User talk:MadeinJapan

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Welcome to Wikipedia, MadeinJapan! Thank you for your contributions. I am GabeMc and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Led Zeppelin

Hey, MiJ. I took a look at the thread you asked me to look at, and while it certainly does appear that many of your changes were indeed improvements, SabreBD also makes a good point about making multiple significant changes too quickly (especially for a newer editor such as yourself). Images should "face" the text, so if a person is looking to their right, then the image should be right justified. Also, avoid adding images that sandwich text. Having said that, I can see why the reversion has frustrated you, as you obviously worked really hard on the article. I suggest that you gradually introduce your desired changes, so that contentious edits can be reverted as they occur, versus a wholesale reversion of two-weeks work, which in general, I don't agree with; however, I also have no desire to get in between you and SabreBD in this content dispute, as I've had more then enough of this type of Wikipedia argumentation.

FWIW, I know SabreBD to be a level-headed, good-intentioned, and skilled editor, so I advise you to do your best to work with him, not against him. You both want the article to be improved, so it shouldn't be too difficult to find some common ground.

Start with specifics, like Gulla; is it 2001 or 2009? If you can demonstrate specific sourcing issues, then perhaps your comments will hold more weight. Hope this has been helpful, cheers! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:42, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Big thanks for replying.

"Also, avoid adding images that sandwich text." -- there's much less sandwiching of text in my revision than in the current one, if I'm not mistaken.

"Start with specifics, like Gulla; is it 2001 or 2009?" I have the original source, and it was clearly published in 2009.

I've now revised my version and concluded that it improves on the current revision in any aspect. What are your thoughts? Are there any specific problems with my version? In a nutshell, these are the changes that I made:

Improved sourcing -- corrected the page numbers. Substituted many online sources with books (WP:RS).
Added detail.
Rewrote the lead. It needed to be done from scratch.
Removed redundant references.
Made some corrections per comments from the failed FAC.

Again, thanks for replying. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 23:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said above, I have no interest in getting in the middle of this content dispute. Bring these points up with SabreBD at the Zep talk page, and remember that working on Wikipedia means compromising. Cheers! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:07, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MadeinJapan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Sabrebd (talk · contribs) is a disruptive editor who does not care about contributing to Wikipedia at all. Twice, he undid my two weeks worth of work, citing image size problems (which is something that you can fix in a few minutes) as the reason. Now, he's going to gradually add stuff from my revision back to the article so he can get credit for improving it. And I got blocked for actually contributing to the article ([1], [2]). Big thanks for that one. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 18:22, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You're supposed to use an unblock request to address the reason you were blocked, not to criticize others - and the reason you were blocked is not "for actually contributing to the article". -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Who let me discuss things? When I first implemented my changes, they were quickly reverted by Sabrebd without giving any specific reason. I asked him one too many times to give me a proper reason to why he reverted my work but he never actually did so. Why shouldn't HE be blocked? MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 19:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For past several months, the only thing Sabrebd has been doing is adjusting image sizes, which is relatively minor to some other glaring flaws that his revision of the article has. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 19:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To someone who's watching this page: have a look this revision of the article and tell me how Sabrebd's revision is superior to mine, or how his version improves upon mine. I've never heard any kind of argumentation from Sabrebd. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 19:08, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MadeinJapan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

It would be good if someone actually replied and explained to me what's wrong with my edits.

Decline reason:

Your edits are not the issue. Your sockpuppetry is. If you want to be unblocked, apply at your primary account.--Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 11:01, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It would be even better if you addressed the actual reason for your block. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if I am a sock puppet it doesn't mean that any of my edits are automatically incorrect. As an administrator you should pay more attention the actual contribution to Wikipedia. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 08:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Is there a chance for me to get unblocked so I finally get a chance to finish working on the article and take it to FAC? This is what I was going to do: 1) Finish adding material to the article (details, sourcing). 2) Open a peer review. 3) Post a notice to WP:GOCE. 4) Take the article to FAC. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 09:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - How many times do you need to be told that you won't be unblocked if you do not address the reasons for your block? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - In what way can I "address" the reason I was blocked for? MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 10:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Well, you could try an appeal from your primary account, explain why you did it, disclose all the accounts you have used, make a commitment to not do it again - those sort of things. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        
        And you would be well advised to stop evading your block by editing logged out - WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Plant's Strider -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]