User talk:Mushy Yank/Lark Kite Moon

Suyunchi

Hello, regarding this edit... Who is the person you quoted? I'm guessing a film critic? Was this a newspaper review or a book or a personal website/blog? I'm sorry, I don't speak uzbek, and would like to clarify why that quote is notable for our other non-uzbek speaking readers...

...and why do I suddenly feel drunk looking at my preview here? lol - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks. I had used the wrong link for the source of the quote. The real source is in English. And the wrong link (still there) was to an Uzbek News website and was an interview with one of the actress. Feel free to remove it if you think it's not helpful.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

No, a review of the film is helpful, but I'm just not sure this one helps to show notability. It appears (please correct me if I am wrong) that this is simply a student's paper about the director himself? That source would be great for expanding Melis Abzalov, but we need one focused on the film itself here. Per WP:NMOVIES, we would need reviews from nationally known critics or film professionals, coverage in independent major publications, if the film has received any rewards, etc. I understand that an Uzbeki film may not have the same major coverage of a Hollywood blockbuster, but I'm not sure being mentioned in a student's school paper about the director does much. This quote is still useful and helpful, just not for the notability concerns. The other sources also appear to be articles written about the actors (from what I can translate), instead of the film itself. Have there been any professional reviews written in a major newspaper (article is discussing/reviewing the film itself), was it shown at any international film festivals, has it received any rewards? What verifiable proof is there that this film is notable enough for its own article? Please don't think I am trying to talk down the film, or your editing, I am only trying to ensure that someone else in the future doesn't come along to say it is not notable enough. Again, WP:NMOVIES shows what all we need, if I have not explained it well enough (sorry, still early in the morning for me). Please feel free to ask if you need anything, I love helping small articles grow whenever possible! - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks, yes, it's an article in a peer-rv publication by a then-PhD student. Regarding the rest, I understand and am rather familiar with those guidelines, but couldn't we consider that the following criterion applies: "The film was successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film producing country, and was produced by that country's equivalent of a "major film studio". Articles on such a film should assert that the film in question was notable for something more than merely having been produced, and if any document can be found to support this, in any language, it should be cited." (The film is a Uzbekfilm production). I think that redirecting to the director would be a pity but if you find it's really better and the page can't stay as such, feel free.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

No no, I was not implying we should redirect to the director's article, I meant the article you cited (the student's journal article) is better used as a ref for the director's wiki article than for this film's wiki article. And suggesting that we could use more information, and verification, showing how important it is since I could not find many sources in english (or translatable) when I did a google search for it. I should have looked at who I was talking to instead of assuming you were a new(er) editor, I did not mean to step on any toes here, I apologize. I was just curious and wanted to learn more myself while trying to protect the article from future deletionists. - Adolphus79 (talk) 21:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely no problem and really no need to apologise! On the contrary, I concur with you the page lacks good in-depth sources. I'll try to find more later, in Russian. Thanks again.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Srikanth Odela

Hi, I noticed that Srikanth Odela isn’t appearing in Google search results for his Wikipedia page. Could you please help me understand why? BubbleWombleBee12 (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, true. Very strange. But I can't explain it either. Ask at the WP:Village Pump, someone might have an idea.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Thankyou for the information, they said [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleWombleBee12 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Sai Rajesh

Hi @Mushy Yank, Can you please check this article Draft:Sai Rajesh? BubbleWombleBee12 (talk) 06:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I left a message on the article talk page. When an article is declined but you think it obviously should have been accepted, maybe talk to the reviewer(s) directly and try to convince them. The subject seems indeed fairly notable, from what I see.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Sahithi Chaganti Notability

Hi @Mushy Yank, I noticed that Sahithi Chaganti has sung more than 100 songs and as per Hindustan times she nominated for Best Female Playback Singer at 12th South Indian International Movie Awards. After checking she doesn't have good articles. I'm attaching some of the articles. [2][3][4][5][6][7] Could you check her notability? BubbleWombleBee12 (talk) 06:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, one nomination and only one independent article about her (Deccan Chronicle) do not seem enough so far. Best,-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Soorat Aur Seerat

I see quite a few sources worth adding. Since I don't have desktop access, could you please add something? Kailash29792 (talk) 03:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC)  Done (the title is also that of a film project by Raj Kapoor.)-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you add a plot to Draft:Boy Meets Boy (2021 film)?

Not sure if the film is notable. DareshMohan (talk) 02:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, DareshMohan. The film is clearly notable. I haven’t watched it, though. Will see what I can do.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Chhote Nawab (1961)

Hello @Mushy Yank, I hope you're doing well. I need your assistance with the above draft. I assume you're good at finding sources. You can also refer to the discussion here. Thanks for your consideration. C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 07:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, C1K98V, later, maybe. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Which tool you use to expand the Google Books source? Thank you. --C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 09:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Just the standard Add-source script on top of the page (Monobook or Vector skin). Maybe iyou can set it in your Preferences/gadget section. I forgot how it appeared there. You just paste the link and the script can format it, in general.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Notability of Draft:Ashok Galla

Hello @Mushy Yank, Greetings. Can you check this draft Draft:Ashok Galla? BubbleWombleBee12 (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, one film is not enough for WP:NACTOR and the significance of the award might be challenged in regard to WP:ANYBIO. My advice is to wait for a second significant role. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:54, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for checking the draft. As per your advice i have withdrawn the submission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleWombleBee12 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@BubbleWombleBee12: He acted a child artist in one movie, not sure if that adds notability. DareshMohan (talk) 22:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: You're right, he acted in two movies as a child artist Pandanti Samsaram and Naani stated in deccan chronicle and HT Media— Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleWombleBee12 (talk • contribs)

