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Archive This is an archive of past discussions on Nihiltres' user talk page, as archived on May 9, 2016. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Monkey Kingdom Article

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Hello, I found you in yahoo answers and I need a big help. A wikipedia user known as Koala15 keeps removing what I posted in Monkey Kingdom article without a proper explanation. can you do something about it? can you lock the article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Kingdom I think you can clearly see how biased he is and he doesn't even have a valid reason to remove the banyan tree story. he keeps removing it like wikipedia is his personal blog. I hope you will lock the article or warn him. thanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Kingdom Ceylonpedia (talk) 13:33, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceylonpedia: With respect, I'm not sure that the tree story is relevant to the article. Without either doubting or accepting the allegations presented, emphasizing a single story in a local newspaper is probably undue weight for the Monkey Kingdom Wikipedia article. Are there other sources covering the story? Those would support its inclusion in the article. If not, it's probably not Wikipedia's place to cover it, no matter the importance or truth of the incident. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 19:38, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting rollback

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The user Helmoony is mass-removing "Tunisian arabic" in articles that was in place since several months. after the debate in Tunisia portal in september, an admin finally decided to grant the mention of Tunisian arabic for the names of people and places. Things were so settled since then, but the user Helmoony is recently removing all the mentions, could you please do something about it ? Thank you.Zangouang (talk) 16:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zangouang: I can see those edits at Special:Contributions/Helmoony, but I don't know where to look for the context of "the debate in Tunisia portal in september". Can you give me a link? {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 19:49, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
here's the archive for the portal Wikiproject TunisiaZangouang (talk) 22:38, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User has since been blocked as a sockpuppet, as I expected. :/ {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 19:19, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Precious anniversary

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A year ago ...
principles over policy
...you were recipient
no. 1121 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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VisualEditor News #1—2016

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

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You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

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Future changes

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The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences:

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  • Show me both editor tabs.  (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)

The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers would like to know how well the visual editor works in your language. They particularly want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect the following languages: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic and others.

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Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

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The Cure Award
In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.

Thanks again :) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 03:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

20:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

There's a merger proposal rgdg LeBaron group/Ch1stborn

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...Here: Talk:Church_of_the_Firstborn_of_the_Fulness_of_Times#Merger_proposal.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

20:24, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

facial symmetry comment

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The illustration at the top of the page with three faces, two of which are marked a and b

After some discussion in my household we have decided that a and b BOTH represent over-perfect symmetry. I assumed originally, as one would, that a was somehow different from b

Assuming our final decision is correct would you like me to fix the pic to remove the misleading labels?

There are two pictures at the top of Facial symmetry, in a {{double image}} template: a picture of a mildly asymmetric face, and a picture of two perfectly symmetric faces (labelled a and b) composed of the left and right halves of the asymmetric face respectively.
I suppose that since this is confusing, you could either create a new version of the image with the perfectly symmetric faces but omitting the labels a and b, or, more simply, edit the double image description to more precisely describe the three faces.
In any event, I have no special authority over the article, nor strong opinions on what ought to be done. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 20:55, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Convert

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Re your edit to Module:Convert/sandbox, I hope you don't mind but I plan to remove that temporarily while I prepare to fix a problem that has arisen. I work slowly at the best of times and there are some other things I have to do, so I'll be a few days probably. There's not much to see, but I mentioned the issue at Template talk:Convert#Converts with ref are broken. The problem is the change in how MW is processing strip markers mentioned at WP:VPT. That has broken converts in over 50 articles so I need to push out a fix RSN. Johnuniq (talk) 05:25, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnuniq: No problem! I'm teaching myself Lua, and was trying to figure out why Module:Convert didn't play well when I tried using it in some other code. That taught me about frame:getParent() and frame:expandTemplate(), since I hadn't quite understood the frame structure until then. In short, yes, please revert my changes. :) {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 05:32, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New ISBN error tracking

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In case you're not watching any of the places where this is being discussed, I have added ISBN error tracking to a few templates, resulting in a nice population of articles at Category:Pages with ISBN errors.

