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Hello, Neil K Gillingham, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited was User:Neil K Gillingham, which appears to be an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. We require individuals to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person to accept articles about them.

The page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page. If your contributions to an existing article about yourself are undone and you wish to add to it, please propose the changes on its talk page.

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Not really an article about myself. I gave a few points as to who I am on this profile. On the wiki page about my grandmother I’ve added articles and info relating to the murder itself and things I’ve been quoted on. As for notability, it was clearly notable for a third party who doesn’t know me to use my name, my grandfathers name, my mothers name and my grandmothers. So if it’s okay for someone else to use my name, it’s ok for me too. Neil K Gillingham (talk) 07:25, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Neil, I can see you obviously have a lot of information about this incident that other editors don't have. If you want to use that information here it is important to follow a few simple rules and guidelines otherwise your edits will be reversed. You must properly reference all material detail you add and be as neutral as possible in what you write. I also suggest you read BLP. Remember that we don't put information into an article that we know to be true: we put in information published by reliable secondary sources, whether we agree with it or not. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 10:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed Neil K Gillingham (talk) 10:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Quite confused, I checked with regards to notability. I have various IMDB profiles, and I’m heavily quoted in the media relating not just to my grandmother Carole Packman but other cases and the fact I campaign. How do I create a page detailing the work I’m doing away from just the murder itself. As an example, I launched the Chrysalis Programme in 2010 in the House of Lords. In 2014 I started campaigning as part of a collective - Helens Law is already mentioned on my grandmothers page but not attributed to me or Samantha Gillingham individually despite our long term involvement. Likewise, as also noted, we may become the first to have a public parole hearing - this wasn’t offered to us, we had to campaign for it! The point I’m making is whilst connected, the current page focuses on Carole Packman, but we are the driving force behind the case even being known still today. 

Neil K Gillingham (talk) 14:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! — Diannaa (talk) 22:01, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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