure out! -OberRanks (talk) 15:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

DD Form 214

Thanks for the reverts on 214. I think IP user is SPA, connected with the spam link. I've tried to offer WP guidance on his/her talk page, but we will see. In the meantime, if we can tag team on reverting the improper revisions, we can keep this very short article clean. --S. Rich (talk) 03:30, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, anytime there is an addition to that article about hiring people to go to NPRC to get 214s I get very suspicious. I think it is a ploy to generate business for those research companies who, BTW, I have very little respect for, for a variety of reasons. -OberRanks (talk) 15:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Spelling of camp

This isn't a big deal, but I've noticed that the spelling of Chelmno extermination camp is not correct, as it should have the Polish Ł in its name like this: Chełmno. However, for some reason, I am not allowed to move the page to this new title because Wikipedia claims that a page with that name already exists. This doesn't make sense. For instance, the article on Bełżec extermination camp is spelled with the Polish alphabet. Any idea how to solve this?Hoops gza (talk) 12:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that has something to do with the naming rules on Wikipedia. There's been some mighty battles about that in the past. Most often with spelling names containing foreign characters like Ü and β. I would recommend the talk page of the article and start a section called "Naming of article" and see what you get. A similar template can be found on Rudolf Höss if you're looking for an example. -OberRanks (talk) 13:19, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Not to be pedantic, but I think you mean the German character ß. What you put was the Greek letter beta. It makes sense that there's issues with ß since it is a character strictly limited to one language (German). The Ł slash through the L, however, is a character in about ten different languages, so I'd be very surprised if there are issues with incorporating it into English Wikipedia articles. Other English articles, such as those on Polish people, use the Polish alphabet. Thanks for the recommendation.Hoops gza (talk) 14:04, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

The fact that I got "β" to appear at all on my browser is good enough for me! -OberRanks (talk) 14:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Military orders/chain of command

I forget how the military chain of command work in terms of orders. Do orders of a certain magnitude have to be written? Or can they always be given verbally? Does it vary from nation to nation? Some of the verbal orders given by people like Hitler got me thinking about this.Hoops gza (talk) 20:42, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

That answer would be rather lengthy. Might want to visit one of the Wikipedia discussion boards, like the Military History Project talk page, and get opinions from those who would have the time to write up a good answer. -OberRanks (talk) 18:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

General of the Army disputed tag

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Buchenwald SS Corpses photo

OberRanks, I would like your input as to whether the photo in question should be added to the Schutzstaffel article. I think not under WP:UNDUE. See the Talk:Schutzstaffel page. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Heinrich Himmler

Hi OberRanks, you did not respond to my question about Rudolf Vrba's observations of Himmler. Did Vrba ever publish those observations? If so, it should be included in the article. By the way, I have watched Vrba's description of life at Auschwitz from Shoah (film). Astounding.Hoops gza (talk) 19:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

He wrote an autobiography about his time in Auschwitz, called I Cannot Forgive. The thing that I remember most was a story about a fellow prisoner being beaten to death by the SS because he was missing a button on his shirt on the day of Himmler's visit. -OberRanks (talk) 19:45, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you kindly.Hoops gza (talk) 02:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Vorbunker

OberRanks, I just wrote my first article. I decided after well over 4,000+ edits to give it a try. When you get a chance I would ask that you review it for me. Thanks, Cheers- Kierzek (talk) 03:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

That looks like a great article. I've never been to Berlin, but have also considered it a tragedy to history that one cannot go down inside the bunkers. The Soviets sealed them up and collapsed them, from what I've read. -OberRanks (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Kierzek (talk) 14:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

G-SS

So where are we now as to this matter?? You can answer on my talk page, if you wish. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 14:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Update? Kierzek (talk) 16:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I would say "no consensus" :-) -OberRanks (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Tracey Thurman

The article Tracey Thurman has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

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Renaming SS officer Categories in the Wikipedia

I have begun dividing the Categories of "SS Generals", "SS officers", and "SS non-commissioned officers" into Categories of the specific rank, such as "SS Oberscharführers". The goal is to have the specific rank Category on each SS person's article instead of these more general Categories of Generals, Officers, NCOs. Do you think that this is a change for the better? I can see one drawback in that the titles of the ranks are not English and many people reading them might not know what an Oberscharführer is, although if they click on the category they will be able to see that the Category "SS Oberscharführers" falls under the Category "SS non-commissioned officers", and so on.Hoops gza (talk) 06:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

