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CASA Espacio

Hey NawlinWiki,

I widely expanded the page CASA Espacio and noticed that it was deleted.... May you please help me and tell me what I did wrong? Since the information comes directly from EADS CASA Espacio, I did not copy anything from some page... The info is very serious and helpful I think...

Please help me since it took me such a long time ;-)grr!

Thanks a lot in advance!!!

Katharina

BOJUKA

Thanks Good delete, I had started trying to cleaning it up & found it was deleted when I went to save it --Nate1481(^talk/_contribs) 15:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ground Level Deletion Question Hi NawlinWiki,

I was trying to start an article for one of the products that that has not only helped my 1 year old but to many kids and adults in India in fighting mosquito problems. Would you please clarify what I did wrong, as I was just getting into the process and was not by any means finished?

The product has been clinically tested and proven by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. More over it is not only one of the top selling insect repellent in India but is also being sold by Mothercare(UK), Boots etc.

Thank you for your feedback.

Amit Bajaj

Talk:The Gospel Harmony Boys

Could you please restore Talk:The Gospel Harmony Boys as well, as you restored the original article? See deletion log and deletion log. Thank you. Er rab ee 12:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Jackson

The entry for Mick Jackson merges two people! The author of The Underground Man is a different individual, who has written several other books. He also a filmaker under the name Kirkham Jackson (see IMDB).

Kayla Rolland

Considering the current state of BLP, I think this is actually a candidate for speedy deletion in the interest of the subject. If this isn't speedyable, then could you either help me nominate it on AfD or show me how it's done? I've never put an article up for AfD before, though I have done a number of {{db}}'s. --Ssbohio 16:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, the AfD is open and working. Thanks for your help! --Ssbohio 19:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Helmet Fonnington

Heading provided by Ssbohio

You blocked my page about Helmet Fonnington. Do you really think there is someone called Helmet? He is known as Helmet Fonnington because of his helmet. people need to know about him and information needs to be given. I only know what he told me as he tied us up in my house in garstang and proceeded to rape my wife and son. This is an insult to me and all the familys that have suffered from this man. I think an apology is in order. if you still do not believe me contact garstang police station on 00441524542697

Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Talk:Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America

Would you go ahead and close this since you g8'd the page? It would be appreciated. -N 19:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Would Be Emperors

As you will have seen, I originally deleted it on WP:MUSIC criteria. The author pointed out, in a perfectly friendly message, that the drummer of this band was formerly a member of another band whose notability is not contested. That just about qualifies them, does it not? Or should I go and re-read the policy?--Anthony.bradbury 20:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, criterion number 6, first paragraph. Sorry.--Anthony.bradbury 20:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would not argue even slightly with this. The band is, as you say, clearly non-notable, and my restoration of the article was on the basis of a (valid) technicality which I had originally overlooked.--Anthony.bradbury 20:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense articles

Hey, thanks for cleaning up the mess User:StealBoy left behind, the bogus articles you cleared up today. Far better to get them out of the way now than have them hang around for an AFD. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 22:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

100 New York Mysteries

I see that you speedied this. No argument from me. However, you might also wish to keep an eye on the article on Aaron Krach, the book's photographer. -- Hoary 10:59, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

~~ afgindy ~~

How would I remove the speedy deletion box from an article I wrote. Someone else wrote some inappropriate things which I caught quickly and is now remedied. However, the speedy deletion box is still on the article. I am a new user to wikipedia and do not quite understand protocol. The article is "Adam Goldsmith". Thanks in advance...

EX vandle

Hi I'm an EX vandle i made the free toast thing and i thank you for blocking us and showing us the light in wiki Thank You Wikilove123 16:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EX vandle

Hi I'm an EX vandle i made the free toast thing and i thank you for blocking us and showing us the light in wiki Thank You Wikilove123 16:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Nawlin, this could mean we're on the trail of the sock puppet. --Garzooka, Odious, Abnermal, Starlena and ComPooky! LET THE FUR FLY! 17:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Summers complained about our personal attacks on him over at AN/I

It's been resolved, but in case you missed it...--SarekOfVulcan 20:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pacific Golden Plover

The problem with adding non-English names for birds is that once you have one there is no reason not to add the French, Spanish, Tagalog, Korean, a dozen Indian languages... I don't have any great problem with local names for species which are endemic to Hawaii (or Maori names for NZ endemics), but if you look at the what links here for this widespread long distance migrant you could end up with a list of up to a hundred names. Hope this helps, Jimfbleak 15:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that makes sense too - nice to make contact, I've often seen you on the delete and block logs, keep up the good work. Jimfbleak 18:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Yummytork

Dang, you're fast...I was about to drop the blocked notice on his user page and found you beat me to it! AKRadecki^Speaketh 20:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was contemplating indef as well (and wouldn't object to that even now), and the only thing that stayed my hand was that he asked me how to send copyright permissions to the Foundation, so I saw a glimmer of a chance that he might want to start doing things right. AKRadecki^Speaketh 20:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tara holmes / Esquier farm hey how come you are deleting two of my pages? they both are pages that ought to be included in wikipedia but i just do not know how to put citations in them, maybe you could help me out and tel me how? im a little new at this, i dont really know how to do much, it took me an hour just to find your talk page. id apprecate some help so i can validate my articles, thanks.

