User talk:Merlet

Welcome!

Hello, Merlet, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Merle Terlesky

I've raised this on the Biographies of Living Persons noticeboard here: Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Merle_Terlesky. You may wish to comment. Reginald Perrin 01:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your picture

Hi Mr. Telesky - I'd suggest that you contact the Wikimedia Foundation directly about this issue if you're concerned that the presence of your picture poses a danger to your safety. The foundation's contact information, as well as the contact information of its legal agent, is here. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 18:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've brought the matter up for discussion here. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits could give editors of Wikipedia the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that this is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a genuine dispute with the Community or its members, please use dispute resolution. Reggie Perrin (talk)

March 2008

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for making legal threats. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia as long as the threat stands. If you believe that a legal action is warranted, you may contact our information team at info-en@wikimedia.org and they may forward it to our legal counsel or a more appropriate venue. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. _(1 == 2)^Until 22:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{unblock|I wish to issue a sincere apology for what seemed like a legal threat to staff at wiklepdia. That was not my intention at all. I was contacting the Police, about my own local security and nothing more. I am sorry for the mix-up and please remove the edit block. Thanks. Merle.}}

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

User apologized - see above. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request handled by: עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of how you may feel about this issue, statements like this are not acceptable. And using an IP to do so and avoid being held accountable for it make it even worse. Accordingly, you are blocked for 12 hours. Blueboy 96 20:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having reviewed that statement, I see it contained yet another legal threat. You are blocked indefinitely. Blueboy 96 20:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear.

You seem to have ended up blocked, due to legal threats. I'm afraid that plays rather badly on Wikipedia. On the whole it's better to try to work with people, on the assumption that they are not actually out to get you, and try for compromise. If you want to withdraw the threats and settle down to discuss this calmly, I can probably unblock you, or alternatively you can take this up with the foundation. If you email info-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org with any specific errors of fact and other concerns, volunteers will try to help you. On the whole, though, it's better to withdraw the threats and try a bit of calm. I hope this helps, Guy (Help!) 20:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sorry, but I dont see where there are any more legal threats towards wik as I never made any? The truth is here the matter is look at what this guy did with my pic after seeimng it on wik. he has made me a target.

http://marcelthemaoist.blogspot.com/2008/03/merle-terlesky.html

he is a radical communist that has targeted me. Hence my point. I never had any intention of suing WIK at all.

Hi Merle - actually, it's legal threats against anybody that are blockable. It's not that we don't recognize your right to seek recourse through the courts against anybody who may have wronged you, it's just that we don't want legal disputes seeking on to Wikipedia. I'd be happy to unblock you if you'd agree to refrain from legal threats and personal attacks, though, now that things have been more clearly explained to you. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it would also be helpful if you wouldn't go around calling people things like "commies" and "fanatical muslims". You may consider the statements to be true, but it can really poison the discourse. And before you point to the things that User:Mista-X has said about you, please note that he's currently serving a two week block for his comments. We do take that sort of thing seriously. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please, please, finally address the issue of why you chose to put your own picture on your own web pages like this. You keep blaming other people for revealing your image, when you are the one who first willingly made it public. We can't make private what you made public. --Rob (talk) 06:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Rob, but there are moderate Muslims and then there are exremists ones like Al-queda what should I call the latter to please you? Ok fine no more commie I will use communists. I did not make that last pic willingly public as it was taken w/o my say so.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlet (talk • contribs)

But you did make other pics public willingly. So, how does an extra pic of you harm your security if you're image is already public, by your choice. Also, if you prefer a picture that you posed for, you are quite welcome to submit an image of your choosing, that will be used. You claim we're hurting your safety by doing the same thing you're doing, which is nonsense. Also, note, there are multiple people in this discussion, and you're mixing up statements by me, with other people. --Rob (talk) 14:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rob when you look at someone as well known and controversial on here as Ezra Levant,well he has no pic at all? So why me, because a few people want it? like a radical communist self proclaimed by the name of Mista-X? I have my reasons as I have stated and yes its my personal security and I dont have to divulge all that to you a perfect stranger. You know there are starving kids in Africa and thats more important than my pic on Wik here. good grief this is all getting very very silly. Its me not you and you miss that point.

p.s Rob I apologize as the comments about my comments were not made by you, but rather Mista-X —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlet (talk • contribs)

Dear Yamla,

Once again I am sorry for any misunderstanding, I dont know what else to do when it comes to my rep being attacked. I will refrain from any legal threats towards Wik or Wik editors from hereon in.

Merle

Hi. The main reason articles don't have pictures is that we have fairly stringent criteria for use of unfree (i.e. not public domain) images, see WP:NFCC. It doesn't mean one subject got to remove his image, it means no public domain image of that person can be found.

Now, you may have trenchant opinions on muslim militants, communists, or even Methodists, for all I know, but you really need to bite your tongue when discussing them on Wikipedia, and above all you need not to attribute motives to individuals editing here. Can we just take it as read that you're ticked, and move on, please? Guy (Help!) 23:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i agree guy and I will try harder here to keep calm and be reasonable as blueboy blocked me.. oops

I simply did not understand all the rules and lost my cool, could you email blueboy and explain for me as I did email him as well.

merlet@shaw.ca

Hi. I was forwarded a copy of your voicemail; thanks for the clarification, repeated here, that no legal threat was intended. I'd like to suggest that if things get tense you mail me or one of the OTRS team (info-en at wikimedia dot org, you've already contacted that address, I see). I have to tell you that there can be no guarantee that a picture will not be used in the article, that is a matter for thought and reflection, but I would like to think that people will at least treat you with respect and decency, and if there is any descent into incivility or personalising the dispute then action will be taken. We absolutely understand that you are upset. I'd also agree entirely that the rules of Wikipedia are complex and often apparently perverse; there's a good introduction at "the five pillars of Wikipedia", but the things you need to know about right now are the policy on biographies, the civility guideline, you already know about no legal threats and no personal attacks, we also have a dispute resolution process. Hopefully it will not be necessary to make you jump through too many hoops, though, since we are the ones who know policy and you are just an upset subject of an article. Please feel free to ask for help here or on the talk page of your article; several people are now watching both. The style of parliamentary language is probably closest to describing the way interaction between users is interpreted on Wikipedia, and I think you'll have no problem with that. Guy (Help!) 09:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Guy as you seem very reasonable. I am not here to cause problems, but nor can I be treated unfairly as you may know not everything people post on the internet is true.

thanks,

Merle

Yes, absolutely. And I hope you will understand that WP:NPOV, our policy, does not mean that you will necessarily like what is written, but I'd hope that in the end we can all agree it's fair. Guy (Help!) 21:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked

I've unblocked you, given your most recent comments. Please understand that your unblock is contingent on

refraining from legal threats, explicit or implied, against anybody; and
behaving civilly to other users (not accusing them of being Communists, extremist Muslims, etc., even if you think they are).

If people are uncivil to you, as User:Mista-X was, don't reply in kind. As I said, he's been blocked, and others who violate persistently violate civility policy will be as well; no point in getting yourself caught up in it. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 02:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

agreed and thank you...merlet

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