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Thanks for the note. Certainly any topic can be divided into its important subtopics, and conversely any subtopical stub article which has yet to be developed (or is unlikely to be developed) can be merged into a larger one. My feeling is that having articles be distinguished from each other requires that there be enough material to warrant the split, and that that material be non-redundant enough to be counted. Id have no problem with spitting it back, if you like, but I would suggest developing it further first. -St|eve07:38, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Does not the following text, from the article on Catholic Encylopedia, permit Wikipedia users to use material from that site? This page also permits it (insofar as the content may need to be modified for style/NPOV reasons, not for copyright reasons).
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If this is not accurate, perhaps we can contact an administrator for deliberation. If necessary, I can glady modify the text in the fashion prescribed in the above link. Thanks for your help. --Dpr21:29, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
NH, thanks for your response. As I alluded to by citing Wikipedia:Catholic_Encyclopedia_topics, you will notice on this list that there are literally thousands of Wikipedia article composed precisely in the same manner as St. Mechtilde. This method is approved, legitimated, and ecouraged by Wikipedia. --Dpr00:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Thought it best to write here rather than spread across three discussion pages. I had been cleaning up the Sentinel page as nothing seemed to be happening with it. My main interest / knowledge is in the diesels and I had intended setting up a page for the Sentinel diesel locos separate from the steam loco/wagon page.
I would say all the overlap between Sentinel (Steam), Sentinel (diesel), Thomas Hill and Yorkshires (my main interest) is best reduced to a note on the business being transferred. Thus all the details from the TH article on the YE closure are covered on the YE page already, but a entry on the page TH concentrating on TH and the sale of Spares for YE locos and overhauls.
In reply to your question, Rolls Royce bought Sentinel, stopped steam loco production, started building diesels called 'Sentinel' then after 5 years changed the name to 'Rolls Royce'.
Thanks - it's importantr to note that while his supporters have had allegations made against them no one has actually called George an anti-semite. Unbehagen18:23, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Methane
I just wanted to say thanks for the great job you did rewriting and significantly improving the article on methane. Edgar18120:00, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Nick. Every time I see your signature I think you are involved with the British health system...is that a clever case of advertising? ;-) --Stephan Schulz22:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
No merely one of those things. My parents claim it was totally unintentional but my mum does now (although not when I was born) work as a Health promotion Officer for the NHS!--NHSavage22:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
RE: Ozone
You have some nice diagrams on the ozone article. Perhaps you could also include an example of how ground-level ozone affects pollution (an aerial photo of smog in big cities shouldn't be too hard to find). -- King of♥♦♣♠01:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. Not sure about this. The problem is that in smog you don't actually see the ozone - you see nitrogen dioxide (brown) and the effects of particulates (haze). Like the article says ozone is colourless (which is not to say it is not important, just that a photo doesn't show it.) Again I could probably find some relevant satellite measurements of ozone. On the other hand is this not really more appropriate in the Tropospheric ozone article? --NHSavage07:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Top 1000 scientists
I agree with your comments wholeheartedly.I think any such list is open to controversies as the inclusions and omissions are bound to favour some and ignore others.I can think of at least a 100 other names which I think should have merited inclusion but I accept that only 1000 could find a place.A physicist for example may not appreciate the inclusion of a biologist and vice versa.I a a biochemist and feel that people like Harper should have found a place.To consider teh article for deletion in my view would be entirely inappropriate.I feel the whole exercise was a meaningful one and to the best of my knowledge the first of its kind.I am gald you concur.(Vr06:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC))
Hi Mr.Savage
Further to my last note,I have browsed through the book in the Roayl Society and the Royal Institution Libraries reference sections.You will find my comments on the talk page.Regards(Vr06:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC))
Hi again
I had corrected the Altounyan link and included the bit about Ludmilla Jordanova.I am not quite sure why these were removed.Any idea?(Vr05:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC))
My apologies!The problem lay with my computer which for some bizarre reason had refused to display the latest contributions.It mysteriously corrected itself after a few hours.My apologies once again.(Vr06:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC))
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Can u explain in a little detail what mistake i made pls?And how did u find out that I made it?
