User talk:Mike65535

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Re: Shawn Colvin Just curious, where did you hear she was single, because according to her Imdb page she's still married. No granted Imdb is off about a lot of things, I'm just curious where your info came from. kc12286 17:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)kc12286[reply]

Mt Gulaga: Please cite your sources and sign your posts

You raised the possibility that Mount Gulaga might be several hundred kilometres south. The article is actually referenced with a NSW location[1]. If there is another Mountain by that name in Tasmania, it is not listed in the Australian gazetteer at www.ga.gov.au Could you please provide a source for what you have read?

Also please, when you add content to talk pages, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also push the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --A Y Arktos\^talk 10:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, it seems you figured out who I was anyway - perhaps wiki should think about making signatures automatic?

I answered this question on the Mount Gulaga page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mount_Gulaga

--Mike 14:37, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As per the response at Mt Gulaga: Firstly, you didn't make it clear in your intital post that you were talking about Mt Dromedary, not Mt Gulaga - bit confusing, another good argument for citing your sources straight up, it would have been then obvious what you were talking about. Happy to note that there is a Mt Dromedary in Tasmania. Is it notable, does it have a wikipedia article? Will it get one soon? As per the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), we only disambigate redlinks when we are confident that an encyclopedia article could be written on the subject. ... Adding links to articles not yet written should be done with care. There is no need to brainstorm all occurrences of the page title and create redlinks to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics.. For the moment I will put a redirect tag onto the top of this one. Mt Dromedary in NSW named by Cook is relatively more notable in my opinion than the Tasmanian one but perhaps that is my limited geographical perspective. Happy to discuss further when, and if, the Tasmanian article is written. I have created a disambiguation page at Mount Dromedary (disambiguation) and a top link redirect on the Mt Gulaga article to redirect to that dab page. There are of course more Mt Dromedary's than those in Australia but to date there appears no conflict with the one at Tilba Tilba. However, the dab link should save on the confusion you reported.

On the subject of signatures, the reason that they are not automatic I presume is they are not of course used in articles. All postings are available in the history but signatures on talk pages make discussion easier by helping other users to identify the author of a particular comment, to navigate talk pages, and to address specific comments to the relevant user(s), among other things. It may be that an editor is making a minor adjustment to a talk page post and wouldn't want a signature stamped all over it - hence also no automatic stamping on the talk page. I used the history to figure out that it was you who had made the contribution and added an unsigned tag - took me time and is a boring chore. I note you signed your later post - thank you. Signing on talk pages is a strongly recommended guideline discussed at Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages.--A Y Arktos\^talk 21:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages

Hi

You wrote: Also, so far it has not been clear to me as to what screen/method to use to start/continue/reply to a conversation. Do I try to write on your page, or edit mine, or? Part of the confusion lies in the fact that wiki seemingly uses basically the same interface/software to generate articles as it uses for talk, etc. Cute, but not always clear, and in the case of talks/discussions/whatever, as you point out, there can be no way to have automatic signing. I've never used any kind of chat/forum whereby the author of the comment was not immediately identifiable. Maybe Wiki should think about this. Maybe something's in the FAQ, but so far I've missed it.

There are no rules as to whether I try to write on your page, or edit mine, or? but if you plan on replying on your own page, you would normally say so in the talk page header - see for example User talk:Essjay.

Conversations about the article belong on the article talk page usually. User talk pages are used to communicate with other users or leave them messages. As the conversation is pretty immediate, the thread is apparent to the users involved and an outsider may need to look at both pages to follow the thread but it wasn't meant for them to read particularly, except that the wikipedia is public and one is accountable through the publicly available talk pages. See Help:Talk page for more and for further links.

The author of any comment is identifiable, if not immediately, through the history. Wikiquette strongly suggests signatures as that helps follow who said what and when. Page history identifies all contributions regardless of space and can be done by contributer as well as by page and not just edits but actions too. For example {{user|AYArktos}} gives AYArktos (talk · contribs); {{admin|AYArktos}} gives AYArktos (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA); and {{vandal|AYArktos}} gives AYArktos (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) so it doesn't take much to find what anybody has done. For articles, there is also a template which gives easy links - ie {{article|Mount Gulaga}} gives Mount Gulaga (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and the history can be easily seen. There are of course tabs for history at the top of every page. So although not immediately identifiable, any editors contributions are definitely identifiable in multiple different permutations.

Sorry to take a while to get back to you. Hope this helps. Regards--A Y Arktos\^talk 01:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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