User talk:MaduraiSelvam

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July 2018

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Source misrepresenation/extrapolation

MaduraiSelvam, I reviewed some of your recent edits and found many of them misrepresenting the sources you cite, or to be generous, greatly extrapolate from them. For instance, on the Kuravar page, you added the following content (which you have also added to a number of other articles):

Vedic beliefs written in Sanskrit and its associated languages, who migrated into Indian subcontinent has referred the Tamil communities - native of Indian subcontinent - as castes and categorized them into the pyramid of caste system according to their own beliefs. The native Indian societies including Tamils were subjected by the Social stratification and later was used by the British administration as well.

citing this article published in Science magazine. However, the Science article is focused on the debate over the geographic origins of the Indo-European languages in Anatolia vs steppes. It, says nothing about caste system in general, or how it was imposed upon the Tamils by the immigrants' Vedic beliefs or by the British. Can you explain what is going on? Abecedare (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please read all the back references and understand how the western and north Indian historian has used mythological stories to describe Indian history. This publication and few more in the recent past has opened eye about the mythology and origin of Sanskrit in Middle eastern along with other Indo-European languages. Especially since Sanskrit language did not have a script till 14th century, rest of the history is obvious. It is not extrapolated please read the following papers and understand the truth.

For Sanskrit origin https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0094-2/ Perdih, Anton. "Continuity of European Languages from the Point of View of DNA Genealogy." Int'l J. Soc. Sci. Stud. 6 (2018): 18. Piazza, Alberto, et al. "Genetics and the origin of European languages." Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 92.13 (1995): 5836-5840. https://www.nature.com/news/a-turkish-origin-for-indo-european-languages-1.11270 https://www.hindustantimes.com/world/sanskrit-to-swedish-they-all-came-from-turkey/story-Il8NsYXOCGtnY9reazj1rM.html https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Mother-of-Sanskrit-and-related-languages-was-spoken-by-Turkish-farmers-says-new-study/articleshow/15633438.cms

For Tamil language in Indian subcontinent

Sitehttps://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/keezhadi-excavation-the-story-till-now/article18464920.ece, Historic, and Tamil Nadu. "Horizontal Excavation: Excavation of Towns and Fortifications." http://www.indiamystery.com/carbon-dating-confirms-keezhadi-site-sangam-era/ Sanyal, Sanjeev. The Ocean of Churn: How the Indian Ocean Shaped Human History. Penguin UK, 2016. Manigandan, T., et al. "Tamil character recognition from ancient epigraphical inscription using OCR and NLP." 2017 International Conference on Energy, Communication, Data Analytics and Soft Computing (ICECDS). IEEE, 2017. Ravisankar, R., et al. "Determination of firing temperature of some ancient potteries of Tamil Nadu, India by FT-IR Spectroscopic technique." Indian Journal of Science and Technology 3.9 (2010): 1016-1019. Achyuthan, Hema, et al. "Radiocarbon ages of pedogenic carbonate nodules from Coimbatore region, Tamil Nadu." Journal of the Geological Society of India 75.6 (2010): 791-798.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MaduraiSelvam (talk • contribs)

MaduraiSelvam, if you wish to edit and discuss matters productively, please make a concrete, discrete statement and then cite a source that supports it specifically. Just throwing together a bunch of sources that are largely orthogonal to the content you added to mainspace, is not useful. Abecedare (talk) 04:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

talk As you had claimed that my input were extrapolated you need to have some experience in the research review to make such comments or knowledge to evaluate a situation. Please do not mix your mythological belief to historical facts. DO NOT MIX THE STORIES YOU HEAR FROM MYTHOLOGY TO HISTORICAL FACTS.

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Posts go on talk pages, not user pages. I have moved your post here --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:43, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Kautilya3 (talk) 14:16, 6 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are being victimised largely because English is not your mother tongue thus making this whole environment appear so much more hostile than it need have been. Rather than deride, denigrate and disparage, these more experienced editors should be offering advice, guiding you and suggesting sources of assistance, like translators for example. It's as if they want you to fail, they want you to get frustrated and react, so then they can post warnings, threats and impose sanctions... because those are really the only power they have. If you believe you are right and have something to contribute, then persevere 82.30.110.20 (talk) 04:40, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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--regentspark (comment) 15:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism is a politicized definition of number of religious beliefs that was coined by British empire when ruling various kingdoms in the indian subcontinent. Temple belonging to a religion at the time of its construction should be referred to that religious; it cannot be twisted as written as something that is politically motivated. MaduraiSelvam (talk) 01:04, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism/Shaivism/etc.

Hi. Is there any particular reason you're replacing Hinduism with Shaivism or Vishuism? You will need to find reliable sources these as the correct names for the Hindu religion, and should definitely discuss changes of this level on article talk pages first. For that reason, and without passing judgement on your edits, I'm reverting your recent changes. Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 15:19, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir, yes Shaivism and Vaishnavism are religious beliefs and had been in practice for thousands of years and the word Hinduism coined by British for political administration from 18 or 19th century. By referring to a word that is just 100 years old, diminishes the ancient history of religious practices of Indians. Hope you understand that mixing chronological antiquity of religious belief is not correct. maduraiselvam

I am afraid that is not good enough a reason. Picking up this edit for an example, I would point out the following problems:

There is no edit summary.
There is no appeal to reliable sources, either existing sources or new ones.
Wikipedia is written for contemporary readers using contemporary language. So, even if it was originally Shaivite temple, it may still need to be called a "Hindu temple" in present day language. This is especially the case in the MOS:LEAD which is a high-level summary meant for non-specialist readers. So, technical accuracy is not warranted here, but rather understandability.

You definitely need to correct these problems as you go forward. Otherwise, such edits would be considered WP:POV and tendentious. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

March 2020

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Hello can you please explain what happened? I this is a racial abuse of someone against me? MaduraiSelvam (talk) 02:40, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Gotitbro (talk) 10:17, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April 2020

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Heo Hwang-ok, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. utcursch | talk 21:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please find the reference https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chennai/Korean-envoy-proud-of-his-Tamil-links/articleshow/53277831.cms MaduraiSelvam (talk) 21:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

September 2023

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:RegentsPark. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Doug Weller talk 07:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please go through content moderation on various contributor from other communities. There seems to be a strong beliefs and political opinions of his own interfering other people of different Indian languages, religions and cultures. This is seen as a caste system in India but didn’t expect it in America. MaduraiSelvam (talk) 08:43, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No more personal attacks or I'll blocked. If you think someone is vandalising, go to WP:ANI. Doug Weller talk 10:10, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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