And how did u contact me?--bb52 16:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)Brainblaster52
I'll answer your last question first as it is the easiest - "how did u contact me?". All registered wikipedians have a User page (yours is User:Brainblaster52 - which is a red link as you have not put anything on it) and a talk page - User talk:Brainblaster52. I left a message on your talk page.
"how did u find out that I made it?". When you are logged in all pages have a tab at the top with the word "watch" on. If you click this then the page is added to your watchlist. Then when you click on "my watchlist" it shows all changes to any article on your watchlist. Below is an example of what the top of my watchlist looks like at the moment. You can see that Global Warming has just been edited by Bikeable and I have just edited Wildfire. You can click on diff to see what differences the last edit made or history to see all the edits to the article and compare different versions. I have ozone in my watchlist.
"Can u explain in a little detail what mistake i made pls?".
Your first edit said that ozone is produced by lightning. The mechanism you gave (splitting of oxygen molecules into 2 atoms) is not at all important. The ozone produced by lightning is due to the production of NO (Nitric oxide) which can then produce ozone via reactions with light and hydrocarbons (see tropospheric ozone).
Second edit. There were a few reasons why I did not agree with your edits. First of all the natural production and destruction you added all happen in the atmosphere so this information belongs in the Ozone in Earth's atmosphere section. Also the production mechanism you mentioned (oxygen photolysis) is correct but only important for the ozone layer and not low level ozone. The destruction section is again focussed on stratospheric ozone. I also felt that this level of detail was too much for this article (the Ozone layer article has much more detail). However this is where Wikipedia gets interesting. I am not right just because I know more about wikipedia and have been around longer. You are free to add back in the extra detail. However when things get controversial (very common!) it is a good idea to post a message about why you are making changes on the articles talk page.
You might also like to know that to add your signature you can just type --~~~~ or press the button with a signature on. If you want to see your edit before you post it (always a good idea!) press "Show preview" before "Save page".
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Just to let you know, I added a section about history to this article and nominated it for the Did you know? section on the Main Page here. It looks like it's got a good chance! bsrboy (talk) 20:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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"Eh? What?" - it's an article you had doubts about in 2005. (The mills of Wikipedia grind slow, but...) It's at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tillery after a history of doubts and some dubious edits. And two editors who currently can only find mirrors... Peridon (talk) 20:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know - sorry I didn't reply earlier! That's one from a period when I was doing wikification of articles, possibly I should have pursued my doubts more!--NHSavage (talk) 10:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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As you are the author of Origins of acid rain.svg I was hoping you would be happy to alter the graphic so as to include Hydrofluoric Acid, HF, as an air pollutant. It is certainly a pollutant of the same degree as Sulphuric Acid and is even more hazardous and corrosive. It is of increasing relevance as almost all oil refining is now using HF as a catalyst rather than H2SO4. as well as breaking hydrocarbons into shorter more useful lengths cracking results in substitution of Hydrofluoric acid for hydrogen in hydrocarbon which produces HF after combustion, this HF is then present in the exhaust. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.95.33 (talk) 15:46, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
I am afraid I did not create this graphic, I merely uploaded it from an EPA website (see the description page for the original URL). I am not really able to change it. Some other wikipedian may be able to do this but before you request this change, I would encourage you to find some references for the importance of HF as an important source of acid rain. I have not come across this being described as a significant part of acid rain so I would be interested to know more. Please also remember to sign your posts on talk pages. You might also want to create an account to make it easier to edit pages and discuss things. To sign a post simply click the symbol that looks like a pen writing something at the top of the box you type into. --NHSavage (talk) 10:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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I have no strong feelings on this - I came across it on a page of Orphaned articles and tried to de-orphan it. It seems that this sparked the deletetion - so be it.--NHSavage (talk) 19:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Culm Measures
Are you sure that Chagford is within the Culm Measures area? I don't have sources to hand, but my memory of Devon's geography is that the Culm Measures cover the area north of Dartmoor - the Hatherleigh / Holsworthy area, and probably further east - rather than the area immediately adjoining the moor itself. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
I don't know, but it's certainly the right location. I think I'll add it with the existing caption - it doesn't define it either as part of, or not part of, the Grassland itself. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:30, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
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Randomly got nosy and checked your contribs - noticed your interest in all matters Culm. I'd imagine you can figure out what this map shows? :)
I could easily integrate that data as an overlay onto a political/relief base map, but I'm not entirely sure best way to do that. Any thoughts you have would be appreciated as there's hundreds of similar files I could make. One irritating thing is I can estimate the area, but that's classic OR.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
I can even work out where my house is from that...
