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Image:Baneasa.runway.750pix.jpg

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The image you uploaded, Image:Baneasa.runway.750pix.jpg, has no no source information. The image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, ie in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. Unless the copyright status is provided, the image will be marked for deletion on 25 November 2005.

--Orioane 17:16, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No source

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User:Superm401/Template:Upload--Orioane 22:48, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Orioane! I'm sorry that did not specified the source of my information because I'm a new user but I don't know how to specify it.Specify means to write from where I got the image I think.I got it from the website www.airliners.net. I hope that you gonne see my message because I don't know how to reply you on your user page.
Hi, first of all, you have to read the pages about Copyright, Image use policy and the copyright tags to make an ideea about the copyright policy at Wikipedia. If you made the pictures, you should say that and you can choose a tag like {{PD}} - Public Domain or {{GFDL}} -GNU Free Documentation License or {{CopyrightedFreeUse-User}}. If you took the image from a site, you should see the policy at that site, otherwise said, under which circumstances they allow the usage of their images. In the case of www.airliners.net I doubt that they allow you to use their photographs on other sites because each one is tag as being copyrighted.
Try and read those links and then tell me your impression, that's no hurry, the images will remin at least one week. You can write me messages here, because I'll answer here, it's no problem. Usualy, you should also sign your comments on talk pages (like this one) using four tildes like this ~~~~. Waiting for an answer!!!! --Orioane 23:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Salut, Have you had time to look over those pictures??? Anywais, I've checked the www.airliners.net site and they should be deleted because all the pictures acre copyrighted and they do not allow anyone to use them on websites. --Orioane 16:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians

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Please cite your sources. Don't just add numbers to an article unless you can back them up. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:48, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My sources are from what was written there before, if you have a good memory, that means United States 367,000-1,200,000 and Canada 131,000-400,000.Are you happy now?After this I bet that you gonna tell that's not true,right? NorbertArthur 3 December 2005

I belive it is right to have 1,200,000 in USA. Bonaparte talk & contribs 15:52, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander for Admin

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Alexander_007 ,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#Alexander_007 . I've nominated User:Alexander_007 as admin. Let's vote for him! -- Bonaparte talk & contribs 16:12, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Salut, du-te si voteaza. Avem nevoie de el. -- Bonaparte talk & contribs 16:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Mersi ca ai dat revert. Du-te si voteaza. Spune-mi daca nu stii cum. -- Bonaparte talk & contribs 18:53, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nu, nu shtiu cum.Potzi te rog sa imi explici? NorbertArthur

Editezi pagina si iti treci numele in dreptul optiunii tale. Pacat ca acum nu se mai poate din moment ce nu a acceptat candidatura. Ar fi fost bine sa avem un Administrator. Oricum vino si te inscrie la forum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Romanian_Wikipedian%27s_notice_board

Ca sa iti scrii automat data si numele apesi pe "Your signature with timestamp". -- Bonaparte talk 19:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Images for deletion

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All these images have copyright problems

An image that you uploaded, Image:Csa.a310-304.yr-yac.750pix.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.
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--Orioane 19:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Our forum

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Welcome to the Romanian Wikipedia notice board! This page is a portal for all Romanian-related topics and a place for Romanian editors to gather and socialize and debate. Discussions are encouraged, in both English and Romanian. Post any inquiry under their relevant cathegory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Romanian_Wikipedian%27s_notice_board

-- Bonaparte talk 19:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on User:Antidote

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Hello, I believe this person was responsible for mass voting on Romanians, Catholic, Jewish and Serbs articles and numerous other disruptions including arbitrarily changing population numbers and removing people from lists dating back to March, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote and Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote/Contribution_table and Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote/User_comments. I would appreciate if you could endorse the request for comment at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote#Other_users_who_endorse_this_summary, Regards,-- Bonaparte talk 20:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, do not think that me I'm responsssible for that!

