User talk:Melicans/Archive 5

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Between the horses of love and lust
We are trampled underfoot

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— U2, So Cruel

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Deleting my Page

Why didn't you consult me before redirecting Like a Song? Daniel.M (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The article for "Like a Song..." has been deleted twice previously, making it a candidate for WP:CSD. The article was composed of just three sentences, some of it POV, and none of it sourced. I've searched through several references, including the internet, "U2 by U2", "U2 Propaganda", and "U2 - Into the Heart: The Story Behind Every Song", but could find no more information to include into the article. As I am currently revamping the War page in an effort to get it to GA, I decided to be bold and merge those three sentences into the War article. A merge is not a deletion. In a merge, you are condensing the information on the page and transferring it to another article. In a deletion, the information is removed entirely.

Finally, nobody owns Wikipedia articles. Yes, it is generally a good idea to consult other editors who have contributed to a page/Wikiproject before doing any major editing to page, but that isn't necessary for three sentences. Not every song needs to have it's own article. Songs like "Grace", "Drowning Man", "Silver and Gold", "Wild Honey", and yes, "Like A Song..." just don't have enough real-world information to warrant their own articles. I am aware that some of the songs I have listed do have their own articles, but they should not and I do plan to merge them before long after longer discussion within the U2 WikiProject. MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon

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Smile!

WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

And if I may say, good job with [1]. I was trying for figure out how to fix it, but couldn't find a good revision. :P Happy editing! -WarthogDemon 01:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Shaymin

No offense, but there are better, more spectacular, and less trivial April Fool's Jokes to be pulled.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 12:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Prehistoric Park

Here is my test page for my big OR edits User:T.Neo/Prehistoric park Tell me what you think. T.Neo (talk) 18:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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Battle of Vimy Ridge

Battle of Vimy Ridge is currently under peer review in an effort to get it to A or FA quality. The article has greatly improved over the pas few months but still needs work. I am sending out a notice to individuals who have contributed on the talk page to help with a copy-edit. Fresh eyes are always helpful. All the best. Labattblueboy (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Pokemon media template

I see you have replaced all the Template:Pokémon films and Template:Pokémon games with Template:Pokemon media. Good work, but... I suggested a few days ago to rename it to Template:Pokémon. No big deal, because Template:Pokemon media will automatically redirect to Template:Pokémon after the move, but I just thought I'd let you know. Cheers, Face 09:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that's no problem at all; I actually replaced them all with Template:Pokemon media because that's what Template:Pokémon currently redirects to. Thanks for keeping me updated on that though. MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Left Jéské a note. Cheers, Face 21:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply

You have a reply at my discussions page. -Jéské Couriano ^{(v^_^v)} 04:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

By the way, don't bother warning them. They're all one-off dynamic addies and OPs and Grawp meatpuppets besides. -Jéské Couriano ^{(v^_^v)} 04:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the heads-up on that. MelicansMatkin (talk) 04:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't bother warning anyone vandalising Jeske's page.

Honestly, you'll just be wasting seconds you could be using to accomplish things with. The vandal will never see the warning and the IP will be blocked seconds later anyway. HalfShadow 04:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Jeske warned me only seconds before you did. I didn't realize they were being blocked immediately. Thanks for the heads-up on that. MelicansMatkin (talk) 04:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Revert

Turn this, into this ;-) - If some silly billy is writing things like that, WP:RBI might save you having to expend energy typing in an edit summary. Just a thought though. Keep up the great work! Scarian ^{Call me Pat!} 10:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the suggestion; unfortunately though, I'm unable to block vandalism-only accounts as I'm not an administrator. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

NLOTH

It's out there in full already. Shame you don't have e-mail. I've only had it 30mins, but I think it could be better than anything since AB. There's 1000's of posts over at interference. 2009 is "there year". Great to see you keeping out the good work here. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 11:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the heads-up. With Universal being the source this time I really wonder how they managed to mess that up. I haven't listened to it yet; I'm gonna hold out for at least March 2nd. But that's mostly because my laptop's busted and the computer I'm on now doesn't have speakers (plus a broken soundcard). Great to now that it's the best thing since Achtung though, especially as that's my favourite album. I really have high hopes now! MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

