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Seasons Greetings

Matt, my very best wishes for the festive season stay safe and talk to you in 2009.
(PS Trust you are enjoying your break).--VS ^talk 11:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

John Stuart Hepburn

G'day Mate, I need some advice please. I found a picture of John Hepburn on the net here. Since Hepburn died in 1860 I'm thinking the image should be public domain? I'd love to put it on the article but not sure how to go about accessing old images without breaking the rules? Any suggestions? Cheers --Sting Buzz Me... 12:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I'll get onto it tomorrow sometime.--Sting Buzz Me... 12:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

John Stuart Hepburn  Done--Sting Buzz Me... 03:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Errors in cricket books

I am compiling a list of Perryisms. At least 15 in 25 pages in the 1948 chapter of Miller's Luck. Having said that, I do note that Fingleton's Brightly Fades The Don also seems to be a bit loose in some places, saying that Loxton made his Test debut at Old Trafford and forgetting that he debuted against India the season before. Seems a bit odd. And I spotted a few more. Maybe in the old days, they didn't check things as carefully as the likes of Haigh and Frith nowadays or Fingo was a bit more of the poetic pundit. But the Roebuck articles nowadays don't have the same factual errors, although Roebuck does seem to be a bit sweeping and vague with the data when he is talking in the commentary, not so in print. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Added some more to the list! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: this edit. I added the note because being a BLP, I thought it only fair to make the same disclosure than Haigh made himself in the essay I pulled the quote from. Without a doubt, any reasonably knowledgeable cricket scholar would come to the same conclusion but given that reviews this one ("Perry's work, much like Bradman himself, is head and shoulders above the competition") exist I thought it prudent to be fair. However, happy to be guided by your opinion on this topic. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 06:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Reading down the page of the attached review I see your comment! Hear, hear I say. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 06:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

This review of another book of his may be worth reading as well! -- Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 07:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I tried adding the link to my article although it probably got cut off as a spamming attempt. Pity I haven't bought anything on amazon it won't let me post there. I tried posting on the ABC shop as well don't know if it got through yet. Maybe I should drop the ABC a line about them having only the best writers please. And as for Gideon Haigh, he pointed that footnote out to me when I emailed him with my list of Perryisms. :) Of course I guess we can note that Haigh made his own disclosure. I'll tell him of your opnion of him wrt Perry though! YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Teehee. I popped onto the ABC Bookshop and left a review there as well! I wonder if anyone will read it. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Hassett

Are you going to write him up? If so you probably don't have to do the 1948 section, I've knocked something up on my hard drive for a separate fork of that to save you the trouble, as you said you were going to do it. I think we're almost there on the Invincibles as far as the meat goes. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Bullarto

Did you mean: Dan Quayle? Yeah I know my spelling is atroshus. Espeshly wen I rush to much. Hurts your ears looking at it doesn't it ;-) --Sting Buzz Me... 23:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear Mattinbgn, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Day, and that 2009 brings further success and happiness! ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Doug Ring

Tackled some of the points made in the GA review, but I think at least one of them can only be done by someone on your side of the globe! Also (shamefacedly) I haven't a clue how to transclude my comments on to the Talk page (feeble, I know). Cheers. Johnlp (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 23:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Did you spot that Doug Ring made it through to GA? Good stuff. Well done. Johnlp (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Wikimedia Commons

Thankyou for the tip. I also really like the contributions and images you have made to/for Victorian articles too. It looks like you've visited a lot of places. I find it a lot easier and faster to upload to Wikipedia than Commons but in the future I will try to upload to Commons instead. Thanks, JamesA ^>talk 02:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Mashrafe Mortaza

Hey. I'll do through the Doug Ring article again and see if i can find anything else. Anyway, you going to finish up the review on the guy above? Looks like it's been a while. Wizardman 02:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I've addressed all your comments. Nev1 (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for a thorough review. Having listened to Test Match Special so much, I hadn't realised how much jargon I'd picked up, but on reflection something like "unbeaten", while clear to cricket fans, is impenetrable to anyone else. I'll try to keep an eye on it in future. Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 15:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I'll be taking the article to FAC in the near future. Articles like this require regular updates, and while I could handle that, whether each update would be up to FA standards is debatable. Taking FA criterion 1e ("content does not change significantly from day to day") literally, it would be fine, but after a year the article would be noticeably different from the one promoted. I think if I were to take an article on a cricketer to FAC, it would be on someone retired or dead so the content doesn't change substantially over time. I'll try to get the hang of cricketing GAs for now. Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 16:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Photos

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For all your photos of the Victorian countryside. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much. The photography is something new I am trying to develop and improve but I really enjoy it albeit at the expense of some other things at present :-( Mattinbgn\^talk

Did you cruise around Victoria just for that? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Mainly, but also just for my own interest—to see places I haven't seen etc. The travel isn't as bad as it looks as many of the photos were taken while travelling in between Melbourne and my town; just on different routes.