I was motivated to make these changes by some change that added thousands of new errors to Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/ISBN errors in the past few days.

Just thought you might be interested. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:59, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Convert request

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I see you are online, and per our recent discussion above, I need to do some Module:Convert maintenance (described here). However, I can't edit the module while it is used on the main page, or the upcoming main page. I think a couple of simple fixes would remove it from the queue and allow me to do the updates and check for problems (pretty unlikely). Therefore, I wonder if you would help enable my editing, or perhaps just do the update yourself (two modules: Convert and Convert/data, edit summary "update from sandbox per [[Template talk:Convert#Module version 13]]").

I think all that's needed would be to edit Template:POTD protected/2016-03-14 to replace the {{convert}} template with the equivalent text. That is, replace "{{convert|145|x|114|cm|in}}" with either of the following:

{{subst:convert|145|x|114|cm|in}}
145 by 114 centimetres (57 in × 45 in)

Thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnuniq: OK, I've replaced the instance on Template:POTD protected/2016-03-14 with the corresponding text to bypass the cascade-protection. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 23:15, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! That worked well. Johnuniq (talk) 23:53, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
18:37, 14 March 2016 (UTC) 16:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Centralized ENGVAR, DATEVAR, CITEVAR discussion

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This may be of interest, since you were involved in a recent discussions one or more these guidelines, but didn't stick around so might not have seen the notice: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Cleaning up and normalizing MOS:ENGVAR, WP:CITEVAR, etc.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  12:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Redirect

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Hi. :) Unfortunately it doesn't look I'll have time soon to go through your code on Module:Redirect hatnote/sandbox properly, but I just wanted to say one thing. In Template:Redirect/sandbox you added a positional parameter 1, but I removed it, as it won't have any effect. The reason is that the parameter that you added would correspond to frame.args[1] in the module, but actually the module doesn't use any frame object arguments. It uses arguments from the parent frame object (frame:getParent().args), which refers to any arguments passed by pages transcluding Template:Redirect/sandbox, rather than parameters passed from Template:Redirect/sandbox itself. This feature of Scribunto makes coding modules somewhat confusing, but it (apparently) helps a lot with performance. There are more details at mw:Extension:Scribunto/Parser interface design if you are interested. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 16:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: Shouldn't it have an effect based on line 39 of Module:Redirect hatnote/sandbox, where I set numRedirects to tonumber(frame.args[1]) or 1? My intent is that individual {{redirectN}} templates set that argument at the module invocation, which would then let us convert {{redirect2}} to use the module simply by copying the basic invocation and changing the positional parameter to "2". {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 16:18, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you're right, sorry - I missed that before. I brought it up because the received wisdom is that it's good practice to move that kind of thing inside Lua, for the performance reasons that I mentioned above. But I doubt that one positional parameter will have any appreciable affect, so it's probably not worth worrying about. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 25 March

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Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:31, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 01:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
19:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC) 22:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

about templates

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Before I offer a suggestion: I haven't run into you before on the project, so if you're already a competent editor of templates, please don't be offended.

My suggestion would be to turn {{About3}} and {{About4}} into substitutable wrappers of {{About}} (which is nearly done already) and then just substitute them. This could be done very, very quickly with AWB or a bot run. It's a task that I could probably get speedily approved at BRFA. Are you familiar with how to do that? ~ RobTalk 17:11, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at them. Actually, About3 was already substitutable. About4 wasn't because it had a bunch of useless parser functions, which I removed, so it's good to go now too. ~ RobTalk 17:16, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Although it's perhaps less efficient, I'm choosing to go through it manually so that I can catch cases like this, where the underlying input can be improved. There's no rush—most pages won't appear any different after the migration—so it's harmless. {{Nihiltres |talk |edits}} 20:49, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice

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How to switch between editing environments
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