Stiu. :) Este impotriva lui nu a ta. Asa ca fa bine si participa acolo si semneaza si tu impotriva lui.El este cel care a pus date false acolo. -- Bonaparte talk 16:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Imagine

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Mai Arhtur, nu intelegi ca nu ai voie sa adaugi pe Wikipedia poze de pe www.airliners.net?? Uite daca nu ai gasit pana acum, link-ul care spune cum poti sa folosesti pozele de pe pagina lor: http://www.airliners.net/usephotos/. Ca sa fiu mai exact, iata paragraful care spune ca NU POTI SA FOLOSESI FOTOGRAFIILE LOR PE SITE-URI:

You may not use these photos on any web page, commercial or non-commercial, for profit or non-profit, without written permission from the photographer.

Este scris, chiar la inceput, cu litere bolduite ca sa fie usor vizibil. Daca faci tu insuti fotografiile nu este nici o problema sa le adaugi pe Wikipedia, dar altfel, NU AI VOIE SA ADAUGI FOTOGRAFII DE PE ALTE SITE-URI DECAT IN ANUMITE CONDITII. Ti-am scris mai sus link-urile cu paginile unde trebuie sa te uiti sa vezi care sunt conditiile.

Vad ca ai mai adaugat inca o fotografie, [:Image:Tarom.b707-321c.yr-abm.750pix.jpg] care este exact fotografia aceasta: http://images.airliners.net/photos/photos/5/7/0/970075.jpg O sa o propun si pe aceasta pentru a fi steara. Vad ca ai contributii foarte solide in ceea ce priveste domeniul aviatiei, si este foarte bine, dar te rog, fii mai atent la uploadat fotografii. Nu vreau sa te speriu, incerc sa te ajut, deoarece exista utilizatori care nu sunt la fel de toleranti.

Multumesc pentru intelegere. --Mihai -talk 20:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Tarom.b707-321c.yr-abm.750pix.jpg has been listed for deletion

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Forum

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hai si tu la forum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Romanian_Wikipedian%27s_notice_board

-- Bonaparte talk 19:35, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mersi! De acum cand ai nevoie de ajutor, pui un paragraf acolo si noi vedem. -- Bonaparte talk 19:40, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Bravo ai fost tare. apropos nu sunt din basarabia :) -- Bonaparte talk 21:04, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dishonest Editing

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So first you changed Romania. Then when you got shut down you changed List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita to back up up your claims and change Romania back here and here. I like Romania too, but please stick to the facts and don't make things up. Tbjablin 23:42, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Listen, do you really think that Romania is so poor???Wel I'm telling you that is not how you think because I don't that for example Bostwana, a very poor African country has the GPD/capita higher than Romania's, right?

I don't have an opinion one way or the other, but the CIA says $7,700. If you have some other number from an authoritative source. I would be happy to look at it. Tbjablin 02:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think that the distribution of wealth in Romania may be more even than in Botswana. Tbjablin 02:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I putted 10,025 $ becuase is that the number that was before you change it, ok? So do not think that is me who invented that! NorbertArthur 19 December 2005

Illegal A310 pic image:tarom.a310.750pix.jpg

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Norbert, why do you waste your time uploading illegal pictures! I've just noticed "your" pic on the Tarom article of the Tarom A310. You have told serious lies about that pic. First, you say it was taken by yourself. No, it was taken by Jussi Keffunen. Secondly, you say it was taken in September 2005. No, look at Airliners.net which shows it was taken on September 19th 2003. Thirdly, it's not OK to use a.net pics as I think you've been told already. I'd love to know why you do these silly things? The pic has been removed (I've just noticed the extensive list of copyright violations above)- Adrian Pingstone 15:36, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

TAROM stuff

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Mr. Arthur Norbert,

Please do not put false info in the TAROM fleet and destinations sections. Check any aviation website and you will see:

The 2 A310's are stored at OTP: they are not used.

