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Speed skating at the 2022 Winter Olympics – Qualification

Thanks for all the hard work on this page. I am trimming a lot of it down because it should be relevant to Olympic Qualification and appeared really bulky as it was. If you disagree, change it back or discuss, not really a big deal.18abruce (talk) 15:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am still really puzzled by the 'time' charts. Why are you listing times, some of them as qualifying athletes, that are not even better than the qualification standard. For instance: the qualification time for the women's 1500m is 1:59.50. Why list the times of 30 athletes who have not achieved that? Why would Ekaterina Sloeva, Mia Kilburg, and others be listed as qualified when they have not achieved the qualification time? How are they qualified?18abruce (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Time qualification rankings give quotas to the NOCs, not the athletes. The athletes are relevant only because the same athlete can't earn a quota for their NOC by both points and time. An athlete can earn a quota for their NOC even if they don't meet the minimum time standard, it just means they can't be the athlete that competes at the Olympics. Also worth remembering that only the four world cups are used for the Olympic time ranking, but many more competitions are considered for the minimum qualification time, meaning that many of the athletes listed on the time ranking will have meet the minimum qualification time even though their time on the time ranking doesn't.NearPup (talk) 22:25, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I get it now, thank you.18abruce (talk) 01:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are going to need to add some kind of note to explain why you are disagreeing with official ISU communications of who is qualified. I understand mostly why you are listing the time qualifiers as you are, the rules do read that way to me too, but that is not what they did after WC2.18abruce (talk) 20:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ISU have updated, and disagree with you again. If there is a good reason could you explain it please.18abruce (talk) 21:22, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ISU is wrong about their own quota simulation or they changed the qualification rules without letting anyone know. If there is a more up to date version of the 2022 qualification document in the wild please let me know, but the quota simulation they put out literally contradicts the 2022 qualification document they previously published - there is just no reading of the 2022 qualification document that leads to the quota simulation they published. The only plausible explanation I can find is that they are generating the quota simulation based on the 2018 rules, because their quota simulation matches those rules. It's really weird and I wish I had a better answer.NearPup (talk) 21:28, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've reached out to the ISU ( https://twitter.com/NearPup/status/1469057302959427592?s=20 ) in hope of clarification on this. NearPup (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The updated simulation is here. I have looked at the rules from three different sources, they all show the rules as you have done them I believe.18abruce (talk) 21:41, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Canada at the 2024 Summer Olympics

Track cycling quotas are not confirmed as of yet. The Canadian women have only earned 2 quota spots in road events.[1] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]