No Line on the Horizon

Allmusic's review was posted when I edited the page. However, there appears to be a problem on Allmusic's end where the page doesn't always display the review, which is what must have happened when you tried clicking the link. I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy is if a link doesn't always work, so I didn't undo your change. I'll let somebody else edit the Wikipedia entry once Allmusic gets the problem sorted out. Ruiner2001 (talk) 22:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up; I didn't view it the first two times I checked it, but I was able to on the third. The same thing happened when I viewed the link for How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. I'd suggest waiting for a few hours before changing, just to give Allmusic time to work out the problem; it's been an ongoing issue for me since the morning, so maybe after a day or so it will be okay. MelicansMatkin (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

at U2

Are you aware of http://www.atu2.com/. Their news section could be a great resource for u2 articles. --Merbabu (talk) 14:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I've often used it when editing No Line on the Horizon to try and replace the links to the "Next album" section, since it'll be wiped clear when the next album starts being made. I've never gone further back than 2007 though, so it's something I'll have to check out more thoroughly in the future. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

10 review rule

are you on chat? gmail or MSN? i see you have no e-mail. It would be good if you can e-mail me - no probs if you can't though. --Merbabu (talk) 07:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

that's ok. It was about getting the new album article unlooked but it's all fixed now. --Merbabu (talk) 22:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Composition and content section

I removed your heading because I don't think it's necessary yet to split the album's history into a section dedicated to talking about the songs. I tried to explain my point of view here. Feel free to leave your thoughts. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 15:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Mudkipz

Ok add it i wont remove it but if someone else dose you will have to talk to them about it. And sorry if i ever made you feel like i was attacking you. Cheers Kyle1278 (talk) 02:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi MelicansMatkin, Thank you very much for the barnstar. I also appreciate it. Cheers :-)) Marek.69 ^talk 05:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

White as Snow DYK

It's probably going to be difficult to get his one to meet the criteria at WP:DYK#DYK_rules in time. Basically, as long as the article is long enough and the hook that you choose is in the lead and cited, it's worth submitting. A good hook for that article, for example, would have been: "Did you know that the song "White as Snow" on U2's latest album, No Line on the Horizon (2009), was written from the perspective of a soldier serving in Afghanistan?" But you'd need a citation in the article that specifically states that. If you're able to get the article expanded to over 1500 characters today, I'd go with something like that. Best of luck, --JD554 (talk) 07:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

No there's nothing you need to do now, just wait. I've only ever submitted two, and they were both accepted, so I'm not sure if it's guaranteed or not. Good luck --JD554 (talk) 07:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

The barnstar was very much appreciated, thank you. Now lets see about improvin gthe article to FA. All the best Labattblueboy (talk) 18:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation

Excuse me but how does this improve anyone's understanding of the article "Get on Your Boots"? You are not free to use unlicensed content in this way as freely as you have been doing. --140.203.12.240 (talk) 20:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Considering the fact that you have been tagged for vandalism multiple times and are an IP registered to a public institution, I am highly disinclined to take anything you have said into consideration. MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

barnstar

Thanks for the 'star! Much appreciated! LilHelpa (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for White as Snow (song)

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Shubinator (talk) 03:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Easy isn't it? Now for the triple crown. --JD554 (talk) 08:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for U2 360° Tour

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Royal broil 04:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Bulgarian charts listed on WP:BADCHARTS

I appreciate the effort on Get on Your Boots, but I had to delete the Bulgarian chart ... it's listed on WP:BADCHARTS. There's a few charts on acharts.us that are reliable mirrors of unreliable charts, and their Bulgarian chart is one of them.—Kww(talk) 02:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update; I knew the Brazilian chart was listed, but not the Bulgarian. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me personally. MelicansMatkin (talk) 02:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Photographer Sugimoto strikes a Stone Age deal with U2

Hi. In the "No Line on the Horizon" entry you mention that the "rip-off" issue is not worthy of mention. I agree. But this might be worth mentioning: Sugimoto has said in an interview today with the Japan Times that he has asked for no money for the photo use - that it was a barter "artist to artist." He also describes how he met Bono and how Bono was inspired by his photo to write the NLOTH song. The barter is that Sugimoto can now use that song. http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fa20090320a1.html Jjk;ww (talk) 07:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, thanks for the note. I've posted the link over on the talk page to see if we can work it in properly. Thanks again, MelicansMatkin (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey!

