User talk:Mfwitten

Your revert of USB

Please check your grammar: "In general, there are four basic kinds or sizes related to the USB connectors and types of established connection" is not correct. It's either "types of connections" (what it was before your edit and what I reverted to) or (clumsy) "types of an established connection". The rest of your corrections are pretty much the same, mixing up singular and plural:

"There are two types of pipe" must be plural "pipes"
"limited by the current number and type of attached USB devices" must be plural "types" because there may be several types and not just one
"Types of USB connector" – same thing

Must I go on? Zac67 (talk) 17:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're wrong. Would you say the following?

There is one type of pipes.

The type of the objects is "pipe"; there are two [sub]types of pipe. In other words, you are merely supporting a widespread heuristic error. Mfwitten (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please check http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/5539/types-of-things-vs-types-of-thing – I won't even bother you with search engine voting (which can be wrong at times) but "types of connector" isn't serious, is it? Have you just a single RS for your claim? Zac67 (talk) 18:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Superior possessive form"

Use -s's instead of -s' only when you would naturally pronounce an extra s if you said the word out loud. Use only the apostrophe (without the s) when you would not pronounce an extra s or when making the possessive of a plural noun already ending in s (e.g., Beatles' or Stones' ). Source: Oxford dictionaries. Furthermore, this sort of thing is not a "minor edit" because it is open to disagreement. - Embram (talk) 00:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is "Touchstone Pictures" a plural noun? I would say it is not; then again, there are plenty of [non-American] English speakers who would even say that, e.g., "Walmart" or "IBM" is a plural noun… Mfwitten (talk) 06:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you say the phrase Touchstone Pictures' new film out loud, do you pronounce an additional s at the end (i.e., do you say Pictures-es)? If not, then you shouldn't add an s after the apostrophe. - Embram (talk) 11:04, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do, for the same reason that I pronounce an additional "s" in "Mr. Williams's new film". However, logically consistent though it may be, I'd never put myself in that position for aesthetic reasons—it sounds terrible; I'd rather say, for example, "new film by Touchstone Pictures".

If you say "Touchstone Pictures' new film", then it sounds like "Touchstone Picture's new film", from which a listener might erroneously infer that the name of the company is "Touchstone Picture" rather than "Touchstone Pictures". You are losing information, and thus language is failing. Mfwitten (talk) 17:49, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Then rather than break the rule by adding the extra s, I'd just just write it the other way round (e.g., "new film by Touchstone Pictures") which I agree is the better choice. - Embram (talk) 22:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Graham Hancock. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. There has been a lot of discussion about the wording of the introduction, and there is consensus that the current version is neutral and factual. Please have a look at the talk page, and discuss there if you want to try to change the consensus in favour of another wording. bonadea contributions talk 22:04, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did nothing of the sort. Your mind is warped. Mfwitten (talk)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Graham Hancock, you may be blocked from editing.

Use the talk page to discuss your edits, as they are not uncontroversial. Please don't edit war - I'm sure you have seen enough cases where that ends badly, in your years here. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 22:07, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did nothing of the sort. Your mind is warped. Mfwitten (talk)

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I did nothing of the sort. Your mind is warped. Mfwitten (talk)

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Particularly egregious because (a) plenty of warnings wre given to you, (b) you accuse others of edit warring while doing it yourself, and (c) your edit is clearly against consensus on talk page, as has been explained to you several times. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:26, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The article in question is clearly being edited with a pejorative motive in mind. The edit warring was not performed by me, but rather by other people, as can be seen clearly by the opinionated, pejorative content that is being restored.

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See WP:NOTTHEM. You are edit warring against multiple editors. NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:34, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You don't appear to understand what "edit warring" is. Please see WP:Edit warring. You most certainly were edit warring. If you dislike the way an article is worded, and you are reverted, you have to gain consensus for your edit on the article talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:32, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your implication is that Wikipedia welcomes pejorative content, so long as there is a cabal organized well enough to keep it in place. Fine, if I am blocked for edit warring, then so should the others: Block them as well for as long, and we'll have agreement; otherwise, unblock me.