If you think they can be considered significant, that might be enough but I am almost sure certain users would challenge the importance of the roles.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@Mushy Yank: I have seen many pages are in mainspace for example First Frame Entertainments, Banerjee (actor), Bhavya Creations etc.., which the references are not so reliable and how can they are in mainspace? If you're okay to answer, can you please explain me this logic? and also previously i have asked you the notability of singer sahithi chaganti which i took the reference of Manisha Eerabathini. she also having 2 sources which is in mainspace. can you please help me how it works?— Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleWombleBee12 (talk • contribs)

Good question. Various explanations. Some pages are borderline. Some pages remain unnoticed but might be taken to Afd or redirected later. Some are the object of excessive scrutiny and insane demands, while other aren’t. Also, some users clearly have double standards in terms of notability and behaviour. But I guess that’s better left unsaid. I think it’s best to respect guidelines strictly to avoid long contentious debates, and that’s what I try to do. But even then....-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:37, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you for answering, will keep this in mind :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleWombleBee12 (talk • contribs)

Your vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nunakkuzhi

Clearly agree. I guess that following questionable Wikipedia policies is a must (i.e. notable cast and director mean nothing). Sad that ANI was even mentioned. DareshMohan (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, DareshMohan. I think ANI was mentioned as an invitation for me to open a section there, though. At least that's what I understood after being a bit surprised and puzzled by the comment, I confess. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Came here to leave a note about notability tag removal and saw this. It was an invitation to take me to ANI. If you feel I am not following a process in AfD, I always welcome anyone take me to ANI. I am not special or better than anyone here so if I am not following policy then it should be addressed. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Notability tags should not be removed until the AfD is closed because notability has yet been determined. For example, if an AfD is closed as No consensus then the notability tag can remain or be added but if closed Keep, then fine to remove as consensus has determined the topic is notable. Obviously Delete removes the the article entirely so a tag is moot. S0091 (talk) 21:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello to you too. I didn’t remove the notabilty tag from that page, I think. For the rest, thank you for your kind explanation, but, I am sorry, I confess that I disagree with you; see the template doc. Two tags indicating the same issue does not seem like a good idea. So there’s no obligation to leave the notability tag during an AfD, in my view. As for no consensus close= tag can stay. No, sorry, again, I disagree, it depends on each case and again, see template doc. Notabilty tags were designed to indicate a very serious issue, not just that a page needs attention or more sources. In other words: what would be the use of the tag, if the issue is not to be discussed in the near future? Discredit the page? Dishearten contributors? Sorry, but no.. Wrong approach in my opinion. Users may take a page to Afd again 10 times in a row if they want (I am not advising it) but, by the same token, the notability tag can be removed and should not be reinstated if someone with no COI disagrees in good faith (see template doc). Tags are a tool not an end. If the tool is not adapted, use another one. If you are sawing a branch, you don’t need your axe at the same time. Thank you.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:46, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

The page had a notability tag and was then taken to AfD and decided as no consensus which means the issue was not resolved. All good as if no sources are presented showing it being discussed as a whole per WP:NLIST, I am going to just send it back to AfD in a few months. But, the actual reason I came here was for the ANI discussion. As stated, I always welcome an ANI discussion about my conduct should someone feel I am not following guidelines. As I don't like others being contentious and taking away from my enjoyment editing Wikipedia, I would expect the same to apply to me if I am doing it to other editors. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 22:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello to you too. I am not sure I understand. What does the notability tag have to do with Nunakkuzhi? I didn't remove any tag from that page, unless my memory fails me. You seem to be talking about another page, maybe the list of Geo Entertainment programs. I am not sure as to why you are mentioning ANI multiple times here. As I told another user above, as far as I'm concerned, feel free to take any page to AfD as many times as you deem necessary.

Back to ANI, as you're explaining that's the main point of your message(s). I never mentioned ANI myself in the course of the Afd about Nunakkuzhi, I'm afraid, and was just replying to DareshMohan here, as I thought he had misunderstood your comment. It seems that I had understood what you meant the first time there, after all. You were kind enough to confirm it twice here, for which I thank you. I never mentioned your conduct in the course of that discussion, I think. You insist that As I don't like others being contentious and taking away from my enjoyment editing Wikipedia, I would expect the same to apply to me if I am doing it to other editors. Sure, but, again, I never criticised your behaviour during the said discussion, unless I am mistaken and I can confirm I didn't find your replies or comments inappropriate there. I found your mention of ANI a bit bizarre and exaggerated, if anything, but that didn't distress me more than that, to be honest. Unless you are talking about other mentions of ANI by other persons and/or yourself or/and are implying other things in your message; if that was the case, I missed your point and, clearly, I didn't understand what you meant. Thank you for your time. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I would say you understand based on the contentious nature of some of your comments in AfDs. It is also starting to feel like you are following AfDs I initiate. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello to you too....contentious...OK ....As for the rest, I will make a big effort and reply: no, I am not "following" Afds that you initiate.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC) I had missed the opening rather bizarre assertion! I would say you understand, which is not really the type of comments I like. No, if your message was implying something else than what you said and that I commented upon, I didn't get it and, to be honest, given your last message, I am not particularly interested to know.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for all your contributions to English Wikipedia and for your guidance to me. BubbleWombleBee12 (talk) 14:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello again BubbleWomblebee12, and thanks for the barnstar and very kind message. Thank you for your work!-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Deletion discussions

Good work, but having a notable cast doesn't guarantee notability only reliable sources do. DareshMohan (talk) 00:03, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

need help at Draft:Casanova, Last Love. DareshMohan (talk) 02:54, 11 August 2024 (UTC) Done-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)