That's not a problem, i'm loving the success NLOTH is enjoying myself. I'm sure magnificent will be a top 10 hit, based on how its charting now! Suede67 (talk) 21:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I certainly hope so; I think it would have been a much better choice for a first single, but I have the feeling the band were trying to use something a bit more unusual to get everybody talking. It will be interesting to see how everything goes though! MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

When GOYB was released I was in two minds, I thought U2 was really going downhill or this was some kind of weird experimentation. But when the album released, thats a different thing! The songs are awesome, and GOYB kinda fits, especially after I saw Linear. Gives a whole new perspective on the songs. U2 are geniuses, yes! Suede67 (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's never been in doubt =P. But then, they've never really gone with a "normal" first single. Beautiful Day is the only one I can think of. I know a lot of people were likening it to "The Fly", which makes a lot of sense. I almost think that No line on the Horizon is Achtung Baby mark 2. An unusual first single, a fantastic album where the single makes a lot more sense, a quick follow-up album only a short time after, and a tour that defies any sense of normalcy. I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next I can tell you. MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

You nailed it! In fact, I think Zooropa isnt that bad itself, the title rack is one of my fav U2 songs. Again, it had "Numb" as an unusual first single hah! Suede67 (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Zooropa is in my top three albums as well. I think it generally has weaker songs than the rest of their catalogue, but all the tracks seem to gel perfectly with each other. There aren't any chart-toppers in there, but my favourite U2 songs are usually the ones that the general populace have never heard of. MelicansMatkin (talk) 00:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

You said it, the lesser known songs are generally the best :)) Slow dancing for me! Suede67 (talk) 00:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Hell yes! "So cruel" is one of the best on AB, amazing lyrics! Scarlet is beautiful too. In fact, Pop is in my top 4 U2 albums, JT, AB, Pop, TUF, in no particular order. Suede67 (talk) 00:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Very nice! I've never give OS1 enough listens! I'm guilty. I may do now. But slug and miss sarajevo are classics. I did forget about NLOTH haha, i think it will creep up to the top 5. Have to go now, early morning here in india. C ya Suede67 (talk) 01:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Sales

So even if i add both articles that give both the first and second week sales i can't post what they equal together? A user can simply go to each and see for themselves the difference in each week and add them together...

i don't see the big deal here. i'm providing accurate information with regards to sales using two credible sources. the purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide the user with the best/most current information possible is it not? which is what i'm continually trying to do. i'm not fabricating this stuff and it's not "original research." unless you consider me adding two numbers together...which would be lame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.7.241.89 (talk) 06:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware that it's "lame", but that's just the way it is. You need an accurate citation, not one that only describes the second-week sales. MelicansMatkin (talk) 14:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

But i included TWO articles: one with week one sales and the other with week two sales. it's simply a matter of adding the two figures together and therefore determining total sales thus far. i really don't see the problem...

The problem is that the sources are different. What if one of them is inaccurate? It will give an incorrect result. You need to find a source that has either cumulative sales, or lists both of them. Trust me, I've done almost nothing else but look for sources regarding sales numbers in my free time. We need a verifiable source, not original research. MelicansMatkin (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Requesting permission. =)

Could I move the following?

From List of Pokémon episodes (season 1) to List of Pokémon: Indigo League episodes

From List of Pokémon episodes (season 1) to List of Pokémon: Adventures On The Orange Islands episodes

From List of Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl episodes to List of Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl episodes

From List of Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl Battle Dimension episodes to List of Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl Battle Dimension episodes

and

From List of Pokémon: Diamond, Pearl & Platinum episodes to List of Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl Platinum episodes

Thanks in advance. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 17:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I have no objection, except perhaps to the last one. I think "List of Pokémon: Diamond, Pearl and Platinum episodes" would work better in conjunction with the other changes you've suggested. I'd recommend bringing it up at the Pokémon WikiProject beforehand though. MelicansMatkin (talk) 18:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your move to the Pokemon: Orange Islands page.

I just went by what the DVD's front cover said, but if that works better, thanks for moving it. =) - Eugene Krabs (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, it's just a simple grammatical thing. MelicansMatkin (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Magnificent (U2 song)

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Ha ha ha ha...

[2] --Merbabu (talk) 13:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

You should have seen the one that added "number of arms" to the infobox. MelicansMatkin (talk) 14:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

U2 3D A-Class nom

I have nominated U2 3D to be A-Class article for WikiProject Film at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Assessment/U2 3D. I would appreciate any feedback that you may leave for the article. Thank you. –Dream out loud (talk) 17:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Primeval Season 3 Episode 3

Yes i have seen this episode (which was run on Pro 7 in Germany this evening), so sorry for giving a spoiler for the UK watchers who have wait until Saturday --Melly42 (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not in the UK, but spoilers aren't the issue for me. There have been very few details released about the third season, and a lot of people have been adding summaries that are impossible to verify. I removed the information because I didn't know that the episode had already aired in Germany and, while we knew Cutter would be leaving, it hadn't been stated when. Since the episode has aired however, I'll reinstate the information. Thanks for letting me know about the German airing. MelicansMatkin (talk) 21:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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