There are only 5 737-300's at TAROM, NOT 11!: registrations don't lie: YR-BGA, BGB, BGC, BGD, BGE

There are only 4 737-700's at TAROM, NOT 5!: registrations don't lie: YR-BGF, BGG, BGH, BGI

TAROM does not operate to Montreal, and you can't prove otherwise, as it's not true: apparently you used a false picture to try! It does not operate to Beijing, Bangkok, New York, Newark, Chicago, Charleroi, Strasbourg, Helsinki, Dublin, Barcelona, Malaga, Heraklion and possibly others on your list.

You are an user on forum.fly-ra.com, ask anyone there the TAROM fleet and their destinations if you don't believe me.

Thankyou, a worried wikipedia user.

Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote and User:Zordrac/Poetlister

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I note that you are involved in the above RfC. Please see my sub page for evidence of the entirety of the dispute and related issues. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 12:51, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ar trebui sa o ajutam pe Poetlister. A fost blocata pe nedrept. -- Bonaparte talk 08:39, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tarom A310 pic

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Thanks for your nice apology on my talk page, all is forgiven, Best Wishes, - Adrian Pingstone 17:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

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Your last edit at thearticle about Romania is a clear vandalism [1]

Please stop. --Mihai -talk 09:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An odd question

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Unless NorbertArthur is just a nick, could it be that you are Saş or otherwise German from Romania? I visited Timişoara and the rest of the Banat in 2003 as part of a group of Banater Schwaben (although I am born and have lived most of my life in the US). Adam Mathias 02:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that's funny! My dad's parents are Wojwodina Schwaben (i.e., now Serbia, I would say Banater Schwaben but actually it's the Batschka for us), so my German is also weak (and my Schwowsche even weaker!), but it's still good enough to get around, sometimes without anybody noticing that I'm not German (I lived in Berlin a bit when I was a kid).  ;). So why'd your parents move to Romania? - Adam Mathias 03:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely not a Serbian! Though the Schwaben had been living there for centuries, at least the women (who didn't leave the villages as much) only knew Schwäbisch (or if you wanna call it German then German). There is no way they would ever call themselves Serbs because it was more or less Serbs who expelled them (as punishment for the crime of being Germans). As for me, I usually call myself German-American, because my mom's from the USA (new orleans), and my dad's more or less German, and I also lived there a bit and know the country pretty well. But as a Romanian with Austrian parents living in Canada, you know what a pain in the arsch these labels can be for people who don't have simple backgrounds ;). For instance, the term "American" is pretty stupid the way it's usually applied around here. Though that's a lot more obvious for you all on the outside looking in, try telling it to the folks here ;). - Adam Mathias 22:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Oi adam mathias, leave norbert arthur alone. he is not german, he is romanian like me. Go back to the german article.

US Airways destinations

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Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to US Airways destinations. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. RingMaruf 22:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Tarom flights

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This is my proof, per request of NorbertArthur.

Bangkok: Check the website of Bangkok International Airport Chicago: Check the website of Chicago O'Hare International Airport New York: Check the website of New York JFK International Airport

Besides, check also the timetables of TAROM to be found in TAROM website.

Now, even though I haven't flown with TAROM, I use reliable sources, such as the ones above. How about you? Elektrik Blue 82 03:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Airlines, MOthe fucker

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Hello NorbertArthur, thank you for your very uncivilized reply. If you look at the link you gave as proof, that same document said that the decision for some countries, including Romania, was deferred. In other words, put off, delayed. Now that is no sufficient reason to list US Airways as serving OTP. They don't even have a date for the start of operations! Now, next time, I advise you not to use blunt words on my discussion page, I appreciate it. I also appreciate it if you sign your name when you comment. Stand up for what you say. Elektrik Blue 82 23:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Languages in the United States

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Please note that the information from Census 2000, the source listed for immigrant languages in the US, do not list Romanian in the top 20 languages. Your estimate might be correct, but is not official according to the Census bureau. DHN 06:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians

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Arthur, please stop messing around with the Romanians article Try doing something better, Wikipedia is large enough. Mihai -talk 22:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Montréal-Mirabel International Airport