You can see a full accounting at Commons:Category:Photographs by Mattinbgn, there is just over 3,000 images, mainly of small towns in Vic, NSW and Qld (mainly the Riverina and northern Victoria) with a focus on public architecture (post offices, churches, public halls etc.). I was hoping to get up to the Mallee and the Riverland areas over Christman but it may need to wait until around Easter break now. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 04:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I was tempted to do that to keep track of my photos, but it seems a hassle to do so unless, I have some script to help me. Do you know of one? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

No I don't. I did them either by hand or using the cat-a-lot tool set in my user preferences and visiting the categories where I knew my images were (i.e. town cats). It took a fair while to go back and do them all but it has been useful to have them all in the one place. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 04:42, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:AUS and the Australian cricket team

I see a correlation between the Australian cricket team and the slowing up of WP:AUS

• McGrath <-> Casliber (bird lovers)
• Adam Gilchrist <-> Giggy (dashers with the same initials AG)
• Shane Warne <-> Mattinbgn (Victorian and cricket)

• All have slowed down on the FAs dramatically in recent times and they stopped writing FAs in the same chronological order as the cricketers have retired. Warne-McGrath-Gilchrist and Mattinbgn-Casliber-Giggy as far as Aussie FAs. And, we've started struggling without them. Giggy also has a habit of walking from the crease as well. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• Possibly the only time I will be compared to Warne! I think there is much more chance of my return in 2009 than Warne's however. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 04:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• As long as Matt doesn't sell himself and start writing English FA's or coaching them how to write them! :) PS Is your holiday banner defunct? --VS ^talk 12:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

(unindent)Or being caught by the British tabloids in compromising situations! (on second thoughts ...) -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

{{NowCommons}}

I have detagged File:Qcc 1927.jpg where you added the nowcommons tag because I was unable to locate it on Commons, can you please have a look? Thanks! -- lucasbfr ^talk 10:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I say the CommonsHelper bot is playing up. I've moved some files only to have 2 of them not moved to Commons at all which meant I had to revert the NowCommons tag and keep trying but gave up and this is possibly whats happened to File:Qcc 1927.jpg also. Bidgee (talk) 10:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you are right. From time to time it has some issues. I haven't been able to get CommonsHelperHelper up and running for months now. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 10:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I just wished someone was willing to work on debugging it (bugs within the coding is the main issue IMO) as I don't really want to upload 12mb (each photo BTW! :|) photos. On other off topic matters (:P), all over Australia towns and some cities seem to have these type of street light poles. Bidgee (talk) 11:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Closer to my part of the world we have some double-sided poles very similar but yeah, they seem to be flavour of the month at present. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 11:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Jerilderie is another variation on the theme. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 11:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Wagga'a is more like Nathalia's and Barooga's poles. Bidgee (talk) 11:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Template:Current Australian COTF

It's funny that you suggest we stop simply reverting one another and instead discuss the issue in the appropriate place just after reverting me, without replying to my comments at the discussion. This discussion seems to be a classic case of a WikiProject having decided it is going to do things its own way- whenever anyone brings the issue up, the whole project can come jumping in to defend their methods. J Milburn (talk) 19:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Why is it

Those who don't live in Australia remove anything that feel such as [1] and force UTC dates and time[2] without pointing to a guideline[3]? It's just a shame to see it happening yet if we did it to them there would be an up roar over it, It just frustrates me. Bidgee (talk) 23:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Well made my comment on the talk page[4]. Will be interesting to see what reply I get, if any. BTW thanks for spotting that article. :) Bidgee (talk) 23:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

"Pizzled" in John the bookmaker controversy

I looked it up on Wiktionary and it only said things about penis. I presumed it means "pissed on" as in being blindsided and treated very disrespectfully and kept in the dark in this context? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Urban Dictionary comes to the rescue. "Pizzled" can be used a slang term for drunk, as an alternative to "pissed". Indeed, that is the form that I have heard the word used in the past. My guess is that Merriman extended the use of "pizzled" as an alternative to "pissed" as in drunk to "pissed" as in angry; an interesting example of semantic change! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 02:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. It's passed. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy to help. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 05:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Your trust is deeply appreciated

Hi Matt - I'm not sure if I can adequately express my appreciation of your trust, particularly of me, in this comment. Enigma made a small mistake but I am convinced he could make a great administrator - although unfortunately the last few votes needed just don't seem to be materialising during these final few hours of his RFA. Anyway you must be almost sick of me telling you again how much I appreciate your friendship and your loyalty at this site. My very best wishes Steve. --VS ^talk 13:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It has been a pleasure working with you. Indeed, when things have been less than enjoyable here, it has been the memory of the time spent collaborating with you and Matilda on Riverina and related articles that reminds me what Wikipedia is at its best. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 21:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I often think of those days too. BTW thanks again, this time for this. As you quite rightly assumed I was just working through a backlog at CSD. I have responded at the original editors page with a comment.--VS ^talk 22:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Invincibles cat

Pity about that. Anyway, the bios are now all at GA, although Tiger Khan (talk · contribs) tagged three of them for merges (the three ground staff), but I overwrote them (accidentally) with my hard-drive expansions. Oh well, I'm not going to reinstate them as I think it might cop a quick-fail with a big merge tag like that. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

CfD shits me to tears. It's the most clique-infested place on a very clique-infested website. The idea of independent thought and opinion is anathema there and it is never enough the CfD crew to merely refute a point, the editor with the deviant opinion has to be cut down to size as well, with maximum snarkiness. Best for my own wikimood if I just avoid it in the future and just let 'em run riot and continue to empire build. It's like standing in front of a bus anyway; you don't make any impact on the bus, you just end up flattened. As for the merge tags, given that the articles clearly meet WP:N, I don't see any problem with effectively removing them. TigerKhan didn't bother putting his case for a merge on the talk page, so there is no discussion about any proposed merge for them to point to anyway. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 02:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

