User talk:Muhammad Ibn Zeya
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May 2021
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below this notice. Cabayi (talk) 06:38, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Rename from "Elite Nazi" to "Muhammad Ibn Zeya"
[edit]@Cabayi: Rename from "Elite Nazi" to "Muhammad Ibn Zeya" --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Muhammad, without making any accusations or guessing your intentions, I should point out the WP:NONAZIS essay. Cabayi (talk) 18:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Ibn Taymiyyah controversial
[edit]Ibn Taymiyyah engaged in numerous disputes during his lifetime, was sometimes imprisoned for his views, and some later interpretations of "Takfiri" ideology rely on him, so it's hard to say why he would not be considered controversial. 00:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's upon the people to decide whether the matters are controversial or not...
- This term is based on opinions. I don't consider it controversial while my friend may feel so.
- And at the same time many viewers who read about Ibn Taymiyyah first time, will already find that this person is controversial and his analysis may be biased.
- As for the imprisonment...
- Many great people were imprisoned and persecuted like Abu Hanifa,Imam Sha'fi, Ahmad ibn Hanbal and in last century the great reformer Sheikh Al Albani...
- Muhammad Ibn Zeya (talk) 02:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- I said nothing about whether the imprisonment was just or unjust. Either way, it indicates controversy.
- It's not for Wikipedia to decide on its own whether he's controversial, but if Reliable sources say that he's controversial, then we can report on that... AnonMoos (talk) 06:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
We'll, it's also the responsibility of Wikipedia to avoid chaos and remove the things which hurts the feelings of a large group of people and when the matter is of Religious scholars, it becomes more sensitive. Removing the word won't bring except good but keeping it will surely bring heated debates and controversies. And I don't see anything in the word that will help the readers to gain knowledge in any way... Please, consider my suggestion & remove the word Muhammad Ibn Zeya (talk) 07:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- You seem to be giving the word "controversial" a meaning it doesn't really have. If many people love a person and many other people hate him, then he's controversial, regardless of his merits or demerits. I'm not editing the article right now; to discuss things with those who are editing, go to Talk:Ibn Taymiyyah... -- AnonMoos (talk) 09:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
In that case most of the Giants of Knowledge can be called as 'controversial'.
Using this word in the biography of Darwin will also be justifiable.
It seems that rather than considering my request,you are in the state of resistance for any change! Muhammad Ibn Zeya (talk) 10:45, 19 May 2021 (UTC)