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Rick Boyce PROD

Proposed deletion of Rick Boyce

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Rick Boyce, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Insufficient biographical detail. Non notable individual. Possible vanity / commercial page. Reference includes minimal mention of Boyce. Text verbatim reprint from book in Para 1 Possible WP:C

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Several pages in the following book are devoted to Boyce's role in the early commercialization of the web.

Conspiracy journalism

Just came across this article, and your assertion on the talk page that it should be deleted, I wholeheartedly agree, and concur with the reasons you give. Shall say so. Regards Wingspeed (talk) 13:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reid, Robert H. (1997). Architects of the Web: 1,000 Days that Built the Future of Business. John Wiley & Sons. Chapter Seven: 'Hotwired - Publishing on the Web' (pp 280-321) ISBN 0471171875

Are you disputing...

The book's accuracy?

The importance of the web?

The importance of the banner ad to the commercialization of the web?

What about this page is "commercial?" I see no ads or suggestions that Boyce is available for hire or has something to sell.

What elements are present that support your statement that this a "vanity" page?

By what measure do you judge the person who was instrumental in sorting out the first workable model for commercial publishing on the web (banner ads) "non-notable?" The banner ad model has generated many billions of dollars in ad sales, was the key support for commercial web ventures from 1994 to approx. 2000, and is still one of a handful of ad forms that are used in web advertising.

"Reference includes minimal mention of Boyce" - Are you claiming that the book makes minimal reference to him? What is "minimal mention," who sets the standard and how does that apply in this case?

The bio states Boyce is an early pioneer of the development of the commercial web. It specifies his contribution. The book verifies this statement in detail (as do other book references and links not in this article.)

"Text verbatim reprint from book in Para 1 Possible" I guess anything's "possible." Have you considered investing the time in actually looking before you proposed deleting the article? It's easy enough to establish one way or another. This kind of statement could be made about every sentence that appears on wikipedia or any other source of information.

I agree that the bio could contain more info, but the info it does contain is verifiable and covers a topic that is notable and potentially of interest to the hundreds of million people who visit and use commercial web sites not to mention the large industry that has grown up around commercial web publishing since 1994.

Nolatime (talk) 01:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)Nolatime[reply]

You elected to delete two WP:PROD, contrary to WP:CSP. The paragraph regarding Rick's hiring from his original firm is a verbatim pull from the book. Additionally, Risk's mention in the book hardly qualifies as a standalone biogrpahical reference. It is a minor reference with little detail relating to himself, versus his role as a salesman / marketer. I contest your assertion of Rick as being "instrumental", the text you cite does not support this claim - and you only cite one text. It would be akin to saying Bill Gates was instrumental in developing MS-DOS with a single line reference to his philanthropy. Boyce is not a technolgist, he is a marketer and ad salesman. There is nothing in your proposed bio to support the statements and the text actually refutes his involvement with the creation of banner ads.

Minimal mention is four times in a book of over 250 pages. The information submitted is more commercial than biographical and a quick search on Alexa would indicate that your 100s of millions claim is incorrect.

If you think he is notable, then put together a stronger biography, complying with the WP:BLP guidelines. You and I have had this disagreement over other individuals you have submitted. Cheers. Jettparmer (talk) 15:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Boyce

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Rick Boyce, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Jehochman ^Talk 04:38, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Boyce prod

Hi Nolatime. I had a look at the deleted article and don't believe it should have been deleted. I will save the text of the deleted article in your userspace here. You may recreate it in the mainspace. If anyone else believes the article should be deleted they can contribute to a further discussion at WP:AFD.

The actual deletion summary of prodded articles is not generally the deleting administrator's opinion, but that of the person who proposed the article for deletion. Thus it is usually pointless to ask the admin themselves about it :) Anyway, please feel free to recreate the article. Articles proposed for deletion can be recreated, unlike those deleted via an AFD discussion. Regards, ~ Riana ⁂ 04:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see my reply on my talk page. As you seem to be a relatively new user.... Let's keep our conversation in one place, OK. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should probably start by working on the article's talk page, helping ensure that our verifiability and biography policies are being followed. If that doesn't help the situation, you may want to consider asking for wider input via a Request for Comment. (ESkog)^(Talk) 21:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry. It's my mistake. Please for give me. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 15:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy journalism

I have nominated this for deletion here. Maurreen (talk) 18:12, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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