FYI my views on the CfD process is can be found here. Nothing has happened since to make me change my mind about any of it. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 02:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Janszoon voyage of 1606

Thanks. I have always been reluctant to nominate it because it doesn't have a map. I think I will have to find a way of moving the map at project Guttenburg Australia (http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600631h.html p27) to Wikipedia but I don't know how to do it.--Grahame (talk) 01:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Chuck

Thanks for that. A pity if it just stayed the way it was after Phanto left it. I guess they'll ask for more refs I don't think the refs cover it all. but that should be pretty straightforward. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Is Growden a good writer? What is philosophy like. I noted that he wrote a book on Fingo, I wonder if he is interested in the Catholic-Protestant battles in the 1930s? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I haven't read the book cover to cover yet, merely picked through it where necessary. It arrived as an interlibrary loan last week and I hope to sit down with it over the weekend. I don't know about Growden's Catholic-Protestant thing but inter-communal tensions must have been rife in the 30s as claims and counter-claims appear everywhere in articles about the period. Perhaps it wasn't quite the Partition of India but certainly relations between the two groups (separated by ethnicity i.e. British/Irish, as much as religion) seem to have been characterised by a low undercurrent of hostility. Roisterer is working on Laurie Nash and it appears Nash felt as though his Catholic background told against him at the selection table. As always it is hard to know what the truth is behind such thoughts. Interestingly, Growden makes the point that what happened at the meeting with McCabe, Chuck, Tiger and O'Brien will remain a mystery until the ACB archives are opened. Well, they have been opened now (to Haigh & and Frith at least) and I'm not sure if the mystery has been cleared up at all! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 04:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

From reading Haigh and Frith, it seems that in the old days they hardly wrote anything down so as to not incriminate anything. Certainly that's what's Bradman's colleagues said was his MO; do it all by word of mouth so you can't be traced. Apparently Bradamn asked Grahame Thomas if he would mind not going to RSA to appease the apartheid regime. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ponny

Is that your next FA target? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't know yet. I picked up the book over the Christmas break, funnily enough after a less than enthusiastic review by Haigh in his book given to me as a gift. It is clear that Ponsford lived a quiet and uneventful life outside cricket and the book is quite dull, although the research has been extensive. Ponsford was almost pathologically shy and would literally hide from well wishers etc. until the day he died, even when acting basically as Ian Johnson's right hand man at the MCC. The book makes a few errors on cricket issues, such as claiming Albert Trott captained Australia and the author does not read like someone intimately familiar with the game. When talking about family, work etc. the book has the ring of authenticity. I would not consider it a reliable source for most things cricket but for the other things in his life, it is minutely detailed.

The book contains a major section of Ponsford's baseball career. Like Richardson, and Ian Chappell (and Lawry, I think) Ponsford was a keen baseballer. He played Claxton Shield and was picked in national teams to play visiting American colleges, warships etc. In the 50s, he was acclaimed as having been one of Australia's greatest ever baseballers. I must admit, I had no idea about that at all before reading the book. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 04:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Gideon Haigh gave you a book? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:36, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Not quite, my mother gave me a book that Haigh wrote. My standing order for a Christmas gift is a cricket book. :-) I am not on such good terms with him as you are! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 04:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The article's looking great. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh, I asked him to email me the text of Ramachandra Guha's review of Miller's Luck from The Monthly's archives - as he is a writer there, but instead he just had a hard copy sent to me...YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

re. Consensus

I aim to make at least one useful edit per year. I think I've now reached my quota.

In exchange for my reading your mind, I now encourage you to support flagged revisions. (Kidding of course!) Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, Giggy (talk) 05:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, you're skating on thin ice with that statement, mate! ;-) Giggy (talk) 10:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of OzRacingWrap page

Hi you recently sent me a message about the possible speedy deletion of the page OzRacingWrap. The deletion has occured it would seem. I believe the page is appropriate as to the best of my knowledge the podcast and site are the only independent podcast that covers Australian racing in the various series. All other podcasts of a like nature are from established media outlets and indeed I can not find one that covers the range of motor racing series that OzRacingWrap covers. On those grounds I believe it is notable and worthy of inclusion (though I should have added all that to the page).

I would therefore request you reconsider the deletion of the page.

Thanks Formulagpguys (shaun) Formulagpguys (talk) 13:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 80 support, 2 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the community has placed in me. R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow

Hey, I just wanted to say I am amazed. I've lately been going to a lot of Victorian towns and taking a few images while I'm there but when I get home to upload the photos, you've already got some here! :D I just wanted to comment on your fantastic work. Well done and keep it up. ;) Cheers, JamesA ^>talk 03:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

PS - Seeing as you know a bit about Victoria, I'll ask you a question. I was just up near St Arnaud, Victoria at a place called "Fenton's Creek". I took a few photos but am unsure if it is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Once a bigger town during the gold rush but shrunk down like the rest. Now has a few houses, CFA station, an unused school house and a church. I'll put the photos on commons for now. Cheers, JamesA ^>talk 03:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. 2 more questions :p So does it not matter if photos are close duplicates of other ones already supplied or should I only upload ones that are fairly different? And about town articles, does that mean that every town deserves an article or only those notable enough or with a suitable amount of info or pictures? I'll start on the Fentons Creek, Victoria article soon; thanks for the tips. Cheers, JamesA ^>talk 10:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey. Thanks very much. I hope to create articles about other towns in the region. I'm trying to find history about the area (unsuccessfully). I'm already trying to get history on my own suburb. Anyway, thanks. Keep in touch. ;) JamesA ^>talk 12:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

