User talk:Marc R M Gauvin

Hello, Marc R M Gauvin, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Hi Carol,

Apologies if I am unwittingly doing something I shouldn't. I don't think my entry to the EC Riegel page represents a conflict of interest because it simply asserts s statement of fact and provides all means to verify that fact. I think that the information is valuable and relevant. Let me know what you think I should do.

Regards,

Marc--Marc R M Gauvin (talk) 18:28, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:reliable sources which is the bigger issue. If you can find some other book or newspaper article or reliable newsletter that makes that connection, fine. But quoting yourself as the expert is a WP:conflict of interest. The only exception might be circumstances like your comment was published in a notable academic article or mainstream media publication, which is not the case. Just read through the policies. Note that some of the references currently in there aren't perfect, and need to be improved. However there is not a conflict of interest issue and some editors would find them acceptable, at least on a temporary basis. I note on article talk page there are a lot more new refs that can be added and I'll do so soon. CarolMooreDC 19:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Carol,

I don't see your point. There is no conflict of interest because I am not misrepresenting anything for my own benefit. What would be a conflict of interest, is if I were to comment on a competitor or another writer where I have a particular interest in representing a particular view to the detriment of another and therefore not supporting the interest of wikipedia. But in the case at hand, I am simply pointing out a common conclusion which cannot be disputed on with regards to BIBO Currency precisely because I am the author and is not disputable on the part of Riegel because it quotes the existing text that I know to be accurate as I have read Riegel's work.

I don't think that simply quoting one's self can constitute a conflict of interest more is required to establish that. As for the credibility of the source the references should be sufficient as they exist and have been made available to the public for some time.

Best regards,

Marc --Marc R M Gauvin (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't sound like you read the policies. Do you need some other editors to confirm it for you? CarolMooreDC 22:15, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Carol,

Yours is not a valid argument, I have read the policies but obviously do not interpret them as you do. You should not assume you are by default correct in the face of a complete proposition explaining my position. If you are unable to correct my reasoning then you cannot assume that your interpretation is correct. There is no unfair or misleading representations taking place, there is no possible victim be it Wikipedia, Riegel or myself. If there is no victim and what I write cannot in anyway be considered as a misrepresentation, then what concretely are the grounds for your objection. I think that you are simply reacting to the fact that I quote myself but as I said that alone does not constitute a conflict of interest, because if that were the case then there would be a rule to that affect and there is no such rule and if there were it would be very difficult to sustain.

Regards,

Marc

You're being discussed at WP:EAR

Please see Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#New editor needs WP:COI and WP:RS explanations. You may respond there if you wish. If someone tries to add mention of their own work to articles (as you did here) it is generally frowned upon. Unless you can find a consensus of editors to support your changes, sanctions are possible. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:54, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn't occur to me to tell Marc. Which just shows after 5 years there is so much to learn. Editing here definitely can be a long term commitment. CarolMooreDC 18:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]