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The Regime

Cuzzo.. I am Yuk's rebmaster.. I run Smokealotrecords.com UDStyle is short for Untouchable Design Style lol. I know the regime, and to be real there are a lot more regime members that don't even rap that Yuk didn't mention. Mrs Story works with Smoke-A-Lot and worked a little toward AOW3.. DJ Fingaz is our official DJ but he is not Regime. He is a signed Smoke-A-Lot DJ. I was at smoke house studios when it was recorded so trust me on this. :)

The web page is not outdated, those were the only names that were wanted on the site. We did not mention ppl like KP, because he doesn't rap. etc. Yuk was calling out Regime and niggas that helped put it together.

As for it not working on other explorers I tested them on all of those and they worked for me. Check your ISP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Udstyle (talk • contribs) 00:43, July 21, 2006

Strength and Loyalty

You ask "how many sources do you want?" — just one; none had been given before, except a general link to a Website with the implied message that we had to look for information ourselves. I've removed that one again, and the two commercial links, which aren't allowed here. The other two are fine; giving one of those originally would have saved a lot of trouble. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 16:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: edits to Misery Loves Kompany & Celcius

Apologies for those incorrect edits. In the 200 or so pages with 'villian(s)' that I corrected, I got a couple wrong. I've added an exception to my lists so those pages will be ignored in future. Thanks Rjwilmsi 17:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Siccness

Do you goto siccness?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiggl3sLimited (talk • contribs) 17:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Im just wondering i goto it to, whats your name? Wiggl3sLimited 16:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

edits to Killer album cover

thanks for Expanding the Fair Use summary for me on it..

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Kutt Calhoun

Thanks for taking the time to add to the Kutt Calhoun wiki page!! Imma work on Kaliko's page next once I get some free time.. Hopefully we can get these pages to stay up. Thanks again, Freecharlesgrace (talk) 23:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. User:Mizery_Made/Kutt_Calhoun. Please update it quickly, as it may be deleted again if it is not fixed. When it is ready, I can look at it if you like and see whether it meets the guidelines, and move it back to mainspace. If you'd rather, you can just move it yourself. ff m 16:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sole

Thanx for that correction on Sole. I grabbed the wrong info box by accident. LaterMcelite (talk) 04:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AWB mistake

Thanks for that, obviously hip hop articles are hard to go through with AWB due to all the slang and cut words, I just didn't see any context for it to be spelled like that, so I figured it was probably just a misspelling. Thanks for notifying me. :) — neuro^(talk) 19:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of best selling album sales

I will provide the/another appropriate source since the RIAA "website" is not always accurate nor up-to-date. If you check the release dates of some albums on that site, they are not all correct either. Perhaps another RIAA verification is warranted, but in the mean time Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em can remain at 10x. Thank you! Jon the editor (talk) 06:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm well knowledgeable of Hammer, most of the entries about him and his music are my edits (using more than one user ids over time) but you may be right about the "world wide" sales now that I think about it. I will double-check and see if I can't provide a better RIAA source that can be viewed on the internet I guess. If not, I concede and the way it is will do. It is correctly sourced in other articles already anyways. Thanks, have a nice day! Jon the editor (talk) 06:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The thing here is, you cited a sales total. Sure, the album may have sold 18 million copies since it's release, that's great, but the way that article is currently set up, it works off of RIAA certifications. The album may have sold 18 million, but 10 million of that may have come from the US (and thus apply to the Certification) while the other 8 million come from elsewhere in the world. Or those last 8 million may not fall under the criteria for Certification. Fact remains that you inserted it with "18x Platinum" and then "18 Platinum" which are both incorrect statements. A possible solution would be to list the Certication and that be the sorting criteria, and then have a second column for Sales Totals. However with that, you run into the problem that it's "in the United States" whereas a lot of totals will be for worldwide sales and not specific to the US. So sure, find a source that states it's 18x platinum, however you're still going to run into the argument of RIAA vs. Your Source, and I'm afraid the RIAA's site will likely win that arguement since they're the authority on RIAA certification.