And happy Australia day for yesterday. JamesA ^>talk 12:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Australia Day

I hope you had a great Australia Day. I was going to stick around the city for the Talent Quest at the Civic Theatre but I wasn't really in the mood. I did get some photos such as Kay Hull and Sam Moran with his wife Lyn. Bidgee (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Yer I did and also told her I would email the photo to her. :) I hope you take this week easy with the heat wave of the year set to hit! 40°C for tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday and 41°C for Thursday and Friday. I'm not looking forward to working in the heat tomorrow. Bidgee (talk) 07:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism!

Crickey, you vandalized my talk page! ;)

Actually, I thought it was pretty funny. I didn't even know who Kay Hull or Sussan Ley were until I looked them up. I wish I were there for Australia Day; the weather looks absolutely perfect to me stuck in below freezing temps in the US Northwest (Moscow, Idaho). I'm so jealous! ;) --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

ABC on Wikipedia

Can you point out that there are less than 1700 admins on Wiki and that some people can edit protected pages? I think the ABC are censoring my NPOV points about their article....YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:51, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Your comment now seems to have made it past moderation. An interesting discussion, lots of myths and misconceptions floating about. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 07:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I Just Ask?

Why Did You Delete My Page?

Miller biography

Do you have a copy of cricket crossfire? Trying to think of where to get sources to diversify the Refs on Miller's articles. Obviously general criket books can be used in most of the matchplay bits but the war period needs a biog I think. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 06:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I do. In fact it is sitting right next to me at the moment! Ponsford's biographer mentioned that Ponsford was Miller's childhood idol and I plan to have a look through the book to see what it says about the topic. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 06:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Could you whack some stuff or cites into the early life and military article for some diversity please? Also could you have a look here Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/Military_career_of_Keith_Miller - I'm wondering if it might be an indicator of things to come, but I can't see how the pure RAAF info can dominate as Miller was never notable for being an important military figure, it was only is cricketing legend that prompted all the anecdotes about his crashes and altercations LOL YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 06:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I think maybe we should just leave the Perry ones in there so that it doesn't seem as though only Miller agrees with the statement. Although Miller just ripped off CC without even checking to see if it was BS, I'll get. So says Ramachandra Guha anyway. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

It might be convenient if you have both the parent and daughter article open simultaneously and cut and paste refs. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Ridiculous in Perth. It's the same pitch as on Friday I presume...credit to the fielders though...YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 05:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Warner experiment has gone on two matches longer than necessary and Marsh looks unconvincing. There is a whiff of panic in the upper order and the Black Caps can sense it. Dark times ahead but hopefully not so dark as this. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 06:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry too much, chaps. England are pretty weak as well right now and I can't see anyone making a breakthrough in the next few months (unless Mushy works a miracle on Monty), so your chances in the one that counts are extremely good. --Dweller (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

For urgent attention!

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Archie_Jackson --Dweller (talk) 05:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the trust you placed in me by supporting my RfA (which passed and, apparently, I am now an admin!). I will do my best to continue to act in a way that is consistent with the policies of wikipedia as well with our common desire to build and perfect this repository of human knowledge; and can only hope that you never feel that your trust was misplaced. Thanks again! --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 23:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Haddin

I forget to added the ref.SO instead of removing it you should have added the ref which is [5]. You may edit it to make it according to the wiki guidelines.I have no objection to that.Feel free to edit it.P.s don't forget to read the comments although they have nothing to do with the wikipedia but they can show what people think about this incident. comments are not meant for wiki.User talk:Yousaf465 User talk:Yousaf465

Nopv section has been added so don't revert it or you will be referred.User talk:Yousaf465

Well then it's ok.There is something strange happening at my home right now will check later.User talk:Yousaf465

Why was it being vandalized they are getting too furious I think.User talk:Yousaf465

WP:AUSCRICBIO

Just added a pile more... LOL YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that It's more than doubled in size. Have a look at the new section on Haddin I have added, hopefully not playing it down too much. My NZ relatives were full of (perhaps righteous) indignation yesterday. The controversy is clearly notable and needs mentioning but Wikipedia can't go about calling people cheats. On a blog, however ... :-) -- Mattinbgn\^talk 05:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I've been templated to spam my blog in the external links a lot.....So I can get some decent traffic...YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 05:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you think we should nag WP:CRIC for some 1948 reinforcements. I think Hassett is the most obvious one in terms of % incompleteness. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 06:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Seeing Miller at FAC will probably get the enthusiasm levels of some of the WP:CRIC fellows going again. The core articles are getting very close. You are correct, Hassett is the obvious next step. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 08:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Ponting