That's probably not a good idea since no other military rank grouping splits apart the articles by specific rank, but rather groups of ranks (officers, generals, etc). Wikipedia also has some pretty strict rules about making new categories. I am by no means an expert on categories, probably should visit one of the notice boards and propose this idea before trying to implement it. -OberRanks (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I would have to agree to it should be left as it is; in the general Categories of ranks for readers to review. They give enough info. as to the persons holding such rank and the military equivalents; and individual articles are linked to the pages as to each given rank already. Kierzek (talk) 00:08, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

(Nazi) renames

I believe you might have an interest in this discussion. Go to WT:GER if you care to comment. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

This is all in good faith, but someone needs to reign this user in. We are moving into very controversial page moves accompanied by major article changes without consensus. There is also the recent move to create new categories which could cause major article problems. No disrespect to the originator, since like I said this all appears to be in good faith and not for the purposes of disruption. -OberRanks (talk) 04:15, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi I tried to redirect Bruno Tesch (Nazi) back to Bruno Tesch (chemist) and now there is Bruno Tesch absolutely nothing because I obviously don't know what I'm doing, if you know how to rectify it I would appreciate it. Also putting "Nazi" in the heading makes the articles look like propaganda pieces. Hoops gza has done it to more than one article. 7mike5000 (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

This appears to be part of larger problem. I've suggested mentorship. -OberRanks (talk) 16:49, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Good idea, OberRanks. Kierzek (talk) 17:25, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

List of military decorations of the Third Reich

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PS: I dont need to notify the uploader unless I tag the file for deletion. Per WP:NFCC#10c you must have a rationale for every use of a file, if not the uses without a rationale must be removed. I know you do a lot with regards to uploading non-free content so you might want to add importScript('User:Δ/NFCC.js'); to Special:MyPage/common.js for two useful tools with regards to non-free files and their rationales. ΔT _{^{The only constant}} 12:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You could work with us instead of gutting the article. The rationale is pretty simple: display decoration in listing of military awards. I'll tag all the images as such as restore the article. -OberRanks (talk) 15:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Speer

Hi, I'm the principal author of the Speer article. Can you enlighten me on the career summary thingy? Is this something which is standard for Nazi Party member articles? All the best,--Wehwalt (talk) 14:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm working on it right now - you'll be impressed! -OberRanks (talk) 14:32, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I hope so :) This was my first really good FA and I'm protective of my baby!--Wehwalt (talk) 14:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

That's swell, but those facts which are not in the article (his Party number is) need to be sourced. It also strikes me that this might be better as a text box, rather than a subsection.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I came across a summary of his many political positions and ranks in the Nuremberg Trial Transcripts. When you put it all together, it makes a nice looking "career summary" dossier. I finished the updates for now - later today or tomorrow I'll add info about his much discussed possible membership in the SS (he was a member, but never higher than a private).

Here's the source for all the info:

Nuremberg Trial Transcripts, One Hundred and Sixtieth Day (Friday, 21st June, 1946), Part 1 of 12 (Testimony and Examination of Albert Speer)

Best! -OberRanks (talk) 14:44, 11 June 2011 (UTC) BTW - We could also make this into its own article, maybe "Political career of Albert Speer". That actually might not be a bad idea at all. -OberRanks (talk) 14:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you have the publication details and page numbers? Just page numbers as a group, if they are all from the same source. Publisher, date of publication, doubt there'd be a ISBN number. I would tread carefully on the SS thing, I think most historians accept that he wasn't an SS member though Himmler tried to make him one. Speer refused to fill out the paperwork, not wanting to come under Himmler's authority, as I recall. I'd have to review my sources for the specifics. Yes, I think a revisit to Speer would be good, of course there is a lot of detail that couldn't be used for a summary-style biographical article that could be for a more limited article like that.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the transcripts are divided by volumes - not sure if they have page numbers - I'll check. Feel free to tweak/move/change as you see fit. The info box idea sounded pretty good. Regarding SS, I will definitely get sources for that before anything goes into the article. -OberRanks (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Photo Adjustments