For the record, that previous paragraph was typed before you added your second paragraph, which you acknowledge some of what I just said. Though it does cover a thing or two you mention, so, I'm posting it anywayMizery Made (talk · contribs) 06:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I understand. Thanks for the input. And this is honestly not to get into an edit war or fight, it's just to express some "mistakes" or "contradictions" if you and others are getting your info from the RIAA site only. Here is why, it's not accurate or updated nor is it truly the "final word" on album sales even in the US (I say that only because there is a margin of human error even with them supposedly being the self-claimed "authority" on all sales). I also say this because there are inconsistencies within their own categories. This is off the record and besides the point, but keep in mind, for whatever reason people may resent/hate Hammer, they will try to discredit his talent as much as possible out of jealousy or hatred maybe (in my life-time experience). I don't know, but I have seen article after article that did not give the appropriate props for his albums/talents. With that said, if you will look at these three pages, he is listed in one, not another and then more notably, the ORIGINAL release date of his album is incorrect. Per other sources I've sited within other articles, a month prior the album was released, then re-released in February 1990. The album was recorded and cut in 1989 and even songs performed in late '89 (such as U Can't Touch This). Now why I say this is because the certification date is way back in April of 1991. Since then, many more than that have been sold nearly 20 years later. Anyone would know, with the impact of that album via media and "word of mouth", more than 10x have been sold. That's simple math and common knowledge. Not only globally but within the USA. Yes, "x" indicates more than have been sold but it would be more accurate to increase it. But if this article only goes by what RIAA is saying, then so be it. Doesn't make it right though and this is only one article on the subject. 10X is a standard/generic amount that keeps getting quoted year after year but it is out-dated and inaccurate. (It's like how I hear people talk about what Jesus did over 2000 years ago. I've heard that since I was a child and now I'm adult. It's been more than 2000 years, for example, but that's what keeps getting "passed on" and remembered). Reason being, 10X was what it initially sold back when it was first released. But like with Micheal Jackson or Tupac albums for instance, more get sold years later. Especially when songs like U Can't Touch This are still marketed in present day media and new fans (or old) buy it again. And this isn't the only album there is a discrepancy with on that site. And there are other sources off the Internet that could verify well over 10X as well, not to mention he wasn't even mentioned in one category but is in another. Not very accurate, but again, I concede only because it will come down to "who's right, who's wrong" issue on here (not saying with you, just in general) and it's not worth the brain damage. (smile) I know what I know and it's enough for me not to prove a point. I am just playing devil's advocate and giving another explanation. Once more, this is just one specific article on the subject, not the "bible" of accurate album sales no matter what they self-proclaim. Graciously, good night.

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?resultpage=3&table=tblTopArt&action=

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=tblTop100

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=tblDiamond

Cert. Date 04/15/1991 Release Date 02/12/1990

P.S. I'm not trying to be a "Know-it-all" or schooling you, just explaining my view on the matter. That's what the talk pages are for I'm told. (smile) Jon the editor (talk) 07:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hammer is actually listed on all three of the linked pages. The Top 100 albums covers only the albums, and his highest certified (and only one to reach high enough to be included on this list) is "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em." That first link however is the top selling Artists, which then takes all his releases into consideration. If you check page 2 of this list, you will see that Hammer is listed in the area of the 16's, which is how many million units he's had certified all together over all his albums and such. The release date being wrong isn't exactly relevant to the issue at hand. RIAA is the group that gives the Platinum certifications, which is the relevant information coming from their site. That article is set up around the RIAA certification, so it they only have it certified for 10, then that's what the article has to state.

Now... I don't necassarily agree with this... but it's actually opposite to your argument as to why I say that. You disagree with it because they have Hammer listed at 10, while you're providing proof he's sold more. My gripe is that the RIAA doesn't even go on "sales." Well, it kind of depends on your definition of a sale. They go on "shipments," so if a store orders 100 copies, those 100 will count toward certification regardless if someone picks them up off the shelf and buys them, or they sit there for a year. Thus, something may be certified platinum, but actually has only sold 800,000 while the other 200,000 copies are sitting on the shelf of Best Buy. However, that's where the argument of "Sale" comes in. Soundscan bases their information on the end customer actually purchasing it, however that store has to buy the album to then turn around and sell it to you for a retail price. Thus, a shipment could still be considered a sale.