Robert W. A.

Yes but Ms. Holmes is quite notable as while as the farm. Ms. Holmes is one of the rising stars in her field and Internet searches will show that she has many first place awards in dance. Including here is much like including Lebron James when he was in high school, young, rising and quite important to her field already, not to include her would be a travesty.

Also could you help explain to me how to include citations in my articles?

Thank you.

Robert W. A.

Well actually both are both notable, both topics (jazz dance and organic farming) I am quite knowledgeable in. how can I show that they are notable?

well forgive me for saying it like is it, but ask any teacher or student at BU, i told no lie. my appolgies for your suspissions but i found that his name should be included because he is the professor most commonly acused of deflaighting grades

Fakawi

Kindly repost the Fakawi page. This is a very popular band in Malta(Europe) as these links show tanx

http://www.duduplanet.com/Dudu%20Files/FILES/MUSIC/FAKAWI.htm

http://www.blakondixin.com/about.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/music-of-malta

http://www.ciskexport.com/page.jsp?id=63&siteid=1

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malta/messages/201?viscount=100

http://fakawimusic.bravehost.com/

http://www.manicmalta.com/beer_festival_malta.htm

http://www.music-marathon.com/who_is_playing.html

http://www.kaizenlog.com/2007/01/18/zoo-cartoons-night-last-200-tickets-left/

and many more

Stoplight

This article was deleted, but I was never really given a chance to prove his notability. The reason given for deletion was "Patent Nonsense". Despite the seemingly nonsensical nature of the article, I refer you to examples of Wikipedia articles describing professional wrestlers. It presents the material as fact, relying on the reader to understand that the achievements are not necessarily describing real life. (eg: After Jake Roberts lost a match... to Randy Savage,[9] Roberts planned on attacking Savage and his wife... with a steel chair). To someone unfamiliar with the world of professional wrestling, this would sound like patent nonsense. However, because the audience is assumed to understand that the world of professional wrestling is often farcical and not meant to be representative of reality, we know that this isn't the case.

The same applies with Stoplight. The world of streetball is similar to the world of professional wrestling. Much of it is theatrical bravado planned out in advance, with feuds being publicized and dealt with in equally dramatic fashions. The biographical details of Stoplight are entirely accurate. Please reconsider your deletion of the article.

StreetballazCrunk 01:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)StreetballazCrunk[reply]

Deleting the article Krystle Tay will make my life miserable.

WHY YOU DELETE THIS ARTICLE?! I"M ANGRY WITH YOU!!!!!Seowwx 03:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Radfar Ratio

The Radfar Ratio is nothing to do with at person, it is specifically looking at a mathematical technique in modern microeconomics that is used to measure the propensity to exit. Your reasons for deleting this page mean that 1000s of Wikipedia articles relating to mathematical techniques should be deleted, like the Laspeyres Index. Why haven't you deleted the Sharpe Ratio wikipedia page? The white test for heteroscedasticity? Why is multicollineratiy seen as a statistical phenomen that is acceptable?

Can't be arsed re-typing it out. 3 Industrial Organisation texts in the microeconomic library here cite the ratio as a widely spreading ratio and was part of the recent publication by Tom Lynn examining market failures in Taiwan.

Deleted BlueCollar page

Ok....if you're going to delete the page I posted....can you at least have the decency of being specific about why you did it. And don't link me to some help section. I read that stuff, and I fear that if I post the page again...it will still be deleted. You seemed to be suggesting that the page was "blatant advertising." LOL, why??? Because there were pictures of the band and a link to their myspace page??? Lol, come on. What do you want from me?

Also, how can anyone not think it's ridiculous for the procedure in this situation to be....DELETE the page. Not....give the person a chance to edit it.....but, DELETE it. I think I'm "saving" the work I'm doing, yet it can just be deleted at the drop of a hat because it doesn't fit the guide lines well enough. That's fine and all...but how about a chance to EDIT it. Lol, ridiculous.

Explination

Why did you delete my page? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Important_employees_of_google&action=edit

Thanks for the insult to my intelligence: "Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia by creating the page Important employees of google. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do." It wasn't a test.

Not "Neutral point of view"? How so? Google has many important and influential employees and it should be listed. They have a major political figure on the Board of Governors and have two major "Father's" of the Internet as Employees. How is this article not important?

The "Welcome" page you referred me to even states "How can I help? Don't be afraid to edit — anyone can edit almost any page, and we encourage you to be bold! Find something that can be improved, whether content, grammar or formatting, and make it better." Where did I go wrong?

