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Somali people

(See also: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Norwegianman -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]
Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Somali people. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Somali people, you will be blocked from editing. (The article cited the Canadian census. From where does the petition obtain its figure?) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Canadian census is a reliable source. The Star does not provide a source for the estimate, but I have included another footnote that mentions this number. Please review Wikipedia's official policy regarding attribution (which states: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is whether material is attributable to a reliable published source, not whether we think it is true"). I am not Somali, but if I were, basing an article upon my own experience would be original research, which is not allowed. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The UK figure is from an earlier version of the article. If you can cite a source for your figure then please do so. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the UK number because the BBC were quoting the UK 2001 census figures. Norwegianman, I find it interesting that the UK census can get the right figures but Canada census got the wrong figures. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Norwegianman, I am perfectly willing to work with you, but please be civil. Comments like "Your ignorant" will lead to you being blocked. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Somali people and Canada

In response to your comments to Gyrofrog. The Canadian census is not taken "...mostly from tax paying citizens and persons who fill out census papers every 4 years..." as you said but is done every 5 years and includes every single person in the country as per here. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Enough

Read WIkipedia:No personal attacks and by the way I'm in Canada and I agree with the 2001 census figures. The newspaper report is a guess and may or may not be correct. I was the one (NOT Gyrofrog) who put both the Canada and UK census figures in the article. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make things clear: there are two people currently leaving you messages. I (User:Gyrofrog) am one of them and User:CambridgeBayWeather is the other. The uncited figures were already in the article, I did not put them there, while CambridgeBayWeather provided sources for some of the figures. You are correct that the uncited figures require attribution but I want to make clear that I did not put them there in the first place. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://caafi.tripod.com/culture1.html does not cite its figures, while the other two websites are pushing specific agendas and not reliable sources. By the way, when you leave messages on a talk page, please sign your posts by typing four tilde characters (~~~~). Thanks. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right now I am trying to locate the US figures without using the Joshua Project figure of 24,000 while the article has 150,000. However, the US census data is even harder to search than the Canadian data and so far I can't seem to find a breakdown by country of origin. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 2000 USA census (if I'm reading this correctly) says 35,760. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks correct and I updated the Somali people. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:14, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you actually looked at that user's contributions, you'd see that it is highly unlikely he works for the Hargeisa mayor. And once again, please sign your posts (~~~~) when you leave messages on my talk page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]