As for an edit war, it really would lead to one. I honestly wouldn't run right back and revert your edit again if you tried to put it back at 18. I did it once, and stated why, I don't have a desire to patrol that page and revert it each time. I just happened to stop by there and see your edit. However, others would probably take the same stance that I had (that the RIAA only has it certified at 10, regardless of what sales totals you can provide) I think a lot of the reason it goes on RIAA certification as opposed to say, Soundscan numbers, is because the RIAA openly provides certification information on their site, while Soundscan is mostly for industry insiders. There are snippets of their charts posted on the internet, but they only cover like the top 200 selling albums, and thus isn't an effective source.

FYI as well, the "x" doesn't mean more, it means "times." So "10x Platinum" means it's been certified "platinum 10 times." You're probably thinking of "10+ Platinum" which would mean "10 (or more) platinum."

Like I mentioned though, I'm not trying to get into an edit war with you, or some big debate about "I'm right, you're wrong." Merely offering a different view on the issue, and hopefully doing so in a way that comes off as friendly and not like I'm sitting here mashing the keys in anger. You know? Cheers. Mizery Made (talk · contribs) 08:24, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. No worries about an edit war, like I said, I concede. But thanks for shedding light on the matter. And yeah, oops... I did mean +. My bad. I do agree that there is room for improvement with "counting" units sold/shipped. There is always a margin of error/accuracy. By the way, I did not see Hammer on the total albums sold, but I must have overlooked it. At any rate, it's all good either way. I appreciate the lesson, as I wasn't as knowledgeable on the subject surrounding the logistics of RIAA. Peace and happiness! Jon the editor (talk) 20:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your infobox suggestions at Harper’s Island

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King of Darkness

I've been posting up "King of Darkness" as the meaning for K.O.D for over a month now in which you keep reverting it (Because you couldn't find it). Now let's hope you can because it's there in GIANT letters. --69.152.44.241 (talk) 15:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dinner and a Movie (album) tracks

Hello, Mizery Made. I was wrong about your "Bio" reference [1] for the tracks. I expected the "Bio" to be, well, a biography, so I assumed you were citing the pre-sale announcement at the top of the page, then compounded the error by transposing words in the performer's name when I searched for confirming sources. Sorry. I did stop and reverse those edits as soon as I realized what had happened. However, I cannot find "The Foe" in the source you cited [2], nor even the text foe. Can you tell me where in the article I should look for it? Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I saw that you noticed your error and made an effort to correct it (I merely reverted to add the citation tags back). Regarding "The Foe," it's not actually in the article. It's in the Media Player on the left hand side of the player. The three tracks contained in there are an excerpt of the Strange Music 2010 sampler "Infection." Not the best of sources, I know, but it still establishes another confirmed track. It may be a mute point soon, seeing as it's up for deletion and I've yet to find some recent articles to give it a chance of standing. Figured that would occur, which is why I started a page for it in my namespace to work on, before someone created that page in the Wiki-space. Thought I might as well do what I could to give it a fighting chance though. We'll see. Mizery Made (talk · contribs) 20:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dinner and a Movie (album) "Pre-order" track

Hello Mizery Made. I left a message here, but of course you must be watching the article, so I moved the message to the article's Talk page. I'll stop smudging up your talk page with matters that belong over there. Yappy2bhere (talk) 04:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Strange music

Hi, thanks for your edit summary note. Yes, you are indeed right about the quote; I hope you meant "8th", not spelled out, since that is what I've returned it to. On "U.S.", the infobox example is not in any way definitive, and is in dire need of updating in any case; indeed editors need to more diligent in shaping the information and formatting of infoboxes to each particular musical topic, if infoboxes are to gain more respect and are to work well in relation to the main text. "U.S." is, in my view, undesirably stumpy in such a context at the top: I have changed it to "United States", which is more stylish in isolation (preferred, too, by some authorities). I have not linked it, since WP:LINK says not to; I cannot fathom what the utility of such a link would be to the reader. There is no consensus at all that infoboxes are somehow exempt from the style guides. Please take this up on the talk page or on my talk page if you have a query about it. Tony (talk) 14:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hey