Please advise. Altonbr 19:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What are your credentials? Altonbr 20:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CREDENTIALS!?!? Altonbr 19:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted BlueCollar page

Here Nawlin, since I apparently can't post these on the page....I'll post them for you, since you seem to be the ruler of whether this band is notable or not.

File:Bcpa5.jpg

This is a well-known publication in the indie rock, punk, and alt scenes.

File:Bcpa6.jpg

There are 7 of these hughway billboards throughout the city of Philadelphia, featuring Brian from Blue Collar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kilojames (talk • contribs)

Deleted BlueCollar page

Your continuing condescending tone and attitude is helpful! Thanks! People must like working with you!

Perry Pirsch

NawlinWiki, would you mind pasting the former contents of the above page (that you deleted) into my userspace? I'm trying to investigate a conflict of interest problem - Pearbo (talk · contribs), who created that article, is also adding peacock language to the Shane Osborn article, and Mr. Pirsch is Mr. Osborn's legal counsel, according to this. I'm also seeing anon edits from an office in the Nebraska state government. RJASE1 ^Talk 19:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again - here's the COI notice, in case you were curious. Nothing like a little governmental abuse of Wikipedia. RJASE1 ^Talk 20:22, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

deleted article

Hi i posted a article in hebrew, and you deleted it. can i get the code of the article so i can post it in the hebrew wikipedia ? thanks. (the name of the article was: התאונה בצומת אלומיניום) Maorwtf 20:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

deleted Kids Caring 4 Kids

you just deleted an article that i was in the process of working on, and in response to the statement that it was not worthy of being on wikipedia, i was in the process of adding information that would make it such. The founder was recently recognized as one of the United States top 10 youth volunteers, and has raised over $100,000, so if these don't make for a worthy article, then what does? --Cciesemier 02:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stoplight (Cont'd)

1.) Regarding the notability of streetball in general... There is an article on Wikipedia extensively covering streetball. Ipso facto, I would say that streetball is notable.

2.) Regarding the notability of Stoplight, I'll get to that in a moment.

3.) Regarding the unrealistic aspects of Stoplight; the line between reality and fantasy is blurred. Again, I refer to the professional wrestling example. Proper context is required to fully understand the article. If one were to read an article about a wrestler without and understanding of wrestling culture, they might very well regard some of the more outlandish feats as facts (especially because they are described as such in the article). However, it is expected that, when reading the article, a modicum of context is required for it to make sense.

To further my point, we can look at examples describing characters from fictional universes. Their feats are described as if they are reality and based in fact; context is required to know that they are only reality and fact in their own fictional universe. Now, granted, with fictional characters, it is generally explicitly stated at the beginning of the article that "*Soandso* is a character in John Doe's "Book" series." However, again I refer back to the world of professional wrestling. By naming a character as a professional wrestler, it serves at a sort of disclaimer, explaining that the events are only presented as fact within the fictional universe of wrestling.

The same applies to Stoplight. Were one to be unfamiliar with the culture, one may believe that Stoplight truly did burst into flames and float away on the wind, or that he was close to 8 feet tall. However, (and this is a legitimate question and not just rhetoric) to what extent do we need to disclaim elements of fantasy? Streetball theatrics blend fantasy and reality; should we note each time they intersect so that we don't confuse potential newcomers? Or should we follow the lead of the articles on Wikipedia about professional wrestling and assume that an understanding of the "rules", so to speak, is implicit?

4.) The notability of Stoplight: I'm afraid you won't find sources online regarding Stoplight, or much of streetball in general for that matter. However, people, places and things were notable far before the advent of the internet. Just because something is not published on the internet does not imply a lack of notability. In fact, that assumption is inherently racist: the minority groups that generally engage in streetball are not the type of demographic who own/use computers. Thus, their sources of notability are not as easily accessible as others.

That's not to say there aren't sources available. The section "Stoplight's Presumed Death" is transcribed nearly directly from "A-TX Sreetball", a monthly publication that has been in print since 1992. Stoplight has a bio in "Courtz", a quarterly that documents rising streetball players and deals with current issues. The Courtz bio is where much of the biographical information was obtained. Granted, these are independent magazines and thus lack major mainstream exposure, but just because you can't research something comfortably from your computer desk, cup of coffee in hand, doesn't mean it's not notable.

Finally, this isn't an attempt at promotion. It's written from a neutral point of view, without a marketing or otherwise self-serving interest in mind. It's part of a collective effort to raise awareness of streetball culture.

That being said, I can rewrite the article to ground it in reality and make it sound a little bit less fantastic to the casual reader. Additionally, I can include documented sources that not only indicate Stoplight's notability, but back up the veracity of the article. Is this acceptable?

Re: Stoplight (Cont'd)

Thanks for your reply. The problem I am encountering while trying to rewrite the article is twofold. The first one is easily remedied, I think... I can't find the original source of the deleted article. I think it would probably be easier for both of us if I edited the original rather than doing a complete rewrite. Do you have access to the original, by any chance?

