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Well...

I came back, but I found that many other editors around wikipedia are just as bad as the ones who made me take a long hiatus to rethink being involved the first time.

It's ugly out there and there are a LOT of people acting in bad faith. :( Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 13:22, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice to see you again!!! I am sorry to hear that, but don't lose faith. Not knowing your specific situation, I can only say please be patient, continue to make suggestions, and try your best to work with other editors to reach a common goal. Wikipedia will always be here, so if consensus can't be reached now, work on other articles in the meantime. Your contributions and input are valuable; but sometimes other editors just need time to process new information, ideas, and perspectives. Good luck! MiztuhX (talk) 16:46, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I tried that, and instead of civility, I was subjected to someone who went around block-shopping and then someone who (I suspect related to the others) actually impersonated me and left fake comments trying to get an even more extended block. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Please help me with...tactfully ending a conversation with an abusive editor on the Superman (1978) Talk Page. Should I just stop answering the editor? Thank you.

MiztuhX (talk) 06:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at that talk page, and I see only one editor there who could possibly be regarded as "abusive". That editor persists in plugging the same points repeatedly, seems unable to hear what other editors say if it doesn't fit in with their view, fails to accept that consensus is clearly against them. Bizarrely, they even make statements which everyone concerned must be able to see are false, such as denying having made any edits to the page, although they clearly did. If that editor continues in the same way there is a risk that they may be blocked from editing to prevent further waste of everyone's time. My advice therefore is to drop the stick and move on. JBW (talk) 12:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. It has been enlightening and reassuring. Regards, MiztuhX (talk) 04:27, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In light of things which have been said subsequently, I think my attempt at irony here was too subtle for you. Look back at the page in question, read what was said there, and see which one editor "persists in plugging the same points repeatedly, seems unable to hear what other editors say if it doesn't fit in with their view, fails to accept that consensus is clearly against them". Also see which one editor "den[ied] having made any edits to the page". Since it seems you may have missed my point, let me spell it out: it was you. I have just read the administrative action review which you started, and, on the basis of both these incidents, my advice to you is that if you can't learn to just drop a matter when it is obvious that you are going to get nowhere with it, then before long you will be blocked indefinitely. That's just advice, and of course it's up to you whether you choose to take it. JBW (talk) 09:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With regards to your attempt at irony, my advice to you: Adminship is not a game WP:ANOT#GAME MiztuhX (talk) 16:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not, and we are deadly serious when we say your attitude, behavior, and approach to other editors is not and has not been appropriate. You are drawing ever closer to being indefinitely blocked from editing. Please heed the advice you have been given. Thanks -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Despite everyone's best efforts to advise Miztuh and warn them, they have gone back to editing the article and added another citation tag over the budget, despite being told not to do so and to actually find other sources that verify it rather than just disputing it again without proper evidence. I have removed the tag and reformatted the page numbers they added to a cite (which I have fixed in the ref and I am thankful for, though they should have been added properly from the get go), and I encourage Miztuh to just WP:Let it go with the whole budget thing. We have multiple sources verifying it already. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:34, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks, such as your addition to Talk:Superman (1978 film) can easily be misinterpreted, or viewed as harassment. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:55, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please be specific; your remarks are much too general, especially when apparently accusing somebody of harassment, which, in itself, might be viewed as a veiled threat. And I have been nothing but respectful, collaborative and polite, unlike other editors. The problem is that many editors can't seem to handle disagreement in a constructive manner, and it's okay to agree to disagree. MiztuhX (talk) 16:08, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Superman (1978 film). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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MiztuhX (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am asking that my block be reviewed because there was a discrepancy in the timing of our respective replies. I was writing a reply to Trailblazer101 when Bbb23 was posting his original decision. When I posted the reply, I was able to read the decision that I was close to being banned. I logged out. It was only a few hours later when I logged back in that I became aware of the second decision that my account was banned, which I believe Bbb23 mistook as a challenge to his original decision. In closing, I did not reply to challenge or provoke Bbb23's decision; my reply was directed as a reply to Trailblazer101, but the timing of our respective posts prevented my awareness of Bbb23's decision, otherwise I would not have replied. MiztuhX (talk) 23:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The warning was published at 13:15:32; the message that led to the block was published 13:18:15 using the reply tool that probably automatically resolved the edit conflict. I find your explanation convincing: You didn't see the final warning.

Still, the behavior that led to the block does justify a block, even if there had been no warning. I recommend waiting for the 48 hours to expire and simply not to continue the behavior that led to the block.

I have removed the text "after being warned" from the block description as a matter of fairness/accuracy. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I respectfully disagree on a technical basis. Since the original decision was a warning and it has been recognized that an edit conflict was the cause of the discrepancy, then the original decision of a warning should be honored in the name of fairness and accuracy. Issuing a block retroactively has no justification if the original administrator already determined that a warning was sufficient. This only leads to conflicting claims between the two administrators and confusion with regards to WP rules since they appear to not be applied equitably. MiztuhX (talk) 00:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, I understand that under[WP:TOOLMISUSE : Misuse of Admiminstrative Tools, that you are unable to “reverse the actions of other administrators – Only in a manner that respects the admin whose action is involved, and (usually) after consultation.”

May we consult @Bbb23: to explain the situation and see if he would be willing to reinstate the warning due to these extenuating circumstance?

MiztuhX (talk) 01:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody asked me, and I'm in no position to take administrative action myself, but as someone who has no previous experience with this editor (I'm reading this thread through pure gnomish happenstance) and has to judge them purely on the basis of their response to this situation, I see some things to suggest that they be given the benefit of the doubt. They are keeping their cool, making a reasonably sound argument under policy and pragmatics regarding the blocking policy, and honestly, nobody could be a fan of their first block: I'm sure it would mean something to them to see it noted in the block log that the block was lifted because it wasn't found absolutely necessary at this juncture.

Mind you, I was not able to find the original behaviour/comment that was deemed a PA or harassment. Possibly because Mitzuh's posts run toward the fulsome and even wall-of-texty side of things--said respectfully, as I had a similar tendency as a new editor and still tend to run a little over the average. But the rest of their discussion style seems cogent and mostly polite. Little hints of IDHT, and the "I always try to discuss collegially--unlike some other people..." sentiment is rarely a good luck. But on the whole, I think they're trying. I might end up eating crow once I actually see what they said, but at the moment it looks to me like they are trying. For whatever a random commenting community's member's thoughts are worth. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 06:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think your ping of Bbb23 would've worked as you added it after your original comment, ping only works when you include a signature Indagate (talk) 07:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asking Bbb23 (talk) to review recent posts.MiztuhX (talk) 21:26, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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