User talk:Moreau36/Archive 2

prod'd nn mall articles

I saw that you've merged one of the article's I've prod'd following the AFD on Greengate Mall. In case you were wondering, the others I prod'd at the same time (smallish batch incase they were all de-prod'd and I would have to post them at AFD) were:

I've listed these here in case you want to de-prod them (I'll take them to AFD, but that's no guarentee that they'll go) or merge them with placename articles (they may get merged by the AFD recommendation anyway). You don't have to do anything, it's more an fyi. There is one mall in that list that's still open, but I thought it nn so I prod'd it, not sure if that interests you at all. Inner Earth 16:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message - I got it just after I finished this one! Inner Earth 16:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

San Diego, San Antonio

Moreau, regarding your request for a source from User:66.74.215.225:

On San Diego, a source[1] is given for a January 2005 San Diego population estimate that is higher than the Census Bureau's July 2005 estimate for San Antonio. However, this source is from a planning agency. My opinion is that we at Wikipedia should defer to U.S. Census Bureau's estimate over a regional planning agency. I think the San Diego article should reflect this preference too. At the very least, we should use a consistent source for the template (U.S. Census Bureau). I'd like to hear your thoughts.

On a related note, I do you know of any Wikipedia standard that addresses using the most standard source available. That is, use population estimates from the Census Bureau, weather data from a weather bureau (instead of somebody's idea of what the weather was like (e.g. New Englanders often tell me that "it was 95 degrees with 100% humidity" when it was really 89 F, with 52% humidity). If there's not a standard, maybe we could create one. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks. Ufwuct 18:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is Bellevue really a Suburb of Seattle?

Hi, I think this might be worth some discussion on the talk pages of both the Seattle and the Bellevue entries. I am curious why you think Bellevue is a suburb of Seattle. It is listed on wiki as being the 5th largest city in WA. Even on the Bellevue page there is not a single mention of it being a suburb of Seattle. Perhaps that should be added in if it is listed on the Seattle page as such. Tell me where you are coming from here. Thanks! ImpulsivePuppy 02:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Watkins, Colorado

Where are the attacking words in "It is not customary to state the incorporated/unincorporated status along with 'town'; the word 'town' already suggests incorporation, and this is explicitly stated in the second sentence"? Perhaps you could calm down yourself? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Watkinsian (talk • contribs) .

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List of cities in the United States

My edit to California was not an experiment. The list contains only the more important cities of each state. However, California appeared to have many smaller cities in the list- a few under 5,000 pop. So, I tried to narrow the list down to the cities with the larger populations. Do you still disagree? Tell me, 69.40.244.34 21:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with you. Top 15 cities by population for each state seems fine. If the state capital isn't in that list, I think it should be added along with any other cities that have some extremely important significance like Alexandria, Virginia which is technically a county. Places like Hawaii can just list their most important cities, no more than 20. --TinMan 22:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to seem rude about this issue, but the main page List of cities in California is intended for all incorperated cities in the state. The List of cities in the United States page lists only the larger ones. If you look at all other state sections, they don't have every city in the list. However, there is a link if you wanted to see all of them. Because California is the largest population-wise, it should probably have more listed than many other states, (New York has more listed than Montana) but not all listed. Does this work? 69.40.244.34 15:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spring Valley CDP

I noticed that you made some edits on Spring Valley, California noting that it was once a larger community before the creation of the La Presa CDP. I have proposed that Spring Valley and La Presa be merged and would like your opinion. Also, what is your opinion of calling communities CDPs? I don't like it because the CDPs often divide communities that have a cohesive identity. Cases in point, see the articles on Bostonia, California and Granite Hills, California. Spring Valley is also a case in point as La Presa is usually considered part of Spring Valley. Also, I think reducing communities to a three-letter acronym is somewhat degrading. I am preparing to propose a project to clean up the articles on unincorporated communities and make sure that community identities are intact. Rsduhamel 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

US City Pop.

I haven't hear about any others, but I had current data so I contributed it. Let's hope that natives of other cities chip in...I get the Post so I read this article when it came out, and checked DC's rank on the Wikipedia list.

List of United States cities by population

I have set up a Request for Comment on the List of United States cities by population talk page. Please feel free to add a statement to the RfC. Kaldari 23:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Westchase note at the Westchase, FL article

[2]

I added it back - the Texas mention is nowhere else in the article. WhisperToMe 22:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. Well, it has to be at the Florida article because simply typing "Westchase" automatically redirects to "Westchase, Florida". A disambig doesn't have to be at "Westchase Houston", though it can be if you want it to. WhisperToMe 03:30, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Taichung City

I am new on WikiProject Cities. I have added considerable content to the first city I am working on, which happens to be the city of my residence, Taichung City. Would you mind taking a few minutes to look it over and leave comments on how you think I can make it better to bring it up to WikiProject Cities standards in a section of the discussion page for the city’s article page that I have set up.