Also, the second problem is that I can't really decide on which perspective to take in the article. Your suggestion of prefacing the article with "Stoplight is a legendary fictional character..." is helpful, but it's not 100% representative of Stoplight's status. Stoplight himself is a real person, but many of his accomplishments and feats are fictionalized. I keep referring back to the professional wrestling analogy because it seems to be what most closely mimics the status of Stoplight. Professional wrestlers are real people but they are more or less actors playing out a part on stage. The wrestling is real, as are the games of basketball that are played, but the theatrics, drama, and choreography are (for the most part) planned in advance.

What about establishing that Stoplight is a persona? Something to the effect of, "Stoplight is a legendary streetball persona who has gone on to perform numerous groundbreaking feats in the fictional culture of streetball?" What I want to establish is that the events take place in reality despite being rooted in fiction. Any suggestions on how to do that in such a way that is consistent with the rest of Wikipedia? StreetballazCrunk 15:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)StreetballazCrunk[reply]

<<If it's a real person who people make up fictional stories about, then make that clear -- and provide sources.>> Precisely. He's a real person who really plays streetball who really had a mother named Serenity DeMichaels who really grew up in Round Rock who then moved to Austin etc. etc. etc. The more spectacular aspects are fictional, but much like a TV show, the "fans" (or, in this case, followers of streetball culture) are not the ones who invent the fiction. Thus, I would not be able to use Wikipedia to "add to the legend" any moreso than a fan of a TV show would be able to use Wikipedia to expand that TV show's universe. The fiction exists and is ongoing, but it is not fan-created. Either way, I have sufficient sources to document his notability. If there's a way I could get back the original article before it was deleted, I will edit the article to include documentation and clarify Stoplight's status. 66.69.198.113 17:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)StreetballazCrunk[reply]

Ytricity

Its real!!! It was on the news!! hows it nonsence. also wh do admins always say welcom i've been here 4 a month or 2. DC

I cud search BBC News. If i sho u teh link can it be re-uploaded (on wikias it says somat about bein able 2 do that). DC

here. DC

Though it may have been whytricity DC

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brazilian F.C.

Hi, I noticed when looking at this article, that Middlesex County Football League (which though it is the overall league, may not be any better in terms of its own notability) has a number of other teams listed. I was wondering if you'd seen them, or if you wanted to add them to the original nomination? FrozenPurpleCube 23:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eclipsed by Sanity

Hi, you just recently deleted my webpage for Eclipsed by Sanity, (a band) I was just wondering why you did it. It was as neutral as I could get and straightforward. Why was it deleted? -Luca

Communications X by Simcityfreak4

Hi, I just made this article and you seem to have deleted it. It was about as straight forward as all of the other companies on Wikipedia. Just wondering why you did. Brian 05:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan Lueck

I made the Dylan Lueck page because he IS AN ACTOR!!!!!!! Even see for yourself, i am a fan of his, but you need to realize The Dylan Show is coming out in Oct. 2007. I didnt do this in response to any person I know, i know him as a rising child star.

REASONS TO CREATE AND LEAVE ALONE THE DYLAN LUECK PAGE: He has played over 20 venues for comedy The Dylan Show is coming out Oct. 20 2007 He has actually proposed to fox, nbc, abc, mtv and more the new show Manage Inc. He is currently filming a movie entitled Sweet Dreams. He also Has a myspace account for his show, if you need to check that out for further info.

Was it fair use?

While deleting magazine covers Image:Shahrukhkhan 200502 ng.jpg and Image:Shahrukhkhan 20041011 time.jpg which I had uploaded and subsequently marked for deletion, you have marked it as unused fair use image as your deletion comment.

Actually here the first image had been marked Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion as it was not considered fair use. After my arguments there fell through, I agreed with the policy and marked this and the other image for speedy deletion mentioning "not considered fair use". And removed the image from its sole page Shah Rukh Khan. The second image had been deleted once earlier since it was not considered fair use. But I uploaded once again, only after I had made a proper mention of the cover image in the said article.

I also removed a few other images in entries of living people from their pages, since such non free images are not considered fair use.

So my question is, was it fair use after all?--PremKudva^Talk 06:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PMPTNT having a Hard time with a KGB Troll

Hey this is PMPTNT i understand why you deleted Fred Funcken but some one destroyed an article i wrote on The Second Chechen War, it was a good article too about the helicopters russians have lost in the war. I didnt save it but i want it to be in there. It is important for people to see this is a real war, and that Millions of dollars worth of equipment and hundreds of lives are being lost there. Please help me get it back.

Ok Update i just reput it in it was removed by this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alaexis it says hes a KGB troll, that sounds bad! Maybe he deleted it because i didnt put in my sources, i will be happy to do so, just im new to wikipedia and am still learning.

Update again, i put in refrences maybe he will stop now.

Thanks PMPTNT

Adre'anna Jackson

Adre'anna is notable, she was all over the news, she was like a second Jessica Lunsford. Please don't delete it. It is a perfectly good article too. --SWEETCARMEN♥ 02:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help please!