You were quick to add that he tied with Clarke for the Allan Border Medal! Aaroncrick^(talk) 12:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Gotta be quick around here! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 12:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Haha sure do :) Ponting looked a bit shocked, don't think he was expecting to win. Aaroncrick^(talk) 12:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Did they go through the numbers explicitly yesterday. I switched on in the middle of the ODI part and didn't see any numbers. Doesn't appear to be transparent. The media are very biased IMHO, I reckon Clarke would have won whether he deserved to or not, like in 2005. As for Johnson, statistically impressive but I can't say I would think too much of a guy who gets so many wickets from wide balls, if he won. Although if Clarke was dropped over and over and got really lucky, I think the media would just vote on stats. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Personally I would stop trying to be objective with vote counts and criteria and just appoint a committee to make the awards based on subjective criteria. Votes are subjective anyway, they just appear to be objective. The whole event suffers from severe Brownlow-envy. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Seems that Miller is only 79k long, one of the counters was a bit broken I think. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

confirmed! The readability tool counts non-templated citations, so we have some more wiggle room! YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Given Miller's enduring fame, a large article doesn't seem inappropriate. One issue that needs addressing is in the sub-articles. As the sub-articles drill down into the detail, the more specific the descriptions required and the more use for specific jargon. Jargon, while vilified here at Wikipedia, is not all bad and getting rid of it all at the risk of losing encyclopedic information is a poor trade. Articles on science are allowed different levels of accessibility to the layman; I see no reason why cricket should not be accorded the same privilege. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I really don't know how Ponting won. I don't really even think he deserved to win. Bracken was the right choice for the ODI player. I can't think of anyone that really deserved to win overall. We haven't had a great year. I agree that Johnson gets so many wickets with wide half volleys. It Must be a left arm thing. All left arm bowlers always seem to get wickets from bad balls, even in junior and grade cricket. Maybe because they are in the minority. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 04:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

That's the problem with a poor year. I'm not so sure that Ponting did not deserve to win. He did not have a great year by his own high standards but I can't think of anyone had a clearly better year than he did. One of the problems with the Australian team is that Ponting is now almost in the same position as Lara; head and shoulders better than any of his team mates. This is going to have a distorting effect on the team going forward. Some bowlers have the knack of getting wickets from bad balls, Ian Botham made a career around it and Stuart McGill did all right from bad balls too. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

True although at least Macgill's balls did stuff- big leg break, wrong'un etc whereas Johnson doesn't really do anything. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Even Hussey has had a miserable time! Hopefully Ponting can handle the pressure.. Lately in Test's and ODI, he's basically been opening the innings. I think a position should be found for Hodge. As much as i love Warner's entertainment I don't know if he's ready for ODI's yet. I don't know how Cameron White even made the squad. Yeah he can hit a big ball but he has had repeated failures with both bat and ball (his bowling is atrocious). Phil Hughes should defiantly go on the tour to South Africa. What do you think of Symonds being left out of that same tour? I'm not too sure about this one.. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 11:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hodge would at least add some experience and with some of the bigger names now out of the squad he may settle into the team a little better. He doesn't do much for his own cause bleating about selection though. The experiment with Warner went on far too long; there is a reason he has not played f-c cricket—he is not that good!. Symonds needed to be left off the SA tour; not because he is a naughty boy but because he is terribly and woefully out of form. Cameron White would be fine if the selectors got it through their skulls that is not a bowler of any skill whatsoever. Pick him as a specialist batsman, or not at all. Hughes must be picked. It is a little unfair on Jaques, but Hughes is making runs and Jaques is returning from injury. South Africa will be a struggle, but hopefully some of the new members of the line up will take the opportunity to stand up.

Heard Warner bowled a bit of leg spin and has a List A wicket, but I haven't seen him bowl so don't know if he's any good. Are you one of Ponting's supporters or another critic? Here in Launceston you don't here as much negative press as you would on the mainland about him. I'm not sure if he's as popular as Boony though, but I can't make a judgment because I wasn't around when Boon was playing. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 23:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I am an unabashed Ponting supporter. He is the best Australian batsman I have seen (and by a fair margin and my memory stretches back to Greg Chappell) and while not a superb captain, he is at least adequate. The worship of Steve Waugh and Mark Taylor's captaincy skills is entirely overblown. I think much of the criticism that Ponting receives is entirely unfair and he is more sinned against than sinning. There are a lot of double standards about when it comes to international cricket and Australia. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 23:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I find him a bit annoying, but he is the best batsman of the last 20 years, at least effective than SRT and BCL although it might start weighing him down being in a poor team; most of the Invincibles' averages started going down a lot in the 1950s although the bowling also improved. Probably the best two post-war Australian batsmen along with Chappell. Unfortunately, yes he's better than my buddy Harvey.....probably..but I hope I'm wrong.....well Harvey's a lot better against the Asian teams and spin IMHO. His captaincy is pretty silly sometimes, but most captains apart from Fleming have done pretty poorly with a ridiculous attack, and to be honest most Australians would ridicule the way Kumble/Ganguly/Inzy captained, but now that Australia have bowlers of similar standard to Agarkar, Nehra and Sami, they're in the same boat. Australia doesn't have the problem of having all these uncles in the field and terrible runners like the subcontinent teams, but at the same time the Australian captain/management at least make the players do some fitness/fielding/gym practice. But I think Dhoni aside, the Australian captains are better "leaders of men" although Ponting, S Waugh and Border were extremely dull and turgid tacticians and strategists. I bet if I tallied up all the partnerships scored against Australia, SRW and Ponting would have lower averages conceded because of their W/R ratio but I reckon they also have a higher percentage of 150+/200+ partnerships conceded because of going through the motions when things don't fall over for them. I can't remember too many Laxman/Dravid type partnerships during Taylor's time. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

