User talk:Morbus Rising

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Hard To See

I was just wondering why you got deleted the picture for "Hard To See" that I put up. apks94 (talk) 05:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FFDP Tracks

Where did you see the War is the Answer cover that has "Walk Away" on it? You didn't post references, so I have no clue it it's true or not. If you don't know how to add them, just post the links on my talk page and I'll do it for you. ~Epeu

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Where can I find an MP3 of the song "Salvation (Live}" by Five Finger Death Punch?

Try Google. Chzz ► 19:48, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Limewire.com is good but this is beyond the intent of the {{helpme}} tag. My76Strat (talk) 19:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 15:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have responded again.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moving conversation

Quite unfair. I think users deserve more than one warning, and other steps should be taken besides threats of blocking accounts. By blocking users, you make wikipedia even less verifiable, and get rid of the one thing we need, editors. Morbus Rising (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you are saying it's "okay" to insult other users and threaten to delete their user page? Does that make sense to you? And what else would we do if the user keeps attacking? Give them a complementery shirt and ask them to leave? You may want to rethink that, and read some polices would help too.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 15:52, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am not. The user was obviously distressed; can you not understand that? I'd promote a three strikes-you're out method, which would be more effective. And though Wikipedia's interface now allows users to dive in and begin editing, I think a better strategy would be to slowly acclimate users to Wikipedia's standards and policies as they come in. You can't expect everyone to read every policy while they edit. Plus, this is a nine-year old kid. I don't think he deserves special treatment, but I think immaturity should be factored in. Morbus Rising (talk) 16:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Being distressed only explains the behavior, but doesn't excuse it. Most of the time it's 5-strikes and your out, but personal attacks are much more serious. And the user doesn't get a "get out of jail free card" just because he/she is new. The user needs to learn that that kind of behavior is not acceptable.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 16:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you promote learning by banning? I'm not saying he deserves a get out of jail free card. I'm saying that a personal attack - on a talk page, not a userpage or article - Doesn't merit a one warning way of going about it. Three strikes - you're out. I've attempted to post this at least three times already. Morbus Rising (talk) 16:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know you've said that, and what's the difference between talk pages and other things? Should talk page attacks be less unacceptable than user page attacks. Banning is different than blocking, and the only thing I done is tell the user that attacks are completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 16:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is banning then? I assume blocking is where a user is permanently cut off from wikipedia, which I think is extreme to say the least. The difference to me is that a talk page is not really an encyclopedial reference or article; it is a place for people to talk, so I think personal attacks are less pertinent. The users involved resolved the issue, so why does it matter? Yes, I believe talk pages are less unacceptable, especially when the issue had already been resolved and no harm was done. And aside from giving your one warning statement about blocking, you said little else that mattered. In fact, you specifically did NOT say what you stated you said. "user that attacks are completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated" was no where in your statement.

Banning is preventing a user from editing specific articles. And blocking isn't always permenant, they can range from 3 hour blocks to a year long block. I never said that the sentance was in a warning. If you got a warning for something, like say vandalism you would know that vandalism isn't acceptable, right? And what your saying is that attack on a user page and attacking on a user talk page with the exact same thing, the talk page would get a lesser warning, right? Would you like me to bring up polices, I've been here long enough to know what is what.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 17:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"the only thing I done is tell the user that attacks are completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated". Did you send this in a message then? Because you never explained anything to him. That is indeed what I'm saying, as the talk page could be an effective medium to sort the issue out, which they did, in fact, do. They sorted it out themselves, before you gave your warning. And no, I don't need any policy info. I know the basics of what i'm doing, I don't attack people personally anyways.

It was just a demonstration. I've already said it, but warnings are basically that sentance about unacceptable stuff in a better format. And how does someone settle the issue of the user stinking out? And what do issues have to do with personal attacks? How do you settle a personal attack?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 17:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean issue? By issue, I meant the dispute between the two users, did you not investigate it before jumping in, or even read past the title of the personal attack? After the attack, the user who was attacked replied, and the issue (dispute between the two users) was settled. Either way, let's just agree to disagree.

I did read the whole thing. The user was mad at Closedmouth for deleting his/her user page. The user then stated that he/she did not have good intentions from what the user said. And how can you tell it was settled. The attacking user never responded. Anyway, this is probaly over anyway.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 17:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just assume it was settled because the user's page was fixed; however, it seems someone else has deleted it again. Your actions may have been correct in this situation, time will only tell. However, I still think that personal attacks should be less royally disputed. Morbus Rising (talk) 18:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... how are they disputed?Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 18:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I meant responded to. I think they're not as important as vandalism, and I think they should receive a slightly more lenient approach. Morbus Rising (talk) 18:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On my opinion I would say that PA are more important that vandalism, having been attacked 120 different times. Vandalism is most likely some kids having annoying fun, but Personal attacks are deliberate attempts to harass and sometimes threaten other users.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 19:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand that, but a personal attack after your userpage has been deleted for no given reason seems to be a bit less dangerous. Morbus Rising (talk) 21:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Five Finger Death Punch.jpg

I've tagged File:Five Finger Death Punch.jpg as a replaceable fair use image. In general, we don't allow pictures of living people that are non-free. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 07:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for deletion nomination of Jeremy Spencer (drummer)

I have nominated Jeremy Spencer (drummer), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Spencer (drummer). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ^TheWeak_Willed 18:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FFDP members

I could get a wealth of info about them, but if they don't get AFDed now, another member might AFD them later, after the articles have been greatly expanded. You might want to look at WP:BIO and WP:MUSIC for notability of musicians (and even WP:SONG for future reference). Not all members of bands and songs rise to notability, for example All That Remains (band) has an article about one song and only 2 members. That is because that one song was their only song to reach notability. The two members that have articles have them because they have done notable work with other (notable) bands (Shadows Fall, Killswitch Engage, The Acacia Strain).
If you can prove that those two members are notable, or their notability is proven in the AFD, I will greatly improve the articles. If they aren't notable, I would rather they get deleted now, rather than you, me, or another editor spend hours revamping the article, and have it get deleted shortly thereafter by somebody who puts it up for AFD. ^TheWeak_Willed 10:25, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solo projects, if they are a columnist in a magazine, if they are featured in a magazine, book written on or about them. That sort of stuff. ^TheWeak_Willed 22:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, but you can still source info from a full band article. The more info you can find about them, the better the article is, and (most of the time) the better chances it has to stay. If FFDP ever releases a documentary DVD, you could probably get a bunch of info from that. I'm working to improve the Killswitch Engage members' articles, now that I have (Set This) World Ablaze ^TheWeak_Willed 14:54, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Refs aren't that hard, just the formatting might be confusing. For web stuff you can do something like this (click "edit" to see the code).^[1] and that would output "Google.com". Retrieved 15 August 2009.
There are other fields that you can fill in, see WP:CITE. I forgot the exact format for CD and DVD citings, but I'm sure they aren't much different. ^TheWeak_Willed 02:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Succubus

Where did you hear the "Succubus" is a B-Side from "Way of the Fist"? Epeu (talk) 00:12, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Google.com". Retrieved 15 August 2009.

[1] "Google.com". Retrieved 15 August 2009.

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