Hi, sorry to bother you, I saw your name at the top of the deletion log. Can you delete the redirect pages RuneScape and Talk:RuneScape under CSD G6 so I can fix a good-faith but erroneous move, please? I'd wait for someone clearing CAT:CSD to get round to it, but I can't stay up any longer. Thanks! CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 02:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah no, thank you! :-) CaptainVindaloo ^{t c e} 02:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doingerous

Well, it seems you deleted a well hard worked article. It seems you really do lack a life and a sense of humour. Really, I do pitty you. Your actions were absolutely uncalled for without any justification. — Rameenv (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

McGonigel's Mucky Duck Pub

I guess if I don't login and check WP every single day, it is my own bad luck that a page I authored gets deleted in <2 days from time of nomination.

And people wonder why I think the deletion system of WP is broken beyond repair. The deletionista's score another one. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 06:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion rationales

Make sure that there's no content in the deletion rationale that could itself be problematic. You've been leaving the first few sentences of the article in, which could potentially cause difficulties later on down the road (it already has, in other cases), or also be beneficial for spammers. DS 13:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted images of Guatemalan churches

Why did you decide to delete those inmages they are not violating any copyrights?Drjmarkov 09:34, 11 June 2007 (UTC)drjmarkov[reply]

Reason for page Deletion?

I was wondering why my article entry, Wreckless Media Radio was deleted. I provided several notable accomplishments and kept neutral throughout the article. I got all of my information straight from the hosts of the show. What else would need to be done for this article to be accepted? Thank you for you time.

Undeletion request

Hello Nawlin, About a month ago, I TfD'ed two templates: {{Edmonton Oilers seasons}} and {{Vancouver Canucks seasons}} as I had incorporated them into other templates. It was later decided that the main templates (ie: {{Vancouver Canucks}} wouldn't include links to each season article. As such, these two templates, along with {{Calgary Flames seasons}} are no longer redundant, and I would like to un-delete all three of them. Given you were the deleting admin for the first two templates, I figured I would ask you for this service. Thank you very much, Resolute 00:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, much appreciated. Resolute 19:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Un-deletion request for LUMA page

I just found that you notified me on May 23rd that my page for the band "LUMA" (Life.Unity.Music.Amplified) was deleted because it was "unworthy" Wikipedia material. This is inequitable for two reasons: One, there are a plethora of Wiki pages made for bands with one tenth the amount of information I put for this band, which are left intact and undisputed. Two, this band has had international recognition, including being on a internationally selling compilation CD through Starbucks and Hearmusic, and plays shows at such clubs as the Blue Note in New York City. The Saxophone player has been well known in the industry for over 30 years, through various projects in New York and in San Francisco, for jazz, punk, and world music. And the band has a following in the state of New York, and other various areas. I find this deletion to be an abuse of power and a waste of time spent deleting an article that clearly did not need to be removed.

The image I used, which is their actual album cover, was deleted. I created that image myself for the band, as the son of the saxophonist, I helped to create the original album artwork in real life, so I had access to this image because I created it. I wasn't sure how to prove that I had the rights to use the image. Again, a poor reason for deletion.

If this article is still available to be restored, I would appreciate it being put back, and if editing is in order I will be happy to do so.

If the article is gone, I am disappointed in Wikipedia, as the deletion of a perfectly valid article is off-putting, and makes me not want to contribute any further to this community. I was planning on expanding this article and found it was deleted.

I hope this article can be restored as it was surely worthy of Wikipedia and took me a while to do. Thank you. - Max

Thank you for your response. I understand your points, though Wikipedia's issue with the conflict of interest may not actually always a be conflict, but maybe just an "intensified interest", which could actually make the articles more in depth and informational than a purely reserved academic overview.

I am editing the article and will hopefully have it up in sufficient fashion according to the rules soon. Thank you again for the text from the page.

Article deletion

Sorry about not adding my references, I was going to do it this morning. It was just late and I had spent so much time researching I needed to sleep. Here is the list of references for your records if you can re-instate it. Otherwise I will just do it sometime when I can spend a good 12-15 hours on it. Thanks.

References:

Bad Stain Fanzine:

    - Issues #1-4, 6-7, 9-12.

Unspeakable Thoughts Fanzine:

    - Issues #2-3, 5-6, 8-9, 19, 23.

"Valley of the Spun" by Mike Wilson

"The History of the West Side Weasels" - DVD

www.badstainrecords.com/chasejourney

www.badstainrecords.com/chasestain

www.badstainrecords.com/dirtylaundry

www.badstainrecords.com/non

www.garageband.com/chasestain

www.garageband.com/numbersonnapkins

www.myspace.com/chasestain

www.myspace.com/badstainrecords

www.myspace.com/numbersonnapkins

www.myspace.com/dirtylaundry

Removal of article

MotherMe Inc. is a supporter of community based social programs such as the Forth worth Dallas Birthing Project, a non profit org. helping expectant teen minorities. The creation of the article was a starting point in publishing these types of outworking's which are changing the fabric of birth in the US and around the world.