As for Bradman everyone goes on and on about how great he was, but apart from being relentless and the greatest batsman, his tactics weren't any different from Ponting, just batting everyone out of the game, setting a target of 600 and getting Lindwall/Miller/Johnston/Toshack to smash everyone. In some games he declared and made the opposition chases 400 in less than a day which is similar to what Ponting did in the Sydney Test against India and sometimes the score was about 8/200 at the end when they were never going to try and score 280 in a day against them. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Having said all that I think cricketers are generally excessively worshipped in cricket countries, especially as most cricket countries are 3rd world/disorganised/corrupt policies/racist etc and don't practice/train properly. I don't see how beating India compares to beating the US etc at the Olympics in a swimming relay, when one person a bit out of form will ruin everything, everybody is put under curfew, alcohol ban, regimented routine to maximise performance, whereas with the Indians, they never even go to the gym and are horseplaying during training and most of them slog during training instead of replicating match scenarios (At least they were when I was watching)....as for Ponting saying that Shane Watson showed "unbelievable commitment" by not drinking, come on, what a joke....YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

That's exactly what I think but I've gathered I'm probably in the minority. I agree he isn't a great captain but he's not the worst going around. I thought it was a bit unfair to call for his sacking from the captaincy after the Sydney Test against India. The Australian public are so fickle. When everything is going well his the best player in the world, and when the Aussies are not going so well he get's a public bashing. I thought it was very strange that he has been rested when he has publicly said he wants to play. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 23:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Just one last question, lol =) Do you have any idea if Richard Hadlee and Michael Holding played a few matches for the Riverside Cricket Club (Tasmania)? I'm fairly sure at least one of them did. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 01:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

(unindent) They both played for Tasmania and no doubt they had a grade club but I do not know what club it was. Perhaps you should raise your question at WT:CRIC or even at Cricinfo and you might get an answer. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 01:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go down to the club soon and hopefully I can get some answers (By the way I play for the club so I should get some answers). Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 02:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hughes is good. Should have had Hodge in there although he keeps moaning all the time. Good move to take Hauritz, because it means Casson will get a game for NSW. At least Casson tries to take wickets....If Kallis/Dravid had been in good form I don't think Australia would have had any opportunities recently with the current robot attack and probably would never have bowled them out for less than 400. Too much robot-coaching down at the ACA. You should have seen Mallett fire up at the cricket forum. India could do with some more dynamic, if somewhat erratic bowlers in there. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hauritz doesn't get wickets, the batsmen get themselves out. Even though he's expensive at least Krazy Fish will bowl a wicket taking ball every now and then. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 03:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Shelley Nitschke

Hey,

I've given Nitschke the requested infobox. I hope the choice of columns is appropriate. It is slightly unconventional, but should be ok. I've used WNCL in place of the usual List A column.

Best wishes, —MDCollins (talk) 01:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. The WNCL is by far the best option for the List A column. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

The 404

I am currently one of the chief editors on the404. This page is an article dedicated to the 404 podcast on cnet.com. It can be found at the404.cnet.com. The problem is, that in the past, fans who did not know what they were doing, tried to create a fan wikipedia page at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the 404. Notice the space. The current page at wiki/the404, is reliable with many verified sources and images is not established for speedy deletion. All I want is to move /wiki/the404 to wiki/the 404, so that it is easier to find when people search for it either on wikipedia, or on another search engine. Thank You You can also reach me at xxxxxx Frebel93 (talk) 20:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I still do not see any real signs of notability. The overwhelming majority of the cited references are from the official site itself and not from independent, reliable sources. I think the article in its current state will be deleted and fairly quickly. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 21:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Commons: Lancefield, Victoria and Romsey, Victoria

With regards to improving and adding descriptions for Commons photos of Lancefield and Romsey, count me in. I will contribute where possible, and likewise plan to get some pics together for other localities in the immediate area (Macedon Ranges Shire). The photo of Kerrie, Victoria is appreciated. Scottius11 (talk) 22:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

292*

Looks pretty dubious. Trumper's innings was not in a Shield match, but if you start including all inter-state matches, there is an even higher innings of 383 by Charles Gregory. So there is no way 292* can be a record. Tintin 00:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

WP:ACOTF

Nominated the drive. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Keith Miller sent there more more PR type traffic. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

You are a busy man at present. FAC, GAC, ACOTF, MHA! Keeping an eye out where I can. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

taking it perosnaly

I think you are taking it personally.The logo of channel was present there.Well from what i have seen it seems it was intentional by Brad(My opinion).User talk:Yousaf465

Old Pictures from an old account

I used to have an account that suffice to say, was used for inappropriate things. I would make stupid pictures making fun of a peer and post them on my friends user talk pages. My old username: thomsonboy93. The files were called Image:Kacani.jpg, and Image:Katranny 2.JPG. I am trying to get these images back, but they were lost when my computer corrupted. Can you do me a favor and send them to me at frebel93@gmail.com. I am now a legitimate user and have created the404 wiki under my current username frebel93. Thank You for your consideration Frebel93 (talk) 18:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Warney cat

Should last. Added John the bookie. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

You must have beat me by about two seconds! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 07:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Off for some Kiwi spotting. I presumed you are safe and well. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Matthew Hayden

Do you watch cricket? Hayden is the 2nd most successful Opening batsman in the history of Test Cricket and that is a big part of his life and career. This should be noted on this wikipedia page no matter what you think. --Aussieicon91 (talk) 08:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Apology

I've posted a general apology in my withdrawal statement at the Oversight election page, but I felt that as a contributor you deserve an individual apology too.

