User talk:Nathanquib

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Nathanquib, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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May 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 23:26, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #73608

closed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:28, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is important, but I will note that this user was informed multiple times that they shouldn’t write about themselves, but despite volunteer advice on VRTS, they still created the page. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:33, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welp, Nathanquib, you didn't heed good advice? What you wrote in the UTRS ticket contradicts what Illusion Flame has written. You will not be unblocked to write about yourself, I'd say. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:43, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but I should clarify. When they insisted on writing about themselves, I did say they could use the AFC process. So I guess I did technically say they could write about themselves. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well then what they wrote at UTRS makes sense. WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY covers the matter thoroughly. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:50, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, we delete promotional content on sight. I tend to warn autobiography creators before blocking. Blocking on sight is the more common practice. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was an accident though, I didn't know that. Lot's of people writing their self here. This is why I try to reach the team if I'm allowed too but no responses. I did try my best to understand your policy. Please unblock me and I won't do it again. Nathanquib (talk) 01:55, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the VRT user handing their case, I would support an unblock with Anna on writing about any content they have a COI with. My discussion with then makes me believe they are trying their best to follow policies, in good faith. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright Nathanquib (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You say you are a "valuable contributor" but all of your edits have only been about yourself. Per the autobiography policy it isn't absolutely forbidden for people to write about themselves, but it is highly discouraged. This is in part because people naturally write favorably about themselves, and Wikipedia strives for a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, it is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it is notable as Wikipedia defines it. It is very difficult for people to do this about themselves, as it requires setting aside what one knows about themselves and all materials they and their associates put out, and only writing based on what others say about them. I personally have never, in my many years here, seen someone succeed in writing about themselves, though I'm sure it's happened- the point is that it's rare. Writing a new article is difficult even without being the subject itself. We usually recommend that new users first edit existing articles, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content- we also have a new user tutorial.

I am unwilling to unblock you if, in the short term, the only thing you are interested in doing is writing about yourself- I would want to see a history of good edits in other areas, demonstrating your knowledge of relevant Wikipedia policies(especially notability and sourcing) before permitting you to contribute about yourself. What other topics might you edit about? 331dot (talk) 09:25, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for understanding, I do not have anything to edit yet, but I’m willing to go back here in the near future once there is a notability and sourcing. But please unblocked me and after that I will just leave it in silence, please 🙏. I already apologise many times and it won’t happen again, I understand that I can’t write about myself or anyone else since you already told me not too and I will not do it again. Please just warn me first, it was my first time here. Nathanquib (talk) 10:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will note that there is a small inaccuracy in the unblock request when the user says “ I tried my best to ask the team if promotional content was allowed, but I did not receive a response.” I replied to the user through VRTS with the following

It's also important to realise that Wikipedia strongly discourages articles written by the subjects themselves or by others close to a subject because of the difficulty in writing objectively about yourself, your family, or your work. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography> for our guidelines on writing about yourself or topics you are personally involved with. While keeping in mind conflict of interest issues, please note that if someone does create an article about you, you should feel more than welcome to edit the article's Talk page to ensure that each piece of information is factual and complying with our "Biography of Living Persons" policy. This policy can be viewed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons.

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@Illusion Flame Nathan had another VRTS ticket running. The email provider for Nathan's other email address was rejecting our emails. I've linked the tickets together. Feel free to handle it as you wish, though it would be useful to make sure the email problem is resolved. Cabayi (talk) 10:03, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, What email are you talking about? Nathanquib (talk) 10:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've responded to the other ticket, though it's rather redundant at this point. Cabayi (talk) 10:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

...and it got rejected by your email provider for a third time. :-( Cabayi (talk) 10:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where? Maybe it’s a wrong email. Nathanquib (talk) 11:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am interpreting your removal of your unblock request as a withdrawal of it. If there are no edits that you wish to make at this time, there is no need to remove the block, as blocks only prevent editing. If you later find an edit you wish to make, you may request unblock at that time; there is no deadline for this, you may take all the time you need. 331dot (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I won’t do any edits anymore since I might break another one of your policy. I will just leave it in silence now. But can I still request for Vanishing thingy? I thought there is a delete option here but nope, lol! I’m new here and confused lots of page and button to explore. Nathanquib (talk) 10:58, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sad to hear. Basically, not writing about yourself or any subject with which you have a conflict of interest sounds like an easy rule to follow. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, But I didn't know since I ask many times, but now I know that I can't write about myself or any subject, I apologize for that, I'm really sorry. But can I still request for vanishing request though while I'm on block? I don't want people to see this chat or anywhere else, search engine might index it, lol! Nathanquib (talk) 20:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vanishing is not a way to avoid sanctions or blocks. I doubt you will be vanished now that you are blocked. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 21:13, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are not eligible for vanishing as your account is not in good standing, because it is blocked. If you ever intend to edit in the future, you need to get this account unblocked. 331dot (talk) 21:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How can I unblocked this account? I'm not gonna write or editing something. I just want to fix this problem. Please unblock me Nathanquib (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to unblock you if you aren't going to edit, as blocks only prevent editing. If you aren't going to edit, there is nothing more to do here. 331dot (talk) 22:27, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can I write on the scratch but practice only, but I won't post it or take it in review. I'm gonna write about Newspaper/emails, Note I read the Help: "Your first article" and It is not promotional or talking about myself. I also want to comments on other Wikipedias article just to comment, can I do that or no? Nathanquib (talk) 23:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I said Emails but not talking about business and stuff, just a draft of explain ing about emails but on practice scratch. Please give me opportunity, I'm being careful now. Nathanquib (talk) 23:12, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We won't unblock you to just edit your sandbox for practice. We have an article about E-mail. If you have contributions you want to make to it, please make an unblock request. 331dot (talk) 12:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh, I have a contribution to make E-mail. Please I request for unblock Nathanquib (talk) 21:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to request unblock, you must follow the instructions in the block notice, as you did with the request you subsequently withdrew. 331dot (talk) 21:46, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Nathanquib (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have a contribution to make E-Mail. Please I request for unblocked Nathanquib (talk) 06:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This doesn't really make sense. I suspect your English skills are not good enough to contribute to English Wikipedia. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I believe the user was trying to say that they wanted to contribute to the article about email, but I agree with NRP that your English skills could improve. I suggest contributing to the Simple English Wikipedia which may be easier for you to contribute to and understand. You would have to follow all of the rules there, though. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]