I would appreciate your help with dealing with some of the edits of User:DIREKTOR. This editor has been adjusting the tone (and perhaps other photographic features) of some of the photographs on Wikipedia, such as the main photos for Hitler and Himmler. For some reason I am unable to revert these edits, perhaps because they are part of the Commons? I am not sure why the editor would make these edits, but as far as I'm concerned it is tampering with originals. The originals were just fine, and the changing of tone distorts the original prints that we have and is akin to revising history. Here are the photos I'm referring to, I do not see it having been done to any other prominent Nazis: File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-S33882, Adolf Hitler retouched.jpg File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-S72707, Heinrich Himmler.jpg -Hoops gza (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid I know very little regarding images at Commons. Don't even have a working account over there. -OberRanks (talk) 20:03, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Recent Gestapo Müller edit

A recent edit to "Gestapo Müller's" page seems suspect. I checked and the edit (below) comes from a book that is one of those fringe (Bormann lived and built an empire) type books.

Edit: In 1941, one of Müller's agents within the MI-6, Charles Howard Ellis, learned of the Allies' SIGSALY system while in New York City, and dispatched a report of it to Berlin via Mexico City and Buenos Aires. The Deutsch Reichspost in collaboration with Philips constructed a deciphering installation near The Hague, and were soon capturing the coded messages sent through the ether between U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt and Prime Minister Winston Churchill. The Allies wouldn't learn of the breach until 1944 when the installation was then destroyed. "Martin Bormann, Nazi in exile". Paul Manning. Stuart, 1981. ISBN 0818403098, 9780818403095. p. 76-78.

I had read before about the A-3 system, scrambling equipment used by England and the US that the Germans intercepted calls on; the intercept station being built just north of den Haag. But that is different from the quoted book text of the recent edit listed above. What do you know about this matter and should the added quote above be removed due to the fact it is from a fringe book per: WP:FRINGE and WP:VERIFY. Kierzek (talk) 12:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I would treat that statement with heavy suspicion. Several mainstream sources indicate that by 1942, the German Overseas Intelligence System had been completely infiltrated and destroyed. There was also never a serious German intelligence presence in the United States - any person even remotely suspected of being a German spy was placed under immediate surveillance by the FBI and arrested at the slightest excuse. I remember all this very clearly since I was at a lecture one time where we discussed how implausible "The Eagle Has Landed" was. We also talked about wild theories such as German spies in Chicago, Lucky Luciano was really an FBI agent, and Harry Hopkins was in the SD. So, I don't think the info you found is correct and agree it borders on fringe research. -OberRanks (talk) 15:51, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, the quoted suspect addition (above) by another user has been reverted. I mentioned the reasons on the talk page. Kierzek (talk) 16:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Descendants of Major Nazis

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Yeah...that's not an attack page. Purely for academic interest in living descendants of former Nazis. -OberRanks (talk) 22:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Restored it, didn't realize it was blanked in the process of restoring the material. -OberRanks (talk) 22:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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If you want to build such a confrontational article then you're going to need to verify everying with relaible sources. Wikipedia articles are not the space for such constructions. Please use your own name space. If you click on user:OberRanks/new_article then you'll be able to create the article there in your own user space. When it is perfect, I mean even the full-stops are references (little exasperation for comedy effect) then you can thing about copy-and-pasting it over to the front end. — Fly by Night (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

A lot of that material is already on Wikipedia. Several of the people even have their own articles. I'll stop editing for now, to see if the speedy delete passes, but that is clearly not an attack page. -OberRanks (talk) 23:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit the link I gave above: user:OberRanks/new_article. That's in your own space. There wasn't a single reference so it couldn't stay. Work on the article in your own space and then move it. It's not that I don't want you to make articles; I just don't want Wikipedia being sued. Please remember that if you are simply resynthesising existing content then that page will get deleted too. If you get stuck then drop me a line. — Fly by Night (talk) 23:12, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Cmdr

I'm concerned that the Star Trek game link on your userpage falls within the realm of advertising. Would you please consider removing this?--v/r - TP 23:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Its non-profit and is mentioned no where else on any article that I know about. I make no money off of that site. -OberRanks (talk) 23:45, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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