User talk:Miriam.Ela.Malt

Welcome!

Hi Miriam and welcome to Wikipedia! I've written some advice for past students in your class at Longy which you might find helpful. You'll find it here. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page (User talk:Voceditenore), or place {{helpme}} here on your talk page, ask your question, and another editor will come along to help. You might also be interested in WikiProject Classical music, WikiProject Composers, and WikiProject Opera. They have various guidelines for articles in this area and talk pages where you can ask advice from editors experienced in writing articles on classical music and related subjects. You'll find these guides particularly useful: WikiProject Composers: Guide to online research and WikiProject Composers: Copyright guidelines. Happy editing and best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Voceditenore!! I've chosen my topic for class, and it's Tom Alonso's obscure Phantom of the Opera musical. The odd thing about this topic is that although I will have a few accessible sources, such as newspaper articles and Tom's website, the majority of my information will be directly from communication with Tom, book writer Michael Tilford, and director Toby Orenstein, along with a video recording of the original production that almost no one has access to. How will I cite all that information?? I also want to know what you think my organization should be like - I was thinking of including sections for history/writing process, casts (1992 and 2008), synopsis, and reception but I don't know what else - and if there are any questions you think I should ask Tom or the others. Thanks a lot! Miriam.Ela.Malt (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miriam! Your topic may prove problematic for a stand-alone article given the relative obscurity of the work and the composer and the lack of published sources. The problem is, we cannot source articles to unpublished first-hand information, e.g. private interviews and communications. This policy page explains more about that. As for a model, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure has some suggested guidelines on this. Also, take a look at The Whirl of New York for a short bare-bones article, My Fair Lady for a more developed one, and Carousel for one which has achieved "Featured Article" status. Hope that helps. Voceditenore (talk) 08:02, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Teahouse

Hi. Me again. I wanted to let you know about another resource for beginners—Wikipedia's Teahouse. It's a place providing great support for new editors. You can ask questions (no question is too basic) and get helpful answers and advice from experienced editors. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 07:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Phantom of the Opera (1992 musical)

Hi Miriam. Unfortunately I had to remove the synopsis from the draft. It was a verbatim copy from this file on tomalonso.com. Even if the source is acknowledged, Wikipedia does not allow the re-publication of copyright material in our articles. If you want to include a synopsis, you need to write brief summaries of each act in your own words. The Wikipedia Manual of Style recommends that plot summaries be at most 700 words and has other useful writing tips for summarizing plots. Now, about publishing the draft... The Articles for Creation process is severely backlogged with over 2000 drafts awaiting review. I could move this directly into article space for you, but I feel I should warn you that the notability of this musical is still fairly marginal given that there have been very few performances and they have not been in prominent venues. Likewise, the press coverage has been pretty local. It might get nominated for deletion and might not survive the discussion. Would you like me to move it anyway and take your chances? Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll write a new synopsis the first chance I get. Would there be any advantage in waiting for the article to be reviewed (after the new synopsis of course) rather than letting you move it? If not, I'll definitely take my chances. Just let me get the synopsis written and please make sure the wording is passable. Thanks again --Miriam.Ela.Malt (talk) 04:55, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Phantom of the Opera (1992 musical) (January 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by LaMona was:

This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the general guideline on notability and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.
What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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LaMona (talk) 22:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Phantom of the Opera (1992 musical) concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Phantom of the Opera (1992 musical), a page you created, has not been edited in 6 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Your draft article, Draft:Phantom of the Opera (1992 musical)

Hello, Miriam.Ela.Malt. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Phantom of the Opera".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 04:00, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]