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Sources

Hi, you're doing great work… just a note: it would be great if you (and is actually very important to) mention sources for whatever you add to Wikipedia. For example, you added to Raghuvamsha that it contains 21 metres. When you add it, please mention the name of the book (or whatever other source) where you found this information. You can just add it any way you like. If you need any help, please feel free to ask. Otherwise, your wonderful contributions, like possibly the entire Sribhargavaraghaviyam article may end up being deleted by misguided editors insisting on verifiability. Regards, Shreevatsa (talk) 07:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added the reference - difficult to find ISBN numbers for many Indian books, especially dealing with Sanskrit. Question: How to talk effectively and post the signature with time? Regards, (talk)

I agree... many Indian books don't have ISBN numbers and ISBN was only started in the 1960s, anyway. It's ok not to have ISBN numbers. Just author and title is the bare minimum (sufficient), though year and publisher are useful, and ISBN numbers etc. are nice to have if easily available. To post signature with time, type four tildes ~~~~. When you save, they will be converted into name and date. Regards, Shreevatsa (talk) 10:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Sribhargavaraghaviyam

Message for you on the talk. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ashtavakra: Thanks for making it consistent. About IAST, there is no concurrent policy. However, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Dharmic) exists, which is no more part of official policy. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In Sribhargavaraghaviyam, the verses are important as you are discussing poetic nuances. Ganesha is a WP:Featured Article (FA) ("Featured articles are considered to be the best articles in Wikipedia, as determined by Wikipedia's editors", check the link to find more about how articles become FAs), can be identified by a golden star on top right. Hanuman et al are not FAs and may not be WP:Peer Reviewed. In articles about epic characters, deities; it is the meaning of the verse that matters, not the exact words. There is no ban of using IAST. The words like Sanskrit [1], Prakrit[2], avatar[3] are English words, no more just Sanskrit words that need IAST. For non-experts (someone who has never heard of IAST), Rāma is Rama with fancy marks, but how many non-experts are going to know Saṃskṛta is Sanskrit, Śiva is Shiva (standardized English spelling for the deity), Lakṣmaṇa is Lakshmana? --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:03, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Message for you on Talk:Sribhargavaraghaviyam.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:04, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bhaṭṭikāvya uses IAST, but not for words like Sanskrit, Prakrit. See Talk:Sribhargavaraghaviyam. If you want to add the verse, it is best to put the translation in the article and the original Devanagari in a footnote with the reference. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My opening comments at Talk:Jagadguru Rāmabhadrācārya. Please see Ahalya as well. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:27, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on Ahalya.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:57, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on Ahalya. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:45, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Message for you on Talk:Ahalya. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on Ahalya.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:37, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Gitaramayanam

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Looks more like an advert than an article. Notability is questionable.

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Ahalya

Hi. It's my pleasure to inform you that Ahalya is now a WP:Good article. I would think to make it a WP:Featured article. Do you think any facets of Ahalya are missing from the article? Do have any literature that shows these facets? Thanks. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work, appreciate your efforts. I will take a look sometime on the weekend. Thanks. Nmisra (talk) 02:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:19, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstart :) --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For the sheer volume of work that went into Jagadguru Ramabhadracharya. Keep it going! (I did promise a Kannada translation ;) , will get that done shortly!) Lynch 7 04:13, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Khamgatam. You have new messages at Talk:Jagadguru_Rambhadracharya#Requested_move.
Message added 17:22, 28 August 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Alternate suggestion as "Swami Rambhadracharya" Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:22, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ramakrishna Article

On your response in Swami Vivekananda article, I think you can start a discussion about Ramakrishna article to move it to Ramakrishna Paramhansha. Ping me in my talk page if necessary. Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 08:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	All your edits made to Jagadguru Rambhadracharya and related article shows a brilliant piece of perfection. Just a tribute for that. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 17:17, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats and Kudos !

	Hinduism
	For making Jagadguru Rambhadracharya a GA, creating many articles on his works and uploading relevant images for the articles, you are awarded the Hinduism Barnstar Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Raj Rajaratnam

Hello. I have undone your revision of TeaPartyFreedom76's edits to Raj Rajaratnam. Although the information he supplied radically changed the article, he did cite his sources, and I feel that this means a revision should at least be discussed on the talk page before being hastily undid. Please consider this in the future. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RubleTuesday (talk • contribs) 01:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rambhadracharya bibliography

On 28 October 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rambhadracharya bibliography, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the works of Jagadguru Rambhadracharya include more than 90 titles, including published books and unpublished manuscripts? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Red link in Bhupen Hazarika

Hi, red links are not a bad thing, they motivate users to start pages. Linking to a foreign language wiki won't help readers who don't speak the specific language. Regards Hekerui (talk) 20:50, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ahalya

I am trying to move the article to FA status and have initiated a peer review. Your critic would be appreciated at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ahalya/archive1 or on Talk:Ahalya. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:52, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I would really love to but I am afraid this will have to wait - would be quite busy at work and with family for the next couple of months which means I would not be spending much time on Wikipedia. Will do it in 2012 if it is still not an FA. Apologies. Nmisra (talk) 15:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Can you please add the ISBN of Ahalyoddhāra in Ahalya? --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is none, like books from many Indian publishers. :) Nmisra (talk) 23:40, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Rambhadracharya