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I see that you have put back the second runway which I assume is based on this. Of course NavCanada says that only the one runway 06/24 is in use. I've already been in email contact with them over other stuff and so I've emailed them again. If they say they are still using both runways I'll adjust the artticle to say that NavCanada does not list the 2nd runway, but I'll leave it in the box. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cluj-Napoca Airport

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NorbertArthur, can't you see that it is the policy in WikiProject Airlines/Airports that codeshares are not listed in the article? Check the airport website yourself, LH, OS, MA, and AZ are not listed as airlines that use CLJ.

By the way, someone with an IP address of 67.71.188.74 blanked my personal page. Good thing someone else reverted it back. I checked where the IP address is located, and it gave me Montreal, Canada. That doesn't happen to be you, does it? Elektrik Blue 82 04:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What I am saying is that if a route is serviced by an airline, list the airline that is actually servicing it! So yes, Korean Air should be listed, but you should not list CSA as flying PRG-ICN. Listing that, like what you are doing, is redundant. And next time, avoid personal attacks ok? I do think logically. That's why I try to minimize redundance. Elektrik Blue 82 04:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to Harstad and Malaga? Show me that they actually have a timetable that they fly there, not just a picture that their aircraft had been there? If the Romanian leader of the country decides he would go to Malaga and charter a Tarom aircraft, would you say that Tarom includes that destination as their "seasonal" destination? Elektrik Blue 82 04:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I added them, listing them under Tarom. What I do not agree is listing it under OS, LH, and AZ. It makes it seem like actual aircraft from OS, LH, and AZ fly to CLJ, when in actuality they only affix their flight numbers on RO flights. Elektrik Blue 82 05:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I checked the airport website, and added the additional destinations that Tarom, Carpatair, and Clubair fly from CLJ. Elektrik Blue 82 05:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On the original link you gave me, select (Cluj-Napoca) as your departure. Then all the cities that are connected to CLJ will appear on the "Arrivals" menu. Pick any city and you can actually see the schedule. One thing it does not show is the domestic flights, for example, flights to Timisoara by Carpatair is not shown. Elektrik Blue 82 05:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Which menu are you talking about? In here, all the cities that I can pick as departure cities are Cluj, Ancona, Bergamo, Bologna, Bucharest, Budapest, Dusseldorf, Florence, Frankfurt, Milan, Munich, Rome, Stuttgart, Turin, Treviso, Verona, and Vienna. I don't see Constanta. Elektrik Blue 82 05:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My guess is that they haven't fixed a bug in their website. As I understand it, it is supposed to be a flight schedule. Say, for example, I pick Lviv and Ancona. Then it should give me a flight schedule of Carpatair flights (with connecting flights at Timisoara I assume, as it is their hub) from Lviv to Ancona. But the website just doesn't work. If you want to know which destinations are served by airlines from CLJ, then I guess the best source of info is the airport website. Elektrik Blue 82 05:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really have an opinion about what a "secondary hub" is or not. All I care about is destinations, LOL. It's up to you. I'll call it a day now, I got class tomorrow. I do hope you're not mad with me now, I guess I wasn't clear as to why I keep reverting your edits. I just don't want the article to be misleading, making people think things that aren't really true in a sense. G'nite. Elektrik Blue 82 05:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tarom Cargo

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Norbert, I found it here. You have to click on every country to find the address. The site does not give you the exact airport name, but if you know where airports are located, then you can figure that out. Click USA for example. It gives you an address on Jamaica, NY. JFK Airport happens to be in Jamaica, NY. So I figured they service JFK and not EWR. But then, that still does not guarantee that they fly there. They may well be using other airlines' equipment and letting the other airline handle their cargo. I have to admit I am not very sure about this. Elektrik Blue 82 03:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

