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Hi Kyle, no worries. I went ahead and cited my source and changed the syntax to fit the verbiage used by both the source & Spears herself. Please let me know if you have any more suggestions! Notyourashta (talk) 03:10, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Free Britney movement. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. KyleJoan^talk 03:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commentary was not added, rather I quoted verbatim from the article and from Spears's statements. She directly said that "she did not support" with a "hashtag on a public platform." Here, the hashtag clearly refers to the #FreeBritney movement as it is the name of the online movement. Therefore, Jamie Lynn Spears, by her own admission, did not publicly support the hashtag "FreeBritney." Notyourashta (talk) 03:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Lynn said that while she didn't support [Britney Spears] the way the public would like me to with a hashtag, she did so privately. You wrote she did not use the hashtag, therefore, she did not support the movement. These denote very different meanings, and your inclusion is a clear violation of the policy above. Please familiarize yourself with it. Cheers! KyleJoan^talk 03:27, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The hashtag is by all accounts the movement as it is not only the title of the movement, it represents and encapsulates the movement. However, for clarity, I have restored only the source and the quote. Notyourashta (talk) 03:30, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Again, that's your personal analysis, which does not belong in any article. You personally believe that no hashtag = no support, correct? Imagine me personally believing no hashtag = opposition and writing that Jamie Lynn opposed the movement because she did not publicly use the hashtag. I hope you read and fully comprehend the policy and understand why that's unacceptable. KyleJoan^talk 03:43, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the necessity of pertaining to policy, the difference is, I did not say she "opposed" the movement/hashtag as you have rephrase it here, I simply said she did not publicly support it (movement/hashtag). Not supporting publicly ≠ opposition, they are not the same sentences, and not supporting publicly is directly reflective of what she said. Now that I have reiterated the initial verbiage I used, for optimal understanding, I did use only the qquote, essentially including the same information but within the realm of her exact word choice. I would hardly say that the public movement being equivalent to and represented by the public hashtag is an "analysis," this Wikipedia page reflects that association plainly and evidently. That being said, with the contention between the hashtag of the movement and the movement; what's important is that the information is included, the public support (or lack thereof) of Britney's family and those involved in the conservatorship is of immense relevancy. Notyourashta (talk) 04:00, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What matters is that the short quote adheres to the policy. I'm not interested in dissecting your response and continuing the discussion, but just know that neutral point of view could be an issue that comes up again in the future. KyleJoan^talk 04:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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