Thank you. Ludahai 03:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IP talk page blanking

I've got it on my watchlist now. While registered users have some "ownership" of their talk pages, unregistered users do not, as the messages placed there could be intended for other users sharing the same account. -Will Beback 22:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of people

(You said on my talk page:)
I have a question. Explain your reasoning on why you relinked Dave Schawrtz and Warren Madden? The reason why most OCM articles were redirected to The Weather Channel was to prevent these articles from being recreated. This was partially discussed on TWC's article page. The reason for the delinked was to avoid redirects, although I see that you added the prod. templates on the articles (which I totally agree with). see: Talk:The Weather Channel/Archive 1.
--Moreau36 08:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Without bothering to research, i think i can say that you've found a bug in my routine procedures! I was trying to remedy the situation of an LoPbn entry for a rdr to a non-bio, which is in effect (& in fact, once the Rdr bypassers get around to it) an LoPbN entry for a non-bio. When i find a red lk on LoPbn, i check to see if it was added w/out an article, or (a common occurence) an article was deleted w/o eliminating lks to it. I think i have heard of "preemptive rdrs" (as i'd call them) before, but never thot about them enuf to realize i should also check for deletion with cases like these. If i'd picked up on the deletion, i'd have taken it as an indication of n-n where i wanted to avoid undertaking a first-hand evalutation, and simply removed the entry w/o any thot of converting the rdr to a stub. I did another like it in the same sitting, and i'll go check to see if i need to clean that one up as you did with this. Tnx again!
--Jerzy•t 22:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

_ _ Yes. I may have led you astray by what were in effect my efforts to del rdrs via changing them to stub articles, so we should probably consider Unc' G's good counsel more directed at me than at you.
_ _ I put a different kind of cmt at List of people by name: Ab#Abe. But if you find the interest, you could lk at it & comment on this alternative idea: Wikipedia:Real people's names that redirect to non-biographical articles. I'd enter the name-titles like

Tesch, Heather (fl. c. 2000), TWC weather journalist

(hoping that the otherwise irrelevant colon would keep bots from bypassing the Rdr, and with more information than is useful for nav'n on LoPbN) using, a template that linked to the title's What-links-here and history pages, the rdr target, and any AfD page for them. If someone ever questioned that status (explicitly on the talk page or implicitly by changing the lk to a stub), a section could go on the talk, with the ex'g entry getting a lk to the talk section (and probably indentation via * instead of :). I would use this WP: project-space page to periodically find the ones that improperly appear on LoPbN, and i think the whole process would benefit from the enhanced ability to

track the reasons underlying standing or reversed changes in the case one is interested in, and

compare and contrast to previous cases in search of relevant precedents.

And i'd then limit the comments on LoPbN (where the name would have gone) to references to the project-page, and to cases where someone adds or restores such a lk after it's been listed there or removed from LoPbN.
_ _ Thanks for keeping me abreast.
--Jerzy•t 16:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bethesda, Maryland

You have made six edits on the Bethesda page, which I think is more than any other editor. Why do you know so much about Bethesda/why are you so interested in Bethesda? It isn't on the place you've lived list. Just curious. Mmace91 00:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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What is with all the untrue edits to the TWC schedule and OCM list?

*bangs head against wall* --Spring Rubber 05:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What should we do with Bruce Edwards under the former OCMs list?

To be a bit more serious this time, someone put Bruce Edwards under the former OCMs section under the "E" last name; however, Bruce Edwards Kalinowski is already listed under the "K" last names. I wonder, where does it belong better? While his last name is Kalinowski, he did go by Edwards during his entire TWC tenure. --Spring Rubber 04:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pipe trick

You may be interested in the "pipe trick". Typing [[Hollywood, Los Angeles, California|]] or [[East Los Angeles (region)|]] will result in links that say Hollywood or East Los Angeles. It's a little-known timesaver. Cheers, -Will Beback 22:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please vote

The Elvira Arellano article is up for deletion. Please vote by linking to the Arrellano article, then follow the links at the top of the page. Thanks. - Chicaneo 16:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Please note that removing AfD notices is considered to be vandalism. If you wish to ciontest a deletion, please do so on the appropriate page. Lurker ^oi! 19:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? This has already been discussed before. Please see Talk:East Lake-Orient Park, Florida or Talk: East Lake Square Mall. I don't take kindly that you're calling me a vandal. Please take the time to research before personally attacking me. Thank you. --Moreau36 20:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD notices clearly state that they should not be removed until the issue is settled, so removing one is vandalism. Lurker ^oi! 15:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aplogies for using the word "vandalism", next time I restore a notice someone has removed I'll use a more neutral edit summary. Lurker ^oi! 15:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]