After checking the site you gave me, I also remembered the case of Manila International Airport. When I was still living in Manila, I would drive past the cargo terminal, and see signs for operations of SAS Cargo, VARIG cargo, and other airlines that otherwise don't operate in the airport. When I say not operate, their aircraft do not fly to the city. So I am thinking that they let other airlines handle their cargo operations for them, but they still maintain a distinct office. If that is the case, then I would say it would be misleading to list those locations as destinations, when in actuality they do not go there. What do you think? Elektrik Blue 82 13:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there! Could you please use the Show preview & Show changes buttons when making edits? Look at the Tarom article: you've made 13 (!) edits, for changing only relatively few things: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tarom&diff=42934399&oldid=42044361 Moreover, you should now that the Otopeni International Airport has been renamed to Henri Coandă International Airport (the first page redirects to the second)! --Vlad 23:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Salut. Am vazut ca esti si tu din Montreal ;) Vroiam sa te intreb, unde ai gasit datele cu 247.000 de vorbitori de limba romana si 300.000 de canadieni nascuti in romania. M-am uitat in recensamant dar acolo apar doar 60.000 de romanofoni si 130.000 de etnici romani. Constantzeanu 05:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Da, din montreal sunt ;) Invat la mcgill - anul 3 political science. Cu privire la cei 300.000 de canadieni nascuti in romania, personal mie i-mi pare ca numarul e exagerat. iar in greater montreal area nici vorba de 100.000 de romani. Pai GMA are cam 3.5 mil. deci inseamna ca noi am fi cam 3% din populatie? Compara asta cu 68% francezi, 14% englezi, 18% alofoni. Deci ar insemna ca numai noi am fi 1/6 din alofoni? Si cum minoritatile in general sunt pe insula (care are numai 1.8 mil), ar insemna deci ca am fi mai mult de 5% din populatia insulei. Doar ca o comparatie, englezii sunt mai putini de 20% din populatia insulei => ca noi am fi numai de 4 ori mai putini ca englezii. Eu zic ca mai bine lasam rezultatele de la recensamant. Constantzeanu 06:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Da, e ok la mcgill. Tu ce faci in mtl - studiezi ori lucrezi? Constantzeanu 20:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In aviatie la mirabel, iti recunosc aia cei 2 ani facuti in romania? Eu is in canada de 10 ani dar in montreal numai de 6. de aia am si mers la universitate englezeasca ca scoala primara si liceul l-am facut in engleza.Constantzeanu 05:53, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Windjet

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Hey Norbert. I saw the company website, and yep, they fly to OTP from Forli. I fixed the wikilink, and I also removed the source URLs that you attached after the lists. I hope you don't mind, but would you put the source info on the discussion page instead whenever there is a new route to be started? It is one thing to be verifiable, it is another to standardize the page. Hope you're having a great day in Montreal. Elektrik Blue 82 21:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I've fixed the Sibiu page. I hope you don't mind me removing the domestic and international distinctions between the TAROM cities. Since there are only four cities listed, I didn't think it would be significant. But if we are talking say LH's destinations on FRA, then an international and domestic distinction is good. Thanks for the well-wish, but as it turns out, I have the flu, so I am stuck here at home. Not too great a way to spend Spring Break eh? Elektrik Blue 82 21:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you get your news?

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Norbert, you gotta tell me this one. Where do you get updated on your aviation news? How did you know about that A310 deal (which I think is great. An equipment in use is better than an equipment left to dust)? Elektrik Blue 82 01:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kristiansund and TAROM