Hi. Thanks for attending to what looked like some overlink in this article. Actually, I wonder if you knew that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#What generally should not be linked has recently changed to allow the first occurrence of something after the lede to be linked? I'm not going to revert you, though, as I slightly agree with your way. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 10:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ekal Vidyalaya

Hi Nmisra. I know that you disagree with me on the emphasis that should be placed on different aspects and opinions in this article, but I believe you will agree that factual information from credible sources that say "he said that" should not be deleted. Whether you or I agree with what he said, he said it. May I ask that if you see material like this being deleted from the article, you help by restoring it? I am getting weary of undoing edits that attempt to deny reality. It would be a relief to have another editor help maintain a balanced representation of the divergent views about this subject. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 01:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can help with undoing edits like removal of sourced content. Requesting to protect the page may also help. Nmisra (talk) 05:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. The page has been protected at various times in the past, but compared to topics like global warming, creationism or Balkan politics this one only suffers from minor vandalism. It just needs watching and sourced material restored when deleted. Thanks again, Aymatth2 (talk) 14:00, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is Christian Today which describes itself as "trans-denominational Christian newspaper" (part of christiantoday.com more info [reference]), The Milli Gazette which describes itself as "Indian Muslims' Leading English Newspaper" (more info [here]), credible sources for Ekal Vidyalaya topic?

Just trying to understand how.इति इतिUAनॆति नॆति Humour Thisthat2011 14:38, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have to comment... A source can be acceptable even if it is not sympathetic to the subject of an article. Unfriendly sources may help to give a balanced view. To take an extreme example, many of the sources for the article on Nazi Germany are hostile to the subject. If all these sources were removed the article would be less than complete. What matters is that the source may be assumed to be reliable. When Christian Today reports a statement by John Dayal there is good reason to suppose that he made that statement. When Milli Gazette publishes an article on the suspension of government funds, we can assume that they have checked their facts and the government did indeed suspend funding. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would say an editorial from Christian Today (CT) or Milli Gazette (MG) may be biased, but in this particular article the two sources are cited primarily for quotes and facts. CT is cited at three places for (1) some authors criticizing Ekal (2) prominent people on board of directors (3) quote from Dayal - which are all true - one can disagree on whether the weight given to CT's article is undue as per WP:UNDUE, but I do not see any issue in citing CT per se at the three places. MG is cited for the stopping of government funds, for which we have another source (The Hindu), so the citation may be removed since a news source like The Hindu is sufficient and citing MG is not required. I have to add that to make the article better, we need to expand other sections apart from controversy - there is much more to Ekal Vidyalayas than controversy - coverage in mainstream English media is low so less popular news sources like CT, MG or India Currents, India Journal are cited. However, coverage of EVF in Hindi and regional languages of India is much more intensive and also focussed on actual activites and events rather than the controversy aspect. Irrespective of the side of the argument we are on, we should try to make the article better by expanding other sections - maybe add some photographs, et cetera. Nmisra (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another question is are the two sources considered reliable? If you want to add some content, add from neutral sources.इति इतिUAनॆति नॆति Humour Thisthat2011 10:49, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did not add the sources. But as pointed above, I think Milli Gazette can be removed. CT may be removed but unless you find another source for the same quote, you would face opposition from some other editors who will insists that it stays. BTW some more sources in the article (NRI Today, etc) may also be considered to be unreliable. See my edits on this article and others as well before concluding that I added the sources. You are I are more likely on the same side of the debate. Vande Mataram. Nmisra (talk) 00:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is just one side here, the Wikipedia side. If the sources are unreliable, then the sources should be removed that is the policy.

According to me, sources Christian Today is an unreliable source. Milli Gazette is also an unreliable source. I would remove contents from these sources. Controversial views better be cemented with reliable sources which I think is standard Wikipedia policy.ईती ईतीUAनेती नेती Humour Thisthat2011 13:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Be my guest, you will meet opposition though. Not from me. Nmisra (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how to gauge the reliability of sources in general (unless it's obvious that it's user-generated), which is why I usually ask at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Nightscream (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. I have put forth the query at above location. The link is [here].

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Discussion on reliable sources

Hello,

Any idea where the discussion on reliable sources is going [here]?

Per me it is going in circles, the circles being François Gautier or John Dayal or VHP, etc. ie anything but topic of discussion viz sources!

It is weird that no one wants to just replace the sources with neutral sources for the same content. Perhaps I will do it myself if this discussion becomes pointless.इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 20:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussions on Wikipedia are a colossal waste of time, I have indulged in some and realized that I would rather keep on improving articles of my own accord than try to convince others. Nmisra (talk) 00:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It appears the same - the discussion on reliable sources is the most weird of all. Different authors give different meaning to it. Though the discussion above has given me some more clarity.इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 08:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Hinduism-related topics notice board#WikiProject Rambhadracharya. Thanks. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 09:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pointers to uploading images

Hello,

Could you mention a few things about uploading images onto Wikipedia.

Thanks.इति इतिUAनेति नेति Humour Thisthat2011 09:53, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

	Ahalya says Thanks
	Thanks for helping the article improve to FA standards in its early stages of development by your constructive comments on the talk ! --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A pie for you!

When you told me that you are not going to edit Wikipedia any more, it got really sad, but great to see that you are back with a new identity. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 12:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Tulsidas

As the primary contributor, why don't you nominate it to WP:GA? After GA, hopefully FA :) --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:56, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

neuter gender in sanskrit asana names

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Can you explain what you mean in your edit summary?Curb Chain (talk) 01:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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