User talk:MaserShark

Please don't put random shit here.

Since you blanked the content I put here I guess you are speaking to me. However that sounds rather not assuming Wikipedia:Good Faith. A Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Standard user greeting is actually a positive approach endorsed in wikipedia especially to newcomers to help give them the value system of how wikipedia works. It was not random and it was not meant to be seen as shit. Please avoid hostility. That was not meant by me and should not be a basis of action towards others. And talk pages are exactly where a variety of systems and people in wikipedia are supposed to communicate with you. --Smkolins (talk) 00:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Automated greetings are obnoxious (and parts of automated greetings that are basically "maybe you'd find this useful" are random shots at actually being relevant) and I would prefer for them to not clutter my talk page. I did not think that you meant any ill by it, but that's completely irrelevant to it being annoying and pointless. Accordingly I made that comment to try to discourage people from doing so in the future. Naturally I neither can nor would desire to prevent people from sending me communications with actual content but that obviously does not fall under "random shit".

Well for what it is worth it is not so automatic. It was an action I specifically took and it used a system in wikipedia specifically and collectively designed to provide links to widely considered important information for new users to wikipedia. I get it seemed like anonymous mail but it wasn't. Additionally various maintenance bots run inside wikpedia and will post items to your talk page and they wont even read your post. Basically your comment is unfriendly and is easily the rudest thing I've seen start out on anyone's talk page I've ever seen. It has the air of starting off on the wrong foot. But it isn't my place to be a pest or anything so I'll not comment about this any further. --Smkolins (talk) 00:16, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

It's a packaged response applied systematically. That actual people are involved in it's application makes it no less automated. Furthermore you keep saying things like "endorsed by wikipedia" and "collectively designed" like they matter, but they don't. Obnoxious things are obnoxious regardless of whether they are the individual actions of editors or the collective actions of wikipedia and wikipedia's welcoming system is obnoxious. The only way to fix things like this is to object to them, nothing changes if everyone annoyed by something just ignores it.

If you continue to edit generally in wikipedia you may find a broader response more educational. I've posted such things on many pages and unquestionably your reaction is by far the most objecting. Some actually take the advise of learning these things. Regardless these are the kind of things you'll need to learn to contribute responsibly but you don't have to learn it here. This is your talk page, so be it. Bye. --Smkolins (talk) 01:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)