The creation of the article was exerted with respect for the general feel for the wikipedia approach. We are also looking for ways to add content to subject matter related to birth and doulas in the wiki common. While doing so, it does not seem necessary to act with regret just because a link is to a commercial site. Or is it a hard and fast rule that only non-commercial links are included in wikipedia posts?

An example of this is I went to the main page and today there was a promotion of the article for Gwen Stefani. Gwen Stefani is a business attached to a person and the first external link is to http://www.gwenstefani.com/. Is this not a self promoting personal site. Yet just as MotherMe Inc. empowers women to have the birth they want, Gwen Stefani uses record sales to allow people to listen to her music.

Is it possible that with the plethora of spam that must be cleaned up as a matter of daily administration, the quick deletion of the MotherMe Inc article was not thought thru or researched? Is there some sort of example you can provide of Corporations with wiki articles that I could follow as i resubmit an article on this topic? i looked at other corporate articles before submitting. I also did not receive any form of communication questioning the intent of the creation of this article. Since the article was released to the common license of wiki, a discussion would have been welcomed from my point of view.

I believe my last submittal included information of non profit and certifying organizations that relate to doulas and doula training. I welcome your response so my next submittal will be open to improvement rather then blanket rejection. Ralphie 21:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your assistance in helping me reach my goal. I do not see where "an article that is blatant advertising should have inappropriate content as well" applies. Where was the inappropriate content?

My goal is to make more information available to women who want to become doulas and for women who want to consider using a doula. Wikipedia deserves to be enhanced with this type of information. I made a new article following the example set by other articles where the topic was a business with Inc in it's name. This new submission follows the pattern whereby these entities have found their business mentioned with the wikipedia space. I hope you will consider reinstating the MotherMe Inc article.Ralphie 14:09, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Man, I see a lot of people get frustrated with deletion of their articles. Sorry you need to deal with all of that. I will get additional info and list other sources. There are a few books and a documentary I listed? Are those reliable? Or are websites like garageband.com reliable? Sorry to ask, I understand you are very busy. I just have about 20 contributions I wanted to put up. AZ has a strong art scene and music scene and there are venues, galleries, record companies, bands, artists, and even a few museams that I noticed are not listed. They are all notable and I feel that people would be interested in the history behind them, but I don't want to put time into making pages if they are not appreciated or not permitted. I will read up on the criteria and guidelines. Do you recommend not putting up a page for Chase Stain? He is well known in Phoenix, but I guess perhaps not many people know of his books or music. Although I did notice that his current band has a page at wikipedia. Just curious. Sorry to bug you and thanks for any advice you can give. No rush on a response, I totally understand you are very busy. Thanks, Brian LeMaster

Un-deletion request for FuzzyMemories page

Hi, I noticed that my page was deleted due to lack of notability. I was in a hurry and I did not flesh out the article as much when I created it. I can do so now and provide the necessary information to show how the article is relevant. I have edited the article to this - if you can restore it, please do.

FuzzyMemories

FuzzyMemories is a popular YouTube video channel that specializes in Classic TV recordings from the Chicagoland area. Since October 2006, its videos have been viewed over a million times, as well as featured on WGN-TV Morning News. It is most well-known for being the first site to unearth and present a complete, high-quality recording for the Max Headroom Pirating Incident online.

The channel also features classic commercials, Station ID's, Bumpers, and other material.

External links

Thanks.

Hi again. I was wondering if you can help me out and take a look at the page I just re-created for Chase Stain. He does meet guidelines for an artist according guidelines listed on Wikipedia, and this time I put my sources and even have e-mailed his publisher to have him proof read the info to make sure all is accurate. If anything is inaccurate I will change it immediately. If you can take a look and proof read it, let me know if the info is acceptable. No rush, I'm going to start working on an article for garageband.com next (is that acceptable). Thanks!

The Nine Planets

Hi - I notice you speedy deleted The Nine Planets (a while ago). I'm pretty sure I also created an article about this site (several years ago - I can't remember the exact name and it seems to be gone as well). In any event, this site is actually quite notable, see the author's collected list of awards [1]. It's (quite rightly) mentioned in our List of websites founded before 1995. If you'd undelete it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 20:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking some more, the article I created was Nine Planets (created before I had a user ID!). -- Rick Block (talk) 20:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rick,

I went back and looked at the text of The Nine Planets when I deleted it in Dec. 2006. It was a very short article that basically said "This is a website about the Solar System. It was started in 1994." There was no mention of any awards or other indication of notability.

