User talk:Nicolelau1999
Please don’t bite me, I’m a newbie!
I’m a university student in a Wikipedia Education class, and I’m currently learning how to contribute to Wikipedia.
I am approaching my subject in good faith.
If you have any concerns or questions, my tutor’s name is Philip1789 (talk · contribs). Thanks!
Some bubble tea for you!
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Your work on The Toowoomba Chronicle is awesome! Accomplishedhat4547 (talk) 11:35, 4 January 2022 (UTC) |
Thank you, @Accomplishedhat4547: I enjoyed looking at your contribution to your article too.
Hi, there! Can I give you some tips about what you are doing. Firstly, you are not citing enough. There are many paragraphs devoid of any indication of the source material. If there is any fact beyond the "obvious", it needs to be cited. Also I think you are getting into too much detail of light-weight fluff for "encyclopedic" coverage, e.g. the baby contest and specifically the naming of the child concerns me quite a lot (that child is not in a position to give consent and the content of this Wikipedia article might exist throughout their life) whereas the support of the gardening competitions and economic initiatives are probably more worthy topics, e.g. does that gardening link into the annual Carnival of Flowers (a major tourism event for the town)? If that connection exists, then it makes the role of the newspaper more significant. The "how to find the obituaries" is not appropriate. And I am not sure that what you find there can truly be described as obituaries. There appear to be a range of content, including death/funeral/in-memorial notices, social media style condolence messages, and some obituaries for which the author is not identified (this makes a difference as an obit written by a loving family member doesn't have the credibility of one written by a more objective staff reporter). I think the Chronicle recognises this by its use of the term "tribute". And I don't think this service is particularly unique to that newspaper;I am sure I have seen the same thing on the Courier-Mail. Also you are writing as if you work for the Chronicle as everything is very chatty and positive (aside, if you do have any connection with the Chronicle, you may be in violation of the conflict-of-interest policy). Don't write like a marketing droid. You might find it instructive to look at some other newspaper articles that have been assessed as "Good Articles", see Category:GA-Class Newspapers articles to try to get more of a sense of the style. Similarly it's one thing to say that they broke a story about sexual abuse in local school, but maybe not to name the individuals. But again if you saw a headline "local newspaper breaks local school story", would you bother to read it? Well, Wikipedia readers are much the same. "Local newspaper breaks local story" is what you think a local newspaper should do. Did they break any stories of wider significance, e.g. "underpayment of Woolworths employees", or "mine site contaminates farmland". Try to look above "what they do" to "what is the significance of what they do". As you see with the examples, an article doesn't have to be terribly long to be considered of a high standard. If anything too much trivia would be a negative. Also the list of contributors. How often do you reckon that changes? Are you planning to be around to update the Wikipedia article each time it does? Please think about the maintainability of Wikipedia. It's not a bad idea to list all the editors (the top dog editor) over time, as that is a significant role and only changes once over several years. It's probably a bad idea to list who photographs the school formals. The other thing is that you don't seem to know how to make a citation in Wikipedia. You appear to be using the source editor, in which case on your toolbar, you should see Cite, click it, and then use the Templates (sub menu below). Or if you really want to make your life easier, use the Visual Editor. When you look at the article, do you see "Edit" and "Edit source" at the top? If so, try using "Edit" (more like Microsoft Word and use its Cite tool on the menu). If you do not see both "Edit" and "Edit source" at the top, then go to your Preferences (top right of screen when you are logged in), then to the Editing tab, and then scroll down to the "Editing mode" setting and change the dropdown to be "Show me both editor tabs", then scroll to the bottom left and click Save. If you want to talk to me, the easiest way is to write here but include {{ping|Kerry Raymond}} (just copy and paste it including the 2 curly braces at the front and rear) which sends me an alert. Kerry (talk) 05:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
@Kerry Raymond: Thank you so much for your input. This was helpful and I will take the comments on board.