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Please advise on how to make more "neutral." Perhaps the references (NY Times, Wall Street Journal) should be reviewed (?) PLEASE help - this is becoming very frustrating.

In response to the perceived inaction of the Horace Mann School administration and Board of Trustees and as an offshoot of the Processing Horace Mann group on Facebook, in June 2012 several alumni formed the Horace Mann Action Coalition (HMAC). ^[1]^[2] The HMAC was created specifically to support the survivors of sexual abuse at Horace Man School and to pursue the goals and needs of those survivors. The group organized 'from the ground up', across continents and time zones and at its inception consisted of doctors, lawyers, business people, junk mail copy writers, authors, therapists and grassroots activists all of whom are alumni of the Horace Mann School. The group is in the process of becoming a formal nonprofit and is actively seeking :

1- an apology from the school to the survivors, 2- an independent investigation similar to the one so adeptly conducted by Louis Freeh at Penn State, 3- compensation for the survivors to address the need for appropriate therapy, counseling and healing 4- transparency and honesty in the process and workings of the Horace Mann School Board of Trustees 5- Increased awareness and prevention of the scourage of child sexual abuse. ^[3]

The Action Coalition is sponsoring protests and activities in an effort the encourage our alma mater, Horace Mann School, to address the needs of the survivors of abuse. Among those activities is a Diploma Return Protest, scheduled to coincide with the start of school on 9/4/12. Alumni are encouraged to have their diplomas delivered to the School specifically on that date. ^[4]

The HMAC is a dedicated and committed group of concerned alumni who hope to restore trust, compassion and honor to their alma mater, Horace Mann School in Riverdale, New York.

I recommend discussing it on the articles talk page, as they will know what a NPOV is for that particular article. Mdann52 (talk) 05:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

August 2012

Hello, I'm Daonguyen95. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Horace Mann School, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Daonguyen95 (talk) 05:02, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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PLEASE let me know what area requires work. I have added references and re-read/edited for 'neutral' language. Please let me know specifics- I am happy to alter further as needed. Thanks- --Nina626 (talk) 18:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The link you want - Talk:Horace Mann School. Mdann52 (talk) 06:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please please help!

Now even my request for help is gone. I just do not understand how to do this. I have rewritten according to wkik guidelines, have added reputable refs etc: WHAT NOW? Please please help . {{help-help}} In response to the perceived inaction of the Horace Mann School administration and Board of Trustees and as an offshoot of the Processing Horace Mann group on Facebook, in June 2012 several alumni formed the Horace Mann Action Coalition (HMAC).^[5] ^[6] The HMAC was created specifically to support the survivors of sexual abuse at Horace Mann and to pursue the goals and needs of those survivors. The group organized 'from the ground up', across continents and time zones and at its inception consisted of doctors, lawyers, business people, junk mail copy writers, authors, therapists and grassroots activists all of whom are alumni of the Horace Mann School. The group is in the process of becoming a formal nonprofit and is actively seeking :

1- an apology from the school to the survivors, 2- an independent investigation similar to the one so adeptly conducted by Louis Freeh at Penn State, 3- compensation for the survivors to address the need for appropriate therapy, counseling and healing 4- transparency and honesty in the process and workings of the Horace Mann School Board of Trustees 5- Increased awareness and prevention of the scourage of child sexual abuse. ^[7]

The Action Coalition is sponsoring protests and activities in an effort the encourage the school to address the needs of the surivivors of abuse. Among those activities is a Diploma Return Protest; Alumni are encouraged to have their diplomas delivered to the School on 9/4/2012, the first day of the 2012-13 schoolyear.^[8]

The HMAC is a dedicated and committed group of concerned alumni who hope to restore trust, compassion and honor to their alma mater, Horace Mann School in Riverdale, New York. --Nina626 (talk) 12:35, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from my talk page to somewhere where a helpme is more appropriate. Mdann52 (talk) 13:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I think that the HMAC is probably worth a mention, since it's been covered by independent sources, but the Horace Mann article is ultimately about the Horace Mann school and should not be used as a soapbox, although our neutrality policy is a very difficult line to tread when the topic is so controversial and emotional.

Would it be possible to condense the text a little? I don't think it's helpful to go on about the employment backgrounds of people involved in HMAC; and if the list of demands or a mission statement is going to be mentioned at all, then there is a slightly more condensed wording in the WSJ article. It's also important to avoid making controversial statements of fact - especially about living people - in wikipedia's voice if we don't have very solid sources to support them; a slight change of wording to put things in HMAC's voice could help. So, instead of "X happened and Y was bad", the article would be better served with "HMAC said that X happened and Y was bad...".

Does that sound reasonable? bobrayner (talk) 13:45, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Your recent talk page comments on User talk:Mdann52 were not added to the bottom of the page. New discussion page messages and topics should always be added to the bottom. Your message may have been moved by another user. In the future you can use the "New section" link in top right. For more details see talk page guidelines. Thank you. Can you also please stop posting changes on my talk page - they should go here Mdann52 (talk) 04:54, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444246904577573704169774974.html?mod=WSJ_NY_MIDDLETopStories}

[2] ttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/nyregion/horace-mann-school-details-steps-to-handle-sexual-abuse-reports.html?ref=nyregion

[3] ttp://hmactioncoalition.businesscatalyst.com/index.html

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[5] [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444246904577573704169774974.html?mod=WSJ_NY_MIDDLETopStories}

[6] ttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/nyregion/horace-mann-school-details-steps-to-handle-sexual-abuse-reports.html?ref=nyregion

[7] ttp://hmactioncoalition.businesscatalyst.com/index.html

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