It was not my intention to let the election begin without a statement, but an IT gremlin "ate" my first attempt at posting there some hours before the election was to begin and then unforseeable RL issues prevented me from getting back to it until too late. Thank you for your consideration and sincere regrets for wasting your time. --Dweller (talk) 10:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Can you take a look at Undermountain

Well I've got no interest in the article (Infact I think it should be deleted) but the Vandal move editor User:Undermountain edited the article so I reverted. Now 3 different IP's have undid my revert without any reason in the edit summary or talk page[6]. The IP's have never edited the article before so A) it's the vandal IP who is some how editing under IP's from different countries (It's possible to do) or B) has mates helping out (From a forum or IRC). I hope you keep cool during this stupidly hot heat wave. Bidgee (talk) 03:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Now at AfD. No evidence of real world notability. The air conditioner here works up to about 40, but above that it isn't much good. In the car this morning the outside temp was recording at 44 at 11.30! All sport (golf, bowls, cricket, tennis) here has been cancelled. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 03:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't surprise me! Was in the 40s at about 11am where I am. 43 ATM. Well looks like Avalon just broke it's and Victoria's record with 47.3 recorded so far and we still have until about 6/7pm for the heating to level out so it could get higher :S. Bidgee (talk) 03:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Vic Bushfires

I hate to think what Marysville now looks. Creditable reports on ABC Radio that only one building is standing in the small down. What a sad day! :( A "Black Saturday" in Australia's history. Bidgee (talk) 15:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

That's horrible. Marysville was such a nice town too. I'd like to go up there after the road blocks have finished and have a look around. Hopefully they will rebuild the town instead of abandoning it. Chicken-7 ^talk 01:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It was a beautiful town, in the winter as a base for Lake Mountain, in the summer for a respite from the heat and in the autumn especially for the leaves. All the exotic European trees will be gone, unlike the natives they will not regenerate, and they won't be replanted. A great shame. I was only in Kinglake over the Christmas break and I thought at the time it looked like a disaster waiting to happen. Dry, heavily timbered, houses scattered in the bush with little clearing. Very sad day. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 01:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

It's probably a good thing that they don't replant non-native vegetation, the more regional natives the better. Those of us who do recall all those European trees in Marysville will have something unique to remember. Nick carson (talk) 02:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Nick but I disagree. Non-natives have there place in towns like Kinglake and Marysville. Natives have more of a fire risk then those non-natives in the area. I have a mixture of natives and non-natives if you like to know. :) I must say it's quite sad to hear the death toll this morning but now it's just something that words can't describe. I trying to do the temp charts for the articles ATM and watching (Well Impossible now with the smoke from Beechworth) a fire to my SE (burning near Tarcutta, New South Wales ATM). Bidgee (talk) 07:44, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe what the death toll has risen to tonight. Even thought I live in an urban area, the fire risks in the surrounding area were apparently really high. Yesterday my suburb (or even the whole city was shrowded in smoke). I agree that natives have a place in those towns. Really hope that the fires don't get worse but I guess that is unlikely. Chicken-7 ^talk 11:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

ITN for 2009 Victorian bushfires

On 7 February, 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article 2009 Victorian bushfires, which you recently nominated and substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 00:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Where you getting the info from on the casualties from the mudgegonga front? Age aint showing anything, I have relatives in that general area and a father in the cfa incident control room for that fire (thankfully not on the incident control truck anymore) Viridae^Talk 09:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou. Viridae^Talk 09:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thus far, so far so good - and should remain that way unless the wind switches to the opposite direction - on the northerly side of beechworth. Dad is fine, just tired last i heard. Viridae^Talk 09:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks! I've never received any awards before and I'm not particularly keen on it but I am grateful that my contributions are being appreciated by at least one person. :] Thanks for your contributions too. My strengths are writing, copyediting, synthesising and compiling information, so it's always nice to have someone's strengths compliment my weaknesses, like html, citation convention, etc. Nick carson (talk) 02:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For your indefatigable work on 2009 Victorian bushfires. Well done! Nick carson (talk) 11:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

It would be remiss of me not to return the favour for your contributions to the Victorian bushfires article, which have at the very least been equal to my own, yet far more studious and disciplined. Nick carson (talk) 11:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Brian Naylor (broadcaster)

Thanks for reverting User:Rebecca's edit. The IP had reverted the 4th time (I've filed a 3RR) IP readded it under a new IP (59.167.38.253) [7] (I posted this on Longhair's talk page but most be offline ATM). Bidgee (talk) 12:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Just a heads up on your recent revert. The anonymous editor did provide an external link which supports the assertion of Naylor being found "huddling in his wifes arms", though I myself err on the side of caution with including such a statement this early on. It's the only source I can find saying such a thing at this time. -- Longhair\^talk 10:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