Given that the deleted article was pretty empty, it'd probably be better if you restarted the article from scratch. Make sure to mention the more reliable awards (like the PC Magazine one, for example). Thanks, NawlinWiki 17:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. -- Rick Block (talk) 17:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! NawlinWiki 02:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, a little stubby perhaps, but should be enough to keep it from being deleted. I expect someone will write a book sometime about the early web days (if they haven't already), and this will be one of the sites mentioned. Minus the references, it had at least what would be at least a current day Wikipedia GA class article about each of the major bodies in the Solar System illustrated with (mostly NASA) photos of each one. High capacity web farms were pretty much unknown at the time, so it ended up mirrored all the over place. I've looked for a web reference for the PC Magazine Top 100 award, but it apparently predates the Internet Archive. If I get to a library sometime with magazine archives, I'll add a reference to the hard copy magazine. Thanks for the typo correction. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Active user verification

Hello, NawlinWiki. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:WPNN, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on WP:WPNN. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Diez2 23:28, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tree hole article

Hi,

I noticed that you had deleted an article on tree holes, justifying the deletion due to the fact that the article was nonsensical. Tree holes are important habitats for many species of animals; see the following articles: Ceratopogonidae, Common Merganser, Toucan, La Crosse encephalitis, Phytotelma, and Chironomidae. I am going to start new "tree hole" article, but I assure you it will not be the ridiculous "one-liner" that you deleted previously. Squamate 18:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A tree throw is a hole in the soil, left when a tree falls over or otherwise is pulled out of the soil. A tree hole, by contrast, is a hole in a living tree - a special kind of Phytotelma. The redirect is incorrect - these are two distinct habitats, two different ecological niches. I'm going to fix the incorrect redirect (this needs a disambiguation page) and then make a new article on holes in living tree. Squamate 13:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Back

Is it just me, or would wikipedia be a much better place if , instead of rubbish articles being "speedily deleted" and lost forever, users worked together to help make articles "wiki-worthy". I know you all think that my articles and messages are a bit of a joke, just like everything else in my stinking life, but I would still appreciate a reply to this.(Lastofthewolves 11:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Sorry about this message, I know I'm stupid(Lastofthewolves 11:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)).[reply]

Need some help

Hey man can you help me get a better verison of my David Lightman artical out there? I think there should be an artical about Lightman, Wargames is a well known movie and there are plenty of articals about movie characters.

MFX

You removed an article about MFX, one of the most notable demoscene groups. There was no vote about this. Why? Mstuomel 10:25, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dramatic Chipmunk

As the author of this article I feel it should have been classified as AfD rather than speedy deletion. I believe that an argument can been made for retaining the article, but you never gave me (or anybody else) an opportunity to discuss its merits or make changes that would have strengthened it. The key issue - it seems - is how or why the subject is notable. I thought that point was clear in the opening paragraph where it mentions that the Dramatic Chipmunk is an example of viral phenomena. I included links and references to support this point, and would have added more in due course. I am fully aware that the Dramatic Chipmunk video clip per se is trivial, but the manner in which the video was disseminated and plagiarised exemplifies a significant social phenomenon. This aspect of the article could have been further developed. Believe me, my intentions were serious not frivolous. Would you reconsider these arguments if the article was recreated? APB-CMX 16:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page

Hey, I'm sure you didn't want this on your user page, but after reading it over I'm not sure if you want it on your talk page either. Anyway, it's in history if you want to read it. — Alex^(U|C|E) 06:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was just wondering why the template {{User:UBX/1337-neg1}} was deleted. The reason message was ‘r3 content was: '{{db|If page is transcluded it will put the userpage in CAT:LUT, otherwise the redirect is pointless the main page should just be used. No one would '...'’, but here is a screenshot of what it was few days before it was deleted:

{{User:UBX/1337-neg1}}, as of 21 June 2007

I cannot see any problems with the version shown here. Chortos‑2 15:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanks for the fast reply. :) Everything is clear now… Chortos‑2 20:07, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What qualifies as "asserting notability"?

Hello. You just deleted an article I listed for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreamer's exile). While I obviously don't object to the speedy deletion, I would like to understand better what qualifies something as "asserting notability" or not doing so. Is there any more verbose description beyond that at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion A7? For example, while I have personal knowledge that the subject at Cathal Coughlan meets music notability guidelines (former member of a band that had at least 2 major label releases), I don't see where someone unfamiliar with him would see the article as "asserting notability". If you could shed some light, I'd certainly be grateful.--Evil1987 17:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the speedy response! That makes perfect sense and I should have figured it out myself.--Evil1987 18:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why was Blade Mistress deleted?

I wrote that Wiki very thoughtfully and had several reliable resources as you can see by going to it once you change it back. I don't see any reason a Wikipedia page about one of the most popular MMORPG games out there was deleted. If you doubt that it has any importance or significance just go to the Blade Mistress forums and say BM is gay, trust me youll get a response.