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Tech N9ne

My mistake about removing the information in the heading. I posted my revision as you posted yours, so there was a conflict. I went back and added your stuff to my version, and I missed what you added in the heading. Anyway, I'll be working on the article a little more later today, and finish it up tommorrow.Juggalobrink (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair enough. I'm glad to see somebody attempting to improve the page, as it's been in dire need of some work for a while. I always mean to dig in and try to do something with it myself, but always end up getting sidetracked or otherwise discouraged. I've actually had a text document on my computer that I start a few years ago that I intended to be a complete rewrite (which was mainly using information from the T9X documentary, with various other sources scattered throughout)... but its just sat there for the longest. Interested how your 'final product' will turn out. – Mizery Made ^{(talk · contribs)} 00:17, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your text will certainly come in handy. I've been searching around for some sources online and don't have too much more additional information to add. Just a lot of clean up to the article and structure. That video I'm sure would help explain a lot.Juggalobrink (talk) 01:16, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've finished my expansion and clean up of the article.Juggalobrink (talk) 14:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In general, I think it's a step in the right direction. The "career" section could stand some expansion though I believe, as currently it reads for the most part like "in xxxx he released, the following here he released and then he released." It could probably use some more album specific information to flush it out like is present for K.O.D., or some more events interweaven were possible like Rock the Bells. In my opinion, I feel the "In popular culture" has been condensed far too much. I think it was beneficial to have some context to the various appearances (and not simply list "his music appeared on x, y and z show" for instance) and gave better understanding to it. May only be me who thinks that way however. – Mizery Made ^{(talk · contribs)} 20:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Strange Music

My bad about thatm for some reason I always get Kutt Calhoun and Krizz mixed up, explaining me putting 2004. However do you not think we should at least put 2008 for Krizz as he must have been signed to Strange by then at the latest, if not earlier due to his first album being released that year. Before I assumed he signed much earlier based off a Tech interview where he said they had been doing business together for over a decade. It is pretty hard to find an online source for an Independent record label signing that place a couple years ago. STATic message me! 06:26, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While it is safe to assume that he was signed at the time that his album came out in 2008, it would be inaccurate to put that on the page, seeing as he could have been signed earlier. I recall Kaliko 'announced' that he had finally officially signed, and I seem to recall this being around 2006 as I think it was around the time his son was born. The trouble is, I can't recall where this 'announcement' was made. It may have been on the Siccness forums, or it may have been on his old MySpace page. I tried asking him on Twitter a while back, but the answer wasn't very specific as I mentioned him signing in 2005 or 2006 and he replied "Yeah, but I've been working with them since 2000". So again, it's around 2005-2006. May be difficult to uncover a source for it, but Kutt didn't have a year until it was confirmed in that XXL article. So there's still hope we'll get a legitament year for Kaliko as well. – Mizery Made ^{(talk · contribs)} 07:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tried getting the information from him again, and was more successful this time. Reply on Twitter Here he states that he signed with the label in 2006. It's not exactly a "valid source" for Wikipedia, since it comes from the individual in question, but it's better than just "guessing/assuming." – Mizery Made ^{(talk · contribs)} 11:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is just fine. As long as his Twitter is verified we can use it as a reliable source. STATic message me! 15:31, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I apologize, sorry about that.

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Ces Cru is not on the Deluxe version of 'Special Effect's by Tech N9ne

If it really was you'd be able to tell me the name of the song! What is it then? Have you even listened to this cd? Check the tracklist below, Ces Cru is nowhere to be found. I've heard EVERY song on the deluxe edition of 'Special Effect's. Please check your information before contradicting someone with more experience or knowledge than you. Please stop being ignorant and stubborn.

P.S. If you really believe me to be wrong still, than what is the name of the song Ces Cru is featured on? I'll wait.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by KaydenCooper (talk • contribs) 16:59, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a tad confused by this "attack" of yours, seeing as you're the one that reverted the edit by the IP Address which removed Ces Cru from the list of features. However, to satisfy you... Ces Cru appear on "

Young Dumb Full of Fun", which is contained on the iTunes Deluxe Edition. – Mizery Made ^{(talk · contribs)} 02:09, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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