User talk:Mr Bucket

Welcome!

Welcome!

Hello, Mr Bucket, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --Telsa (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Research, solidness, and sources

Hi there. Welcome to Wikipedia! I see you asked for clarification about a perennial topic over on Talk:The Gap Cycle: "One thing. I'm kinda new to wiki. But is very solid original research allowed? I mean, the stuff about Warden Dios seems pretty dead on..."

You'll see in the list of links above a link to the five principles of Wikipedia. Following those will get you more links, and the ones that explain this issue best are WP:V (about verifiability), WP:OR (about original research), and WP:RS (about reliable sources). And these explain the thing in more detail. But yes, the basic idea is that if you can't point somewhere and say "someone said this" or "according to this test", then it shouldn't really be in Wikipedia. And the someone or the test have to be reliable. If someone's work is very solid, then they should have no trouble getting it published or reported somewhere we can use as a source. I know you will find plenty of pages where there are (as yet) no real references, but they are supposed to have them.

Tedious at times, I know, but in the end, it's worth doing!

On the matter of Warden Dios.. hmm. I dunno. I see where the idea is coming from, and the connection is entirely plausible; but honestly, we do need references. As a Brit, incidentally, I find the idea that Warden is "an obvious and deliberate mispronunciation" of Wotan very odd. Perhaps this makes more sense if an American says them both out loud? It's a good example of an interesting idea, but one which Wikipedia really should cite a reference for.

Again, welcome to Wikipedia. I hope the above helps.

Telsa (talk) 11:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Titus Alone

Hey, it seems you were the original editor of the Titus Awakes page. According to you, Peake's wife got 30000 pages into World Without End, her version of the book...

I was curious, do you happen to know of any way to see these 30000 pages? Was this information in one of the antecedent or ancilliary documents, essays, etc included in Titus Alone? I ask because I have not yet purchased or read Alone (I'm still on Gormenghast), but if these 30k pages are something I can get my hands on I definitely want to ASAP.--Mr Bucket 05:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Bucket!

Here are answers. I hope they help. Maeve Gilmore did not get 30,000 pages into her manuscript (World Without End); only 30,000 words, according to one of the essays in the back of the Tusk U.S. editions of Titus Alone. This is reflected in the Wikipedia article on Titus Awakes. Somewhere, it's indicated these pages no longer exist, although I don't remember the reference (sorry!).

However, it seems as though you are already enchanted by Peake's world, even partway through Gormenghast, judging by your comments. So there's good news mixed in with the bad: if you live in the U.K., you can easily find Boy in Darkness, a novella set in the same world. It's not one of Peake's better-known works, so I don't know if you are aware of it. It has been out of print in the U.S. for 35 years. However, if you live in the U.S. or Canada, you should be able to obtain the Tusk edition of Titus Alone, which at the end includes the unfinished novel Titus Awakes: it's only a few short pages, actually, because Peake was too ill to write much and the editors couldn't make heads or tails of it after the opening pages, but it is definitely worth a look. I highly recommend getting the Tusk edition for that reason alone.

Also, in case you are unable to obtain this last work, fifth in the series, *spoilers* here *spoilers* is a link to the complete (albeit short) final text. Don't read it until you've finished Gormenghast and the other works, of course, because it really is the very end of the series, minus a bit of editorial about what the books would have been, had Peake been able to write them.

Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester 06:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm...

You wouldn't happen to be the same Mr Bucket I know from a certain Fire Emblem website, do you...? Axem Titanium 02:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would, unless there's two distinct Fire Emblem websites, one where an axem titanium who isn't you and a mr bucket who is me are/were active, and one where an AT who is you and a MrB who isn't me are/were active. I think it's reasonable to say that's not the case. I have been active on Fire Emblem Wars very, very recently to post and find info on Goddess of Dawn, mainly because I have a gut feeling that it'll be a good game. Mainly based on the fact that there's diagonal movement in battle!