I think for the River Culm article at least, just what you have overlaid on a relief base map would illustrate the river much more nicely that what I have on there so far. I think that we do not really want it too cluttered. If it has no text at all on it, then the caption can do the explanation and be translated if people want it in other languages. I sympathise about the original research. For Cullompton's history, I am trying to do some research myself. The long term plan is to see if I can get it published in the Devon Historian and then I can cite it. :-) --NHSavage (talk) 19:20, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
And to the right.... Showing both the Exe and the Culm would be somewhat more tricky. Interested in any feedback. For what its worth I'm wondering if relief or plain background is more suitable (these maps are typically on plain backgrounds).--Nilfanion (talk) 22:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
That is exactly what I had in mind. I guess whether you want relief or not depends a bit why you want a map in the first place. For me, it is nice to be able to see the relationship between the topography and the course of the river. However, if you want to put additional information on it, then an unclutter background is probably better. I'll have a think.--NHSavage (talk) 09:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
I guess you can contrast it with this map (which could be better...) This is very focussed on the human geography, not the physical. It shows some of the major settlements, but none of the tributories or the watershed. If you took your map, and removed the topography and then added say Cullompton it would probably a better human geography map. Horses for courses I guess, decide what your course is.--NHSavage (talk) 13:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The Parrett map doesn't appeal to my mind - roads aren't really a natural combination with rivers (and there's a clash in UK cartography between rivers and motorways). Its the settlements that have a stronger relationship to the rivers. The Severn is way too cluttered, while the Thames works well.
I sense there's two options here: One on the drainage basin and tributaries, the other on the main stream and settlements. Both are viable and represent the main two concepts associated with rivers. There are a couple concepts that doesn't quite match with, eg the Tamar as a boundary but that is best described anyway.
I'm inclined towards physical geography for the mass-production I've got lined up - it produces the plain base map other can build on, and is something beyond the capability of most editors. In contrast, most editors could get a plain map of southern England and add some dots to show London, Oxford etc :) The outstanding question really is the inset, as colours between the main relief map and political insert clash somewhat.--Nilfanion (talk) 18:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
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In reply to your question about the relationship of the two towns on the Little Compton page -
As yet unpublished, but here's the evidence:
-As you note, Tiverton is adjacent to both towns.
-There is a Colebrook Woods between Cullompton and Tiverton in England, and Little Compton and Tiverton in the US.
-Several Little Compton families, including Rogers who was the Town Clerk when the town was named, came from within a few miles of Collompton.
And I'm told that Cullompton is pronounced "Compton" - is that true?
thanks for the information. I wouldn't say the town in the UK is pronounced Compton. The closest phonetically now would probably be Cul-ump-tun now but the old spelling was Columpton which if you prouncounced it more phonetically, could shift to Compton especially as the "l" is not really stressed. If you have more details of the families then depending on when the emigrated, I might be able to find them in the UK census. However, this is becoming original research and so not suitable for Wikipedia really. NHSavage (talk) 10:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
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