User talk:Mlsizemore

Welcome!

Hello, Mlsizemore, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Tige Boats, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted (if it hasn't already).

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

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Speedy deletion of Tige Boats

A tag has been placed on Tige Boats requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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February 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Tige Boats, did not appear to be constructive and has been automatically reverted by ClueBot. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you believe there has been a mistake and would like to report a false positive, please report it here and then remove this warning from your talk page. If your edit was not vandalism, please feel free to make your edit again after reporting it. The following is the log entry regarding this warning: Tige Boats was changed by Mlsizemore (u) (t) deleting 8841 characters on 2009-02-25T17:40:21+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot (talk) 17:40, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Tige Boats

A tag has been placed on Tige Boats, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 21:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: Tige Boats

The copyright problems have been corrected, but the larger issue is that Tige Boats reads like an advertisement or catalog and has no independent, non-trivial references that assert notability. The sources you listed are either press releases [1] [2], advertising [3], or are websites that are created by or in association with the company [4], [5]. Awards that the company won need to be verified by independent sources, not press releases. Your first article and our business FAQ explain in depth how to write an article about a business in a manner appropriate for Wikipedia and what types of sources are needed. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 21:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: re: Tige Boats

I see your point with the references being unreliable. I will get corrected/more reliable references for the awards. In some cases, is it not appropriate to reference the the corporate website say for instance when I reference the in the timeline that the company was founded in 1991? Or for other reasons i.e. explaining how TAPS works? Thank you for your response and time.

It's always best to quote a third-party source whenever possible. In absence of that a corporate website can be used to verify facts in some cases but cannot be used to prove notability. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 21:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have done some revisions including finding sources that are more credible. Let me know if these changes are enough to keep the page up. Thanks.Mlsizemore (talk) 22:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Tige Boats

I have nominated Tige Boats, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tige Boats. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 05:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See reply I left at the discussion page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tige Boats. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 16:24, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: re: re: Tige boats

Hi, I'm sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, this week has been mad-crazy! Wikipedia:Citing_sources/Example_edits_for_different_methods#Footnotes lists how each type of print source is formatted, you surround the citation with <ref> and </ref> tags just like an online source, but just with plain text.

Regarding your question about how to make the article compliant with Wikipedia's policies, I took a look at some of the other online sources you added, unfortunately they still all seem to be press releases and other similar documents that are not third party, non-trivial. I asked a WikiFriend of mine for some advice as well, hopefully he can help because Tige boats does look like a notable company, we can fix the issues with tone and style to let the article read like less of a prospectus, but without objective sources it can't comply with our core policy of verifiable notability. Regards, Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 02:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]