That being said, how'd you find me? I'd assume it's from the fire emblem articles I've been trying to assist in?--Mr Bucket 21:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel I often need to add something in about a minute after finishing a comment...egh. Anyway, I've no idea whether I take this to your page or keep it here, but for now I'll do a latter and if there's no signs of activity, advance to the former.--Mr Bucket 21:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. I suppose it would be better to contact me on my own page since I don't really look at other people's talk pages unless I have some urgent reason to. Anyway, I noticed your edits to the Magic in Fire Emblem article so I figured I might as well check it out. As for Goddess of Dawn, I haven't played Path of Radience yet (*gasp*) so I think I may be missing something. Axem Titanium 02:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dog meat

I agree that such information would make for a better article, but I'm afraid I don't have access to that info presently. Perhaps most of the editors don't, either. I don't think it's POV to not add information you don't actually know. I might try to look up some info on cuts and such later, but I would encourage you to do so. Cheers, Citizen Premier 02:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Races of the Malazan...

Hi,

Noticed your edit of Races of the Malazan Book of the Fallen, I've just got a question about Midnight Tides - when did the K'Chain Che'Malle show up? I don't recall a specific discussion of them, the only vaguely K'CC'M thing I can remember is the skeleton of Scabandari Bloodeye (sp). What part of the book was it in?

Thanks,

WLU 23:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But I think I also brushed up the writing slightly in that section, so my edit(s) weren't entirely without purpose, even if the fossil stuff doesn't make sense.

Another thing. Did they appear in House of Chains? I know that L'oric saw one, or more, of their skykeeps in the weird spooky deragoth-infested past of the seven cities, but I can't remember if he saw any get killed or anything.--Mr Bucket 23:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are thinking of the same scene as me - when Trull and Fear see SBeye's skull with the hole punched in it; dragon, not K'CC'M. Incidentally, apropos of our discussion, did you see this? Though re-reading your comment now, I wonder if its actually a K'CCM fossil instead of a dragon there (fossil's totally count, Erikson's an archeologist). Whoever confirms which is right wins!

I just checked and you are correct sir, they do appear in HoC, good call. Are you thinking about contributing to MBotF regularly? That'd be cool 'cause right now the pages don't get much editing.

Incidentally, what is the Mr. Bucket in reference to? Sounds like Terry Pratchett's work but I can't recall.

WLU 00:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Huge 'duh!' moment!

Of course the KCCM appear in Midnight Tides - the prologue, where they are fighting the Tiste! WLU

People have a variety of ways of responding to comments - I prefer to do so talk page to talk page, with 2 windows open. That way I don't miss comments by having to watch your talk page, I get flagged every time you respond.

You don't have to make a special effort with the malazan pages, they've been languishing for months now and they aren't going anywhere. Right now all the ones I've ready are fairly well written and accurate (barring plot summaries, which are a pain in the ass to write), and I'm spending most of my time doing other things, so if you aren't taking the time to add to the pages, I can't judge. There's a lot to do and it's no fun if you make a chore of it by forcing yourself to do only one thing.

Aren't wikilinks great? I had no idea what spime was. If one of your nicknames is Severian, why no edits to the Gene Wolfe articles? WLU 12:29, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reccomendations?

Discussion originally located at CJLippert and moved here.

Hey, I saw you made some changes to the Norval Morrisseau article which seemed to indicate you know a lot about the ojibway. I recently read a book of ojibway tales compiled by Morrisseau while exploring the lake wabikimi region - do you have any suggestions about some other collections of ojibway stories I could read?--Mr Bucket 18:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read any of the books written by Basil Johnston? Start there, figure out the feel of the stories, and then you should be able to do an internet search based on the themes he presents, and spring-board into other stories from there. In addition, once the snow falls, if you live near any Anishinaabe community, you may be able to find someone would be willing to share stories with you, as the snowy season is also the story-telling season. CJLippert 21:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, another author (editor) to look for is William Jones. For life experience stories and memoirs, there are a many: George Copway, Maude Kegg, Earl Nyholm, and many many more (see WP:IPNA/Nish#Literature for list of Anishinaabe and Anishinaabe-materials authors). CJLippert 21:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]