Of The I

Hi, I'm the promotional manager for the band Of The I; a band who you took off wikipedia last night since you seem to have established that they are not "notable" enough. I beg to differ; they have had over 60,000 views on Myspace (Myspace even shut them down because they were getting too many views a day at one point). On the site demonoid.com; over 10,000 people have downloaded their E.P., over 5,000 people have downloaded the E.P. songs on mp3.com, over 4,000 plays on Last.fm and the reviews on Jamendo speak for themselves. And this has occurred since late March! That is a phenomenal jump towards spreading music, more then I've ever seen an independent and unsigned band achieve. Also not to mention that the ridiculous amount of positive feedback, speaks towards an E.P. that was recorded in a tiny flat in London, without any professional assistance, and this was done by the 20-year old lead singer Jordan Davis. This band is the first band to willingly appear on a mass-downloading (torrent) site's front page, in order to prove that p2p networking has benefits for the music industry as well, and Of The I pioneered this idea by getting almost 100,000 people to listen to their E.P. in a few months. Please reconsider the "notability" of this band so they can appear on the best thing that ever happened to the internet: Wikipedia. Regards,

Lewis Stevens, Of The I webmaster@ofthei.com

Sources: http://www.myspace.com/ofthei http://www.mp3.com/ofthei http://www.virb.com/ofthei http://www.jamendo.com/4617 http://www.demonoid.com http://www.last.fm/music/Of+the+I

Slow Down

did you check this person out before you added you're speedy delete. he is is a known film maker who is also part of a news story that recived national attention. As I don't know how to add the tempalte you sent me I am removing your template. If you want to AFD this article I would be fine with that but I don't see the need to make this article a speedy delete.--The Emperor of Wikipedia & Protector of Wiktionary 04:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Google the name and then AFD it if you want but do not speedy delete my article just because you can.--The Emperor of Wikipedia & Protector of Wiktionary 04:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK now it has a link so you can can AFD the article or leave it alone.--The Emperor of Wikipedia & Protector of Wiktionary 04:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nikitow

they aren't my band, they're my brother's band... but thanks anyway for making it so friggen hard for any band to make it into the "Almighty WikiPedia", i read the guidelines, and i think its bullshit that they have to win a major award before they can appear on wikipedia? if this isn't true, then i suggest you take a look at the criteria

Pearl McKay

I had actually tagged it for A7, the guy nuked the tag though. [2] Kwsn^(Ni!) 06:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok

Ok, i'll use the sandbox --90.128.11.42 18:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Hey,

I got my page deleted about a Young Enterprise company, just wondering if you can explain why, in more simple terms than:

The article Ace creations has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki 14:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC

Cheers.

Tomatocow

What the hell was that? I follow Wiki's own stupid rules and posted the hang on tag. If you would have given me a few freaking minutes, I could have expanded the article. What is wrong with you people? RTexasUSA

OK, so I'd like to nominate about 50 other articles for deletion that are less notable than the one I was working on. I'll go to their pages and make a note. I expect to see their deleted immediately as well. Thanks for your help. RTexasUSA

Islam is Not for Me

What do you think - time for an AfD yet? Check out the long-winded discussion I've had with the original author on the talk page. I don't think I'm going to convince him of the POV issue. Realkyhick 03:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Producer Laura

I already submitted a better article but what would satisfy the requirements? Producer Laura is an on air talent on par with Steve Covino and he has a page. What can i do?

Deletion of Virtual Private Communities

My question is that the term is important to the social network community and will be used and is happening on many sites, so I do not understand the deletion of the site it is a topic that should be discuss since it is the next generation of what has been started with sites such as wikipedia. I would like to understand the specific of why the page was removed. I reviewed your deletion log and I would suggest if you use words you learn the meaning of them

neologism content was: 'With the explosion of social networks with millions of people on sites such as myspace[3], facebook[4], and...')

Neologism is a word, term, or phrase which has been recently created ("coined") — often to apply to new concepts, to synthesize pre-existing concepts,
or to make older terminology sound more contemporary. Neologisms are especially useful in identifying inventions, new phenomena, or old ideas which have

taken on a new cultural context. The term "e-mail", as used today, is an example of a neologism.

The reference of VPC's as a neologism is fine but whether or not it exists in wikipedia it should be noted that it has nothing to do with current social networks it is a new concept versus trying to relate older terminology as more contemporary..

I saw your post and I will develop the idea on different sites and come back I guess, I had thought that wikipedia was a place where the development of concepts would be sought after I guess I was wrong.

thanks

Ace Creations

I had a page deleted about Ace Creations, it was deleted because it "wasnt notable" they are notable because they won best company in South Yorkshire and represented South Yorks in the regional finals of Young Enterprise, i think that is notable.

Hy! I dont want to vandalise the articles, but i want to check something, and this was an easy way to get some attention. Would you block this account, please? Thank you!

Young Enterprise

Then how come a company from Young Enterprise, won the same as Ace Creations are allowed a page??

Creag MacAllannaich/Khraeigh

Was wondering if you could tell me what the content of this article was and why it was deleted. Stanley99 21:08, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article was called "Khraeigh" and linked to "List of Scots"

Lindsey Williams

Two references were included in the article + http://lwoil.com/ Which I wanted to add. I really don't why deletion is an option on any collected and rewriten information. This just points out that Wikipedia isn't for free speech and definately don't want to stimulate its contributors. --Skinkie 03:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]