User talk:Mahda133

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March 2016

The citations are in the talk page[1] is not adequate.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What can I add to improve them? Mahda133 (talk) 12:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, you need a change of attitude. Simply stating that you you are right, etc. cuts no ice when other people disagree with your edits.

Secondly, have a look at articles like War in Donbass and Donetsk People's Republic. You can see that these use Russian and Ukrainian language sources, and people accept this - though these articles are controversial, and people have had to argue their case on the talk pages and respect the views of people they do not agree with. If we take this citation as an example:

"Теміргалієв оголосив про швидке створення "Української Федерації"" [Temirgaliyev announced the imminent creation of the "Ukrainian Federation"]. Ukrayinska Pravda. 12 April 2014.

Теміргалієв оголосив про швидке створення "Української Федерації = article name in original language. This is essential. If the URL changes, we can still find the article if we know the name in the original language.
[Temirgaliyev announced the imminent creation of the "Ukrainian Federation] = translation of article name in English.
Ukrayinska Pravda = publisher. Notice that this has been transliterated into English writing, for the benefit of people who cannot read Russian or Ukrainian letters.
12 April 2014 = date of publication.

Your citation templates gave all this stuff only in Arabic, which is great if this were Arabic Wikipedia, but here on English Wikipedia we need some of this stuff in English as well as Arabic.

Have you ever read WP:NONENG? This says that "if a dispute arises involving a citation to a non-English source, editors may request that a quotation of relevant portions of the original source be provided, either in text, in a footnote, or on the article talk page."

If you think that any of these sources you want to use are worth using, why not take your time, and propose one at a time? I suggest that you start a heading on the talk page for the source, and say what the source says - giving some quotations in Arabic and English. Tell us some stuff about the source. When was it written? Who published it? Is it available in English? What kind of book is it?

Have you ever read a book called Ali and Mu'awiya in Early Arabic Tradition: Studies on the Genesis and Growth of Islamic Historical Writing Until the End of the Ninth Century by Erling L Petersen? If you have not, then I suggest that buy a copy and read it urgently.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:00, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jeppiz (talk) 12:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jeppiz,Thanks for the warning. There is no war, there is just the contribution for improving the article. But before my reverting, I asked about the disagreement from Edward321 in his talk page and Toddy1 in the main talk page and until 3 days they didn't have answer to me! Then I assumed they were convinced. Mahda133 (talk) 13:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody was convinced; it was as if we asked you directions to Mecca, and you answered "three weeks next Tuesday". The "answer" showed no understanding of what we were asking for.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]