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I've replied here instead of the IP address, I hope you don't mind. Yes, I agree the 178,000 population figure vastly understates the region's population and size. How about this?

Salt Lake City has a population of 178,858 as of 2008. [3] The Salt Lake City metropolitan area spans Salt Lake, Summit and Tooele counties, and has a total estimated population of 1,018,826. Salt Lake City is further situated in a larger urban area known as the Wasatch Front, and until 2003 the Ogden-Clearfield metro area within it was considered part of the Salt Lake City metropolitan area.[4] The total estimated population of the Wasatch Front is approximately 2,150,000. [this is the addition now] While Salt Lake City is only a marginal portion of the entire Salt Lake Valley, the entire valley is usually referred to as "Salt Lake City."

I didn't want to mention anything else because most of the metro area details are already there. What do you think? C L — 19:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delayed response - still getting Internet sorted out at my new post here in Moscow. The addition sentence is fine, though I think I'd say "often" rather than "usually." But I think that's pretty well covered elsewhere in the article.

The point I was trying to get at is more along the lines of [proposed addition] "Its population figure understates the feel of the city, since its growth has long since exceeded the city limits established in the mid-1800s."

My thinking is that people see 178,000 and think they are coming to a Jackson, Mississippi or Amarillo or Brownsville, Texas. Then they arrive and find something that feels more like Buffalo or Colorado Springs or even Albuquerque. One reason is because places like Millcreek, South Salt Lake and Sugarhouse have sort of lost their pioneer-era identity and been economically and culturally subsumed. (Sugarhouse, for that matter, now lies partly inside and partly outside the city.) That's what I meant by 21st South being a little artificial as a boundary. Then, many of the adjoining cities like Murray, Midvale and West Valley have also lost (or never really had) their own distinctive character. Nobody makes these mistakes with California or the Atlantic coast; everyone expects Los Angeles to run unbroken into Irvine, Anaheim, Whittier, etc., or that Washington DC becomes Hyattsville becomes Greenbelt becomes Laurel and so on to Baltimore and beyond. But when most people think of Utah, they don't think of urban sprawl.

Anyway, see what you think. It's not what I would consider a critical edit by any means. Meservy (talk) 07:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First off, excuse me for my belated response. I seemed to have not watchlisted this page. Also, I understand the reason for your belated response, as I assume that being a diplomat is a very important job and whatnot. Anyway, I totally agree with your reasoning, as many people don't think of Salt Lake to contain a metro area of 1,000,000+ people. How about this addition? I think we can combine the two somehow, but make it sound like NPOV too:

While Salt Lake City is only a marginal portion of the entire Salt Lake Valley, the entire valley is usually referred to as "Salt Lake City." Its population figure understates the feel of the city, since its growth has long since exceeded the city limits established in the mid-1800s.

I'll go ahead and add that, and we can change it as needed. Take your time with the reply and good luck with the new post out in Russia. Regards, C L — 23:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. I think that's good, succinct, NPOV and gets the accurate impression across. Thanks for your all your help. Regards from hot (though probably not as hot as SLC) Moscow, Meservy (talk) 11:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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These have the complete list of all members of the quorums of seventy. --Trödel 01:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for those. I hadn't been aware. Could both links perhaps be added to the Seventy article? What do you think? Meservy (talk) 16:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyright tag added. Thanks for the notice. Meservy (talk) 06:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t remember doing this. It’s possible I saw a reference somewhere, but it’s uncharacteristic of me not to include a reference. I’m puzzled and can’t explain the edit. Go ahead and remove it. Meservy (talk) 17:45, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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