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I've looked at other pictures in other pages as well. And it is evident that it is a charter. Some headers of the pics say so. And the flight numbers are unusually high as well, (ex: RO 6437, etc). However, I think it is not good to list Kristiansund as a charter destination, because, due to the nature of charters, any city in the world can be a charter destination. If one group hires TAROM to fly to Johannesburg, no matter how far it is, with the right payment, it will go there. Do you see what I mean? If you list one city as a "charter destination", then pretty much every city can be a charter destination. Elektrik Blue 82 21:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good question. No, I haven't been to Romania yet. After reading Dracula, somehow, it made me want to go and explore Transylvania. But two things hinder me: time and money. :) I haven't travelled a lot, but I definitely have an interest (that's why I am interested in aviation and air travel). If you check my personal page, then those are the only places I have been to. By the way, do you have Yahoo! Messenger? So that we won't be using each other's pages as message boards/chatrooms? Elektrik Blue 82 22:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

salut. ma scuzi ca raspund asa greu dar de la o vreme nu prea am mai venit pe wikipedia. din cate stiu eu primarul din roxboro era foarte popular inainte de mergers. stiu ca un vecin de-al meu joaca sah cu el si mi-a zis ca dupa mergers s-a retras din politica - era batran. dar l-am pus acolo pentru ca mie i-mi pare ca este un canadian-roman important. numai bine Constantzeanu 01:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Romanians in Japan

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Hi. Unfortunately I have no official numbers about Romanians living in Japan. I should have asked at the Romanian Embassy in Tokyo when I went there a couple weeks ago, but even then it wouldn't count as verifiable information. The Embassy's website is down these days and anyway I don't remember having seen such data there when it was working. There seems to exist an association called the "Romanian Community in Japan", established in 1999, but I was unable to find out if they have a website. I'm not sure where else to look for info. If I ever get to find something I'll let you know. — AdiJapan ☎ 07:39, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aircraft image

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Look, the images you proposed for deletion are images on my talk page, right? So you don't have any rights to edite My page, understood??? A user page doens't make part of any article, so you' will not delete those image, right? I can put there what I want, it belongs to me !!! NorbertArthur 29 March 2006

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Romanians

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Although you keep claiming there are 400,000 Romanians in Canada, you appear to have made that figure up, as all sources (like the 2001 census) contradict that. In addition, you appear to be inflating the numbers of Romanians in other places, again, apparently making up figures as you go along. This is clearly against policy; please stop inserting uncited, false information into articles. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The census gives exact numbers, and having one Romanian grandparent doesn't make you Romanian, so we just report what the census says. Do you have a reliable source for that 400,000 number? If not, it can't go in. You've been inflating actual sourced numbers with random estimates of your own for a long time now, e.g. [2]. Please stop, it's starting to look like vandalism. Jayjg (talk) 21:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians

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Hi Arthur, you seem to have violated the three-revert rule at Romanians. This says that we're not allowed to revert another editor's work, in whole or in part, more than three times in 24 hours. Even if the figures you're changing each time are different, these still count as reverts. I'm leaving this warning instead of blocking you in case you're not aware of the rule, but please note that if you revert again, you're likely to be blocked for 24 hours. Also, if you're going to change figures given by Stats Canada, you'll have to provide a source of your own that is at least as good, if not better, than that source. Changing the figures without a source is disruptive and could be interpreted as vandalism if it continues. Please discuss your objections on the talk page instead. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 23:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Arthur, I don't know any of the issues here, except that if you're giving figures for people of Romanian origin in Canada, Stats Canada is the correct source to use. It doesn't matter how other ethnic groups on other pages are counted: the point is to adhere to the policies and use good sources, and if someone is doing that, you can't keep on reverting him or you'll get in trouble. Please discuss any disagreement you have on the article talk page instead. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Arthur, you've been temporarily blocked for disruption because you changed the Stats Canada figures again, and because of the personal attack you posted to a talk page. I'm very happy to lift this block if you can guarantee you won't change the Stats Canada figures again without consensus, although you're of course welcome to argue your case on the talk page. Feel free to e-mail me about this using the link on my user page. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 23:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You should read what I wrote. You weren't blocked for 3RR. You were blocked for disruption because you repeatedly removed and replaced properly sourced official figures with figures of your own, and because you ignored the warning to stop. If you continue, the next block will be longer. Please discuss your objections to the figures on the talk page, rather than removing them. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. Please do not upload pictures without specifying their copyright status/license tag. bogdan 21:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Romanians

