User talk:Missdejablue

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MPB article

Hello, thank you for writing this article! I have a few concerns about it and wanted to discuss them with you:

I’m a bit concerned that this event might not be notable enough to qualify for a Wikipedia article. That link goes to a guide, but basically any coverage of a company on here is supposed to be based on being covered in reliable sources, like newspapers, in the form of full articles and not just things like business listings. So could you add some more citations?
A lot of it reads like a press release or promotional copy, not a factual encyclopaedia article.
The text copies the organisation's "about us" description. We can't use this description as it's copyrighted. My suggestion is delete this and replace this with a short description (six sentences would be enough) in your own words with no copying of text, and about ten citations.

Are there any extra citations you can add from reliable sources like news articles about this company demonstrating that it's notable? (Those are links to guides explaining this in more detail.) I'm concerned since the article may get deleted otherwise, perhaps very soon if the copyrighted text isn't removed.

Let me know if you have any thoughts or questions about this. Blythwood (talk) 11:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC) 13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)13:08, 1 September 2016 (UTC)~ it is my first wiki entry so i am trying to read stuff while writing the article with was not complete. on the medford oregon page, the art in bloom has its own link and page and our festival is like, 3 times bigger than it, so i suggested we do a page. im always trying to learn about web design and an such and this foray into wiki has been interesting. i have been a volunteer for the organization for 10 years and i have spoken directly to the president and i have 100% backing and have actually written some of the things that are copy written on the page. how to i revert back to the one i wrote, as i will be adding media and more citations and such as i am learning to do so. ok i figured out how to respond i think. im sorry if i am confusing things by starting a new talk on your page.[reply]

My "horrible edit"

Hello there. All I did was fix the categories and heading styles, add a clear opening sentence (Wikipedia articles almost always start with "X is a Y") and cut what seemed to be a direct copy-and-paste from pearblossomparade.org - as Blythwood explains above, Wikipedia is always very careful not to use other people's copyrighted content. If you work for pearblossomparade.org and the organisation is happy to release the text so that Wikipedia - and anyone - can reuse it, you need to follow the steps at WP:DONATETEXT.

You can click here to see the earlier version of your article, if you want to reuse any of it.

Note that Wikipedia encourages people to be cautious about editing articles where they have a conflict of interest: see WP:COI. --McGeddon (talk) 13:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Missdejablue (talk) 13:28, 1 September 2016 (UTC) understand i am struggling to understand this whole new platform and yes, the header of "sports" negated the entire paragraph's point. but i digress, will put away my pride and try to remain open to learning. i do not work for them, i have never received money, i am strictly a volunteer who is actively both on her feet for several areas of the pageants, parade, pear-a-fare, and behind the scenes for those and several other facets of the organization. i read the part about conflict of interest and i do not believe i fall under that category. all i saw was art in bloom has an entry and think that since the pear blossom festival is bigger, then it should have its own entry. i re-entered my original entry and will be working on citations today and tomorrow after i finally get some sleep. i will also get toe copywrited info in the proper channels.[reply]

Conflict of interest still applies if you're a volunteer, and even if you're just writing about a friend (see WP:COISELF) - even with the best will in the world, you might accidentally introduce statements from personal experience which are impossible for other editors to check.

The copyrighted text is a problem, so I'm going to have to revert that until you can get the text released under an appropriate licence. I'll keep your preferred headings, though.

Note that the best thing you can be doing for the article right now is to find reliable secondary sources about the festival, and add them to the article - newspaper and magazine articles, mentions in books, that kind of thing. Without secondary sources, the article probably won't stick around. --McGeddon (talk) 13:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and dug up an article about the Leonard Nimoy appearance, as a first reference. The article needs at least two, ideally with some detailed information about the festival. --McGeddon (talk) 13:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Missdejablue (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)there are a ton of articles that i am going thru from our local paper to use as a citation. then i will read about how to enter them. i am also going thru the copy writed info and editing it while i wait for the president to write me back on a few points i wanted to make about the festival. can you provide examples of biased input so i know what to avoid? i felt its been matter of fact so far. i don't have a whole lot more to add as far as i know, we just wanted something short to link into the medford oregon page like art in bloom is. i don't want to write a book about the festival LoLMissdejablue (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Missdejablue (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2016 (UTC)and thank you for doing the cite. i havent slept all night trying to figure this out and apologize. i do sincerely appreciate your assistance. Missdejablue (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Best advice I can give is to make sure that absolutely everything you write can be confirmed by a source (the festival's own website is fine, so long as that's not the only source we're using for the whole article). e.g., the claim that the race event has an average of 5,648 runners - where did you get that number, how can other editors check it? If you want to add something that you know is true, but don't have a source for it, you should leave it out, even if it seems obvious to you. --McGeddon (talk) 15:03, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Missdejablue (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)i now have at least one cite for each entry and have edited each description to (hopefully) fix the copyright issue. things are already gearing up for the festival and i want to try to not bother the president with things that i can fix myself. i still need to read the info on how to add a cite. i have local news and newspaper articles to cite. will that suffice? Missdejablue (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC) Missdejablue (talk) 15:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)i won't be uploading this new update til i know how to site.Missdejablue (talk) 15:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CITEFOOT. You can just drop them into the article as <ref>http://somewheredailynews.com/story/12345.html</ref> and someone else will clean them up later, if you like. --McGeddon (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes: to explain, what Wikipedia values is neutral writing and sourcing verifying every fact in the article. What I've done is shortened the article and added many more citations which I hope will make it a lot better. It sounds like a clever event. I've also tagged the talk page so Wikipedia contributors interested in Oregon know about it and can help to improve the article. If you're interested, this is the Wikipedia working group on improving Oregon articles, which has a list of articles and a discussion board. I wasn't able to find a freely usable photograph of the event so I found one of pear blossom in the town. If you have a photo of your own of the event and want to add it, you can do that here (it would need to be one you took or hold all rights to). Blythwood (talk) 17:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]