No, you're the only one who broke WP:3RR. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And why didn't the others breach the rule? Because they are a well-organized cabal, each member of which takes his turn reverting edits. My point stands. Mfwitten (talk)

Um... I'm waiting for an answer... Mfwitten (talk)

Multiple editors disagreed with your edits. Multiple editors reverted you. This is nothing out of the ordinary as we have editors coming in like bulls in china shops every day, ignoring what everyone else is saying. You should've used the talk page long before you breached WP:3RR. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Since you "answered" your own question the same time you asked it, I assumed it was rhetorical. The others weren't blocked because none of them came close to making the number of reverts you made. We keep leaving you links to WP:3RR and WP:Edit warring, but I feel like you're not reading them. In addition, although it doesn't excuse edit warring, a mitigating factor is that they were restoring wording that achieved consensus on the article talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:20, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't negate the issue of a cabal. You're still failing to account for a cabal. Try again. Mfwitten (talk)

What you call a "cabal" the rest of us call "4-5 editors who all disagree with Mfwitten". I've explained the block, and the duration, per WP:ADMINACCT, and can see now that you intend to be a timesink, so I am not going to answer any more questions. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See begging the question. And the response to being a timesink in this area is usually a topic ban. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:27, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is. Mfwitten (talk)

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Thanks you for taking the time to cool the dispute. In fact, that's what I was trying to do, as explained in the talk page of that article. Unfortunately, you have not reverted the article to the "pre-edit-war" version, but rather to the version that marks the beginning of the edit war; my version of the edit preserved the information in question, but moved to a dedicated place so that it could be expounded constructively. Mfwitten (talk) 22:00, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I was the one attempting to prevent the continuation of an edit war between other editors. Mfwitten (talk) 23:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... by undoing their edits? Huon (talk) 23:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

No, there was an ongoing discussion in the Talk page. I mean, why am I the one who got blocked? First come first served to the admins? If there's an ongoing attempt to resolve the dispute, then it's easy to "win" just by ganging up, it would seem. Mfwitten (talk) 23:33, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You continued to edit war despite the ongoing discussion by reverting four times within the space of an hour and a half. One other person reverted twice, two more reverted only once - you're blocked because you were the one pushing "your preferred version" instead of waiting for consensus to be formed from the discussion. stwalkerster (talk) 23:43, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I do not have a preferred version, as can be seen in the discussion. This is a lie; I was never pushing any particular version, only trying to get the warring editors to figure out a version that others wouldn't dispute. Mfwitten (talk) 23:45, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you're wrong or right. It doesn't matter what version you preferred. You were edit warring, and you undeniably violated the three revert rule. I don't even have to consider the content or any of the other conversations on this page to come to this conclusion. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 00:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

The 3-revert rule is so easy to game for special interest groups; it's a flawed concept. Don't unblock me. Ever. Mfwitten (talk) 01:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok. Kuru (talk) 01:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"special interest group"

Mfwitten—I am not a member of a "special interest group". I am merely transcribing information from a good quality source to an article. I am sorry you are blocked. Your argument isn't with other editors, whether they be part of a special interest group or not. Your real argument is with The New York Times. They prominently state this is an issue involving a black person and a white person. I think it would take another reliable source to take precedence over or to modify that reliable source (The New York Times). I don't care whether the terms "black" and "white" are in the article or not. It is not that I am a member of a special interest group. But I do care about adhering to sources. And so far the sources are saying that the terms "black" and "white" are applicable. Bus stop (talk) 02:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request

Shouldn't this be lightened up to 2 or 3 days? Why block for 2 weeks? The message has been sent that edit-warring is impermissible and will be met with blocks. I was in dispute with Mfwitten and I think their position was not entirely unreasonable. I appeal to the blocking editors (El C, Huon, Stwalkerster, jpgordon, Kuru) to make a goodwill gesture and reduce the length of the block. Bus stop (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I went with the last block for edit warring as a basis for the current duration. El_C 22:13, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There are mitigating circumstances. I think Mfwitten did not want to make a bad situation worse. I am sympathetic to that. I know we are not here to right great wrongs, but in racially charged news events Wiki has the possibility of understatement, and that can be heard in Mfwitten's arguments. They weren't arguing for elimination of that information, merely less prominent placement. Bus stop (talk) 22:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The user has not expressed anything resembling an introspective or reflective acknowledgment that their edit warring was problematic, so I'm not inclined to reduce the block length at this time. El_C 22:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how these are mitigating circumstances for edit warring, much less for 3RR. I agree with El C; the user hasn't indicated they know why they are blocked. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 01:58, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully Mfwitten will weigh in to this thread. Bus stop (talk) 03:04, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with El C and Jpgordon. In their latest "unblock request" alone, Mfwitten tries the "the others made me do it" defense and simultaneously indicates that he believes that those who disagreed with him and reverted him were deliberately gaming the rules, driven by "special interests". That doesn't bode well. What I haven't seen anywhere is an acknowledgement of responsibility for their own actions, a promise not to repeat the same conduct, and an indication of what they'd do instead if they found themselves in a similar situation again. Huon (talk) 20:13, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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