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Salut. Eu zic că este bine, pentru consistenţă, să folosim doar cifre de la recensământ. Cred că este puţin necinstit să spui că sunt 400.000 de români în Canada când recensământul nu listează doar 131.000. La fel cum nu spunem că sunt 2 milioane de romi în România când sunt doar 600.000 conform recensământului. Adică, când numai 131.000 s-au declarat români, sau chiar parţial români, nu poţi să spui "Ei, da păi de fapt sunt 400.000." Dacă nu s-au declarat români, nu putem spune că sunt români. Cât despre chestia cu origine mixtă, eu cred că este mai acurată. Se poate spune că în Canada sunt 53.320 de români "puri" şi 78.505 de români care au şi altă origine (în general jumate români). S-ar putea, deci, lista doar "131.000", dar cred că varianta cu single-origin şi mixed-origin este mai acurată, cât timp recensământul din Canada foloseşte acest sistem. Mulţumesc, Ronline ✉ 07:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eu cred că estimările nu pot fi niciodată mai acurate decât recensământul şi din cauza aceasta nu-şi au locul, mai ales considerând că recensământul canadian nu suferă de probleme instituţionale precum falsificarea etniilor. Dacă doar 131.000 de persoane s-au declarat români, atunci de ce să zicem noi că sunt 400.000 de români? Cum putem să spunem că cei 269.000 sunt români când ei nu s-au declarat nici măcar parţial români? Parcă încercăm să le băgăm cuvinte-n gură :) Adică, dacă ei au fost liberi să aleagă o etnie, şi eu n-au ales cea română, atunci de ce se îi alocăm la etnie română. În plus, estimările întotdeauna exagerează. L-am auzit chiar pe Băsescu spunând că "cei 40 de milioane de români" şi am rămas "huh? de unde 40?"! Şi alte etnii fac la fel - de câte ori am auzit organizaţii de romi spunând că "sunt 2 milioane de romi în România" sau nemţi, că sunt "peste 80.000" sau unguri "peste 2 milioane". Când folosim aceste statistici estimate, întotdeauna pot fi controverse. Pe când recensământul într-o ţară democratică precum Canada sau chiar şi România este cea mai credibilă sursă (plus că estimările, care de multe ori sunt cu mai mult de două ori mai mari decât recensământul fac prea mare confuzie). Ronline ✉ 06:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sunt de acord ca în ţări precum Italia, Franţa şi Spania sunt mult mai mulţi români decât spun statisticile oficiale (datorită muncii la negru şi evitării cu bună ştiinţă a autorităţilor care fac recensămintele). În Spania cred câ ar fi 750.000-1.000.000 de oameni, în Italia vreo 500.000. Problema este lipsa de date verificabile, la Spanioli tot ce avem este statistica de la "Permis" şi recensământul, iar la italieni recensâmântul parţial din 2003. Care, după cum am zis, e doar parţial relevant. În schimb, în curând vom avea statistici suplimentare de la INSSE România în legătură cu munca în străinătate (şi legala şi nelegală), care poate vor mai lumina situaţia. Despre milionul din Canada şi milioanele din Statele Unite, nu ştiu ce să zic, dar mi se par cifre mult prea mari. Aşa că eu zic să mai aşteptăm până la următoarele date oficiale - adică în jur de 1 lună. --Xanthar 17:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transylvania

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Hi. I have several observations on the pictures' matter: you did not provide their copyright status, so they will be automatically deleted at a certain term (my guess is that most are copyvio); getting them in the text is not the thing to do, since they were cramming up the text and were misplaced (their size and number would make it impossible for them to illustrate a topic) - they would be more useful in articles relevant to them; the sheer bnumber of pictures the page already fad was illogical, and the result of a stupid fight between Romanians and Hungarians to get "their own" monuments in there, so that a foreigner would not get the "wrong impression that Tr. is too Romanian/Hungarian" - you can see why having a gallery was the best solution. Also, please use diacritics in articles in the future. If I'm not making sense, tell me - if I am, I'm going to switch the article back to my version. Thank you. 08:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Threats