• I saw this too - my problem with the addition by the anon is that the reference is not secondary enough for this situation. Furthermore I watched as Tony Jones and Peter Hitchener first broke the news that Moiree Naylor had been found as a victim of the fires and the reports stated that they and many others were concerned as a result for Brian's welfare because the two were inseparable. At that time Brian was listed as missing and the worst was presumed - on that basis even though it is possible, a report of this nature that the two Naylor's were found so entwined together seems to fly in the face of the first reports. I agree with your and Longhair's caution before adding this material.--VS ^talk 10:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Marysville, Victoria

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Marysville, Victoria. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Please read my message on the article's talk page for more information. --Ericdn (talk) 20:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I have commented at Ericdn's page with regards this warning.--VS ^talk 20:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Does an experienced editor really have to be templated? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 04:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Interesting! Some connection problems and return to read this. Thanks VS and Aaron for dealing with the incident. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 05:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Fires

Hopefully the fires haven't effected you directly and your safe and well.. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 04:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No, just run of the mill Telstra ADSL connection problems here! I know some friends of friends who have been involved but all are safe and well. Many are not of course. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 05:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

PD-Australia stumps Braddles

Another debate about Pd-Australia and whether it is 1955 or not....help YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Harvey family

Do you know if Robert Harvey and Brent Harvey the footballers are cousins? It was added to RH's page, but deleted recently by an IP without speculation. I am wondering if there are more things to be added to Harvey family. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 05:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I am not aware of any such family relationship. I am no AFL expert by any means but I feel sure this was true that itwould have been remarked on enough that even I would know about it. See here for an interesting discussion about the claim, the article and Wikipedia! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 05:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Careful

Don't revert changes wholesale. I'll concede that Marysville will probably be rebuilt, and that it is still legally a town. But look more carefully at what I removed. DS (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

I also grant that most of my changes were too hasty, yes - but I also changed "It contains numerous cafes, art galleries, restaurants, and craft shops" to "Prior to the 2009 fires, it contained numerous (etc)". You reverted the entire diff. I can understand your reasoning, though, so when I edited the article again, I was much more careful about my modifications.

Incidentally - Sam (koala). DS (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for The 404

An editor has asked for a deletion review of The 404. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sljaxon (talk) (contributions) - Fighting Vandalism Since 2006 01:34, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

PD-Australia

Looks like the photos in IWGJ's FA are stuffed too then? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 01:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep, they are all dead ducks. I had a look at the discussion and can't fault the arguements raised by those seeking deletion. I have no intention of nominating them for deletion but they are pretty indefensible. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 10:51, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

The 404

The 404 is currently protected, while The 404 (Podcast) is alive. However, as there is no conflicting page, that page should be moved to The 404. 24.252.249.64 (talk) 16:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

• wrong signature, not signed in. Sljaxon (talk) (contributions) - Fighting Vandalism Since 2006 17:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Doctors

Yes a very good point - and sufficiently put for a withdraw my support for the compromise on the way you argue that - indeed a very raw and messy place in the wp cesspool of xfd - even if some try to keep it clean and orderly SatuSuro 07:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Perry and Chuck

Pity about Chuck, although if you have hte book it should be easy to fix. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Seems pretty big for 899 people. Do they get good books there? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

can you help monitor the SL cricket attack page. Yousaf is adding conspiracy theories about Indian spies again, per his usual MO on Pakistani terrorism topics. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:45, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, you have a good library then. The only books I have are SRW's 1996 WC diary, Cashman's AZ (which is good), and Pollard's "Cricket the Australian Way", the rest are borrowed. ARW and AZ were 20c from the library clearance sale. For whatever reason they usually turf anything over ten years old. How much did it cost you to put all that together? You didn't buy them all new did you? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Just passing WP, saw the light on, thought I'd drop in. Here's a classic e.g. as to why I retired [[8]]; from my first edit, it seemed to me that a narrowly specialist editor who really knows his subject matter isn't a valued commodity in this environment, and stuff like this confirmed that opinion. How can you disagree with (a self-appointed) someone whose syntax is as compelling as wizardman's "The rewriting of the prose will likely take some time to make it good".....lol. All the best with your Aus skippers project, I think I said to you b4 that the essence of Australian cricket history can be explained through the prism of the captaincy; these men have given Australian cricket its' unique identity. Look forward to your future FAs in this area, if you need some help then email me. Cheers

Phanto282 (talk) 13:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

You should have stuck around Phanto...These things are easily dealt with. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Derriman on K Johnson

Only tow pages agout the libel, nothing much that isn't already in Haigh's rendition of the libel case. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you have the page from Rick smith's book that is used as a ref? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 05:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Ponny

Should've gone straight for FA! YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

The prose and jargon need a bit of work and a GA review will (hopefully) give me some feedback on that. It went to PR and did not make much of a splash there. I like the new blog BTW ... Mattinbgn\^talk 01:12, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Heh, maybe the less homely feel is scaring off commenters...or is that my ugly mug...well I look more like Viru nowadays - the head, that is! YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 01:15, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

drv?

This discussion had no kind of consensus at all - there was a consensus to oppose the original proposal, and there was significant opposition to the idea of "medical doctors" (which was mostly in the tailing discussion rather than put to people). Worth going to DRV? (will have to wait to tomorrow as I have shaped DSL atm and things are painfully slow) Orderinchaos 02:43, 31 March 2009 (UTC)