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Nice work: I enjoyed these. They're sympathetic to my world- (and wiki-) view as well. On No. 11, one I really like: this from Nietzsche, from the Anti-Christ (53): "...blood is the worst witness of truth; blood poisons and transforms the purest teaching to delusion and hatred of the heart." He has a whole chapter on martyrs and the harm they've done. It's spot on, and you see it on Wikipedia too. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I like it, especially the hivemind part. Abeg92contribs 00:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, gentlemen. Some of them were inspired by yours, Antandrus, as you probably guessed :) Moreschi Talk 08:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
What they said. Nice stuff here. Carcharoth 14:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- This has expanded somewhat since I wrote the above, hasn't it? :-) I was reading them in reverse order, for fun, and there are some good ones here. It's getting a bit long, though. Have you thought of grouping any in essays? Carcharoth (talk) 13:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I could not leave without commenting here on a few points.
- Point #1 ("if you take Wikipedia seriously, you will surely go mad"). Yes, I think this is a serious problem of many regular contributors here. Yes, take it easy. Wikipeida is not a reliable source of information, and it will never be.
- Point #58 (Do not go to Commons). Yes, although I had very little experience on Commons, I found this place significantly more hostile and prone to ideological disputes (about deletion of politically loaded images) than English Wikipedia. Why? I am sure there is a reasonable explanation.
- Points #10 ("Wikipedia is a lousy place for social networking") and #16 ("Online communities should DefendEachOther", which requires social networking) sound contradictory. I think that formation of groups of like-minded editors on-wiki is inevitable, and such groups should not be treated as tag teams or email conspiracies, unless they indeed "AttackEachOther". Agree.
- The points about "nationalistic plague". With all due respect, I can not consider pro-Soviet, pro-Chinese government (anti-Falun Gong) or pro-Putin editors as "nationalists". Nationalist is someone who loves his people and national culture and (in extreme cases) hate other peoples. This should probably be expanded as ideologically-motivated disputes.
- Point #35 (The claim about KGB trolls is ridiculous). Yes, I agree. First of all, I am not even sure where "KGB" came from. This is an officially defunct organization. A reductio ad ridiculum? It's true that Russian state security organizations are famous for placing or making their friends at the very top of various organizations they are trying to control (and they want to control the flow of political information), but I did not see any evidence of this here. If anything, that would be along the lines of 50 Cent Party. My very best wishes (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2012 (UTC)