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Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) (January 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HickoryOughtShirt?4 was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

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HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mastadblg! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician). Thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 2022

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) (April 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

notable, but the article is too flowery and promotional. Focus on what he published , showing its importance by the number of citations to it. He is notable as a a mathematician for his research, ni his connections.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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DGG ( talk ) 05:38, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) (June 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HenryTemplo was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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HenryTemplo (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter L. Antonelli (Mathematician) (July 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Missvain were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for academics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Hi.

I’m sorry, but the sourcing here isn’t helping the subject meet our General Notability Guidelines nor WP:NPROF. The sourcing you presented here comprises primary sources. Content he has written or publications/organizations he is affiliated with cannot be used to establish notability for a Wikipedia article.

We need *significant* in-depth coverage in notable media outlets or by notable publishers about Peter Louis Antonelli. Examples: magazine and newspaper reviews and features about Peter Louis Antonelli specifically; books or peer-reviewed white papers written ABOUT Peter Louis Antonelli; television and radio features ABOUT Peter Louis Antonelli.

If those are available, please improve this submission. If not, then it might not be the right time (WP:TOOSOON for Peter Louis Antonelli to have a Wikipedia article.

I hope you will consider improving existing Wikipedia content about other subjects of interest!

If you have any questions please ask them at WP:TEAHOUSE.

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia!

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Missvain (talk) 15:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Missvain,

Thank you for your comments. I will gather secondary sources to further prove the subject's notability, as you can see from the former reviewer comments, however, earlier reviewers were convinced of his notability (see comment from DGG, April 4th, 2022). Nevertheless I will further improve the article and resubmit in the coming days. All the best, Michael Mastadblg (talk) 08:42, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peter L. Antonelli

Hello Mastadblg -- I happened across this draft and, though not in my area of expertise, thought the subject was likely to meet WP:PROF; David Eppstein agreed and has edited and promoted the draft. I fear you've been given some unhelpful advice: adding references to the subject's papers is not usually useful; what is necessary is material written about the subject's work. For academics, this is usually takes the form of review articles, reviews of their authored books, festschrifts, award citations and obituaries, although news coverage in specialist press or even newspapers can sometimes be found. Once you've established notability, it is acceptable to source basic biographical material (education, career profile) from their university profile or CV. All you can write based on the subject's own papers is that they have researched/published in a particular field.

If you have any other ideas for biographies of mathematicians or scientists, first, check whether they meet either WP:PROF, usually by having a strong citation profile, or WP:AUTHOR, usually with multiple books with reviews, and then I'd suggest creating the article in your own userspace (you have a link to a personal sandbox next to your talk page) and moving it to mainspace yourself when you feel you've sourced it adequately. You can show high citations by listing the subject's highest-cited research papers and giving the Google Scholar or Scopus citation count. I hope this is helpful, feel free to ask me on my talk page for general advice. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 19:21, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your help, I have now added some secondary sources which will help with the notoriety aspect and also to demonstrate the impact of some of his more popular work. The next step will be to get a picture on there, which I had in an early version but was forced to delete for reasons I did not quite understand. Thanks again! Mastadblg (talk) 09:06, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]