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If you are threatening disruption, you'll be blocked again, the next time for longer. I have no interest in the article Romanians. My concern is only to revert what appears to be vandalism when you change properly sourced figures for unsourced ones. If you stop doing that, you'll have no further problems. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:14, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, please, not the dreaded Adrian Pingstone. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have no intention whatever of getting involved here. I only had an involvement a few weeks ago with getting Airliner.net copyright photos removed from the TAMRON article- Adrian Pingstone 12:03, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What I would like you to do is to go to the talk page, and argue your case there, calmly and politely. If you have a good case and good sources, you may be able to persuade the other editors. But if you don't, then your edits can't stay. I personally don't care what the figures are, and I have no interest in the subject. My only interest is to make sure there's no more disruptive editing. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Is that I did now, but why you blocked me then???????" Sorry, don't understand. SlimVirgin <sup
Arthur, there has been another complaint about you, this time for personal attacks. I truly don't want to block you again, but you're going to have to calm down and explain to people, very politely, what your objections are. Try to concentrate on the content, and not on the personalities. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for agreeing to try a different approach. Jayjg and Jmabel are both very good editors and reasonable people, but they expect everyone to edit in accordance with our policies, which say that we have to use reliable sources. I'm afraid I didn't understand your question: "you know when we wqant to specify the reliable source of our information to the figure, for example at Usa, how we proceding?" Do you mean how do you write up (cite) the source on the page, or how do you find it? SlimVirgin (talk) 00:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The best thing to do is copy whatever citation style they're already using in the article. When you edit, you'll be able to see how they write them. However, my advice would be to put your sources on the talk page first, to check that the others agree they're reliable. That will avoid any ill-feeling. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If they are using that footnote system, you would write (as an example): <ref>Cobain, Ian. [http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1745489,00.html "Revealed: victims of UK's cold war torture camp"], ''The Guardian'', April 3, 2006</ref> and then in the references or notes section, make sure it says <references/>, and that will produce the footnotes. But exactly how you write it up depends on what the website says. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
However, I do urge you to post your sources on the talk page first, rather than just inserting them. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Ce mai faci Norbert, nu am mai auzit de la tine de mult. Sint bucuros ca ai revenit na-poi la wikipedia. (BaNaTeaN 05:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]

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Yeah, Norbert ostia sint prosti. Cred ca daca nu ne luptam cu ostia pentru articolul romania, ostia intro buna vreme o sal distruga. Eu nu pot sa inteleg ca sint numa 400,000 de romanii in america. Numa an statele unite trebe sa fie 1 million, si in canada intre 200-300 mii la minimum, sa poate si mai mult an amandoe tarii. tu ce crezii? (BaNaTeaN 22:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]


Ok, Norbet Arthur o sa ma-uite dupa sources. Iti garentes ca an australia sunt intre 40,000-50,000 de romanii, si an germania trebe sa fie minim de 250,000 de romanii. Ce spui tu este adeverul despre america nord(trebe sa fie 1.5 millione de romanii). Ma inerveaza prostu osta jayjig. am intrat pe articolul facut de tine despre australia, sii am scimbat estimatia de la 50,000-60,000 la 40,000-50,000. am mai scimbat estimatiilor la sydney, melbourne si brisbane. an sydney se estimeaza 14,000 de romanii, si an melbourne se estimeaza 15,000 de romanii, doar an bribane se estimeaza 4,500. Nu am source pentru astea, da asta este adeverul(am vorbit cu un representator roman din parliament din australia). Jayjig nu stie nimic, el crede ca sunt numai 4 millione de romanii an diaspora, cand cifra trebe sa fir pe la 7-8 millione usor. nu mai bine Norbert. (BaNaTeaN 00:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]

ok, norbert can o sa gasesc sources o sa ti le dau tie. (BaNaTeaN 23:36, 5 April 2006 (UTC))[reply]

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