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File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Foad-2.jpg

File Copyright problem

Thanks for uploading File:Foad-2.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, we also need to know the terms of the license that the copyright holder has published the file under, usually done by adding a licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Unsourced and untagged files may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the file will be deleted 48 hours after 18:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC). If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw your frustrated post here! I am one of the "actual people" on the other side of the Help desk.

I see that you are drafting an article on your user page. A page you need to read, or at least skim, before you get much further is this one. Your article will need to show that this person meets the conditions described there. Most people don't qualify for Wikipedia articles.

I'm afraid that the rules on picture copyrights and licenses are necessarily complicated, because, unfortunately, the law of copyright is complicated. The first step is to explain where the pictures came from. If you can explain that here, in your own words, I should be able to help you add the appropriate tags to the file descriptions. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The permission tags don't go in the draft article but on the file page - click this link File:Foad-2.jpg and then add your "{{GFDL-no-disclaimers}}" there. But you will still need to say where the image is from. (I'm off to bed now. If you need help, ask your question here, add a "{{helpme}}" tag, and someone should be along quickly) -- John of Reading (talk) 22:05, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page move

Thank you for your emails! Actually, Wikipedia doesn't work with emails very much. The usual way to exchange messages with other Wikipedians is to post them on "talk pages" - see the talk page guidelines.

I have moved your user page to Foad Rafii. You could have done it, following the instructions at Moving a page, but I thought it safer for me to do this one because this talk page needs to stay where it is - it is your talk page, not the article talk page.

With only one reference to news coverage on this person, I'm not sure that the article passes the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (people). There are several awards listed in the info box that do have have references - did any of these generate press coverage? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Foad-2.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Foad-2.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 23:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Help

{{help me}} i have couple of questions about the proscedure of uploading and legality of the photos that i want to upload to an article. i am confused how everything works properly. the article is about the architect, Mr.Foad Rafii and the additional photos that i want to upload are about his style of design and are taken by: 1- himself 2- one of his emploees 3- a paid professional photographer in order to be used for pamphlets, advertising, their website and office needs, etc. Mr. rafii is comfortable about using these photos on his page but wanted to make sure the procedure is legal. He is willing to send wikipedia an email; confirming the source of these photos. My question; can i use these photos? is his confirmation through email enough for all 3 cases to make the photos legal to be used? And if yes, then what is the wikipedia email address that he can send his confirmation to

Need help for removing a Mirroring

So:{{helpme}} please!!! there is a mirroring site here http://wikien4.appspot.com/wiki/Foad_Rafii that mirrors the wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foad_Rafii with a strange spelling! Can anybody do anything about this? they are also using the wikipedia logo. Appreciate your help. pishoo (talk) 18:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing we can do about content on mirror sites unfortunately, although see WP:Mirror and [1]. As for the spelling, at the top it says its the "Elmer Fudd wikipedia" which is why all the l's are w's, and th's are d's and f's--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank a lot jac for the fast reply and the information!pishoo (talk) 19:27, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) The "strange spelling" is actually Elmer Fudd's way of speaking, which is used quite often as a joke around the web. For example, you can use Google in it. As for the mirror itself, there is a process outlined at Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks for such situations, although I cannot say whether those processes will be successful. PErsonally, I don't think the Foundation cares about the use of the logo, but you could of course contact them directly about it: wmf:Contact us. Regards So Why 18:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much sowhy! i will look into the links you told me about. pishoo (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

notes from john

cpied and pasted from his talk page: Foad Rafii pictures(I've broken this off into a new section)

john!, me again! i have couple of photos from different projects which were mentioned on Foad Rafii wikipedia article. those photos are taken by Mr. Rafii himself and some of them by one of his employee at his office. They have no problem with those photos to be uploaded on the page. i have checked the page about uploading files from someone else.To upload, the areas below should be filled and it is asking for some clarifications as follows, and i am not sure how to answer them.

|Description    = 
|Source         = 
|Date           = 19:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
|Author         = 
|Permission     = 
|other_versions =

As for Description; i will get the information about subject of the photo which is a building and will write it- for source; i am not sure what exactly should be clarified in here - for date; day and month is approximate but year is for sure- As for author; i think it means the name of the photographer, right?- for permission; they have no problem for their work to be uploaded but what do i say here to confirm that?- and as for other version; again i am not sure what it exactly means here.pishoo (talk) 19:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note to say I have seen your question but am too sleepy to answer it fully now. It would be easier if Mr Rafii uploaded the pictures himself. If you do it, you will still have to get Mr Rafii to send an email to Wikipedia to confirm that he is happy about it. Wikipedia editors are constantly trying to upload other people's pictures here without going through the permission steps, and they all get deleted! More tomorrow. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let me try again. First, I don't think "project" pictures belong in the Foad Rafii article. The article title and text show that this is supposed to be an article about the person not the company or its projects. A picture of the "Xyz Building" doesn't say much about the life of Mr Rafii. Anyone seeing this page and wanting to know more can click through to the company website and see lots of pictures there. Remember that you are writing an encyclopedia article, not an extension of the Foad Rafii website.

But, to attempt an answer to your question about the {{Information}} template, I think it would go something like this...

|Description    = The Xyz Building, Vancouver, viewed from the south west
|Source         = By email to me from Mr Foad Rafii, the photographer OR the copyright holder (depending)
|Date           = 19:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
|Author         = Foad Rafii architects
|Permission     = To be confirmed by email to OTRS
|other_versions = leave blank unless you are also uploading other versions of the same picture, eg a cropped version

...and you would also need to include the {{OTRS pending}} template. This tells "the system" (another bunch of overworked volunteers) to watch out for an email from Mr Rafii to confirm that he is giving away some or all of his copyright-holder's rights in this picture. You would then have to get Mr Rafii to send an email to Wikipedia following the instructions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. This looks complicated to me! The real copyright experts live at WP:MCQ, so if my answer isn't clear enough then you should ask there.

The problem, of course, is that many, many, Wikipedia editors get hold of a picture from somewhere and upload it claiming that they have permission from the copyright holder. There has to be a robust system in place to ensure that the claims are genuine and that improperly-uploaded pictures are deleted. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

John, thank you so very much for your feedback, thoughts, advices and thorough instruction as usual! You definitely are a very dedicated, overworked volunteer. You got back to me although it was so late at night. Your point of view about photos of buildings in article is totally valid however I was trying to keep consistency in the layout by following a repeated pattern through looking into the articles about architects in Wikipedia and looked at couple of famous ones known to me like - Moshe Safdie & Arthur Erickson- and some Iranian ones like Hossein Amanat - Fariborz Sahba & farshid Mousavi and noticed all of them had couple of work samples (photos) which would show their style of design. I have compared these articles with those with no photos in them and sure the ones with photos were more expresive of who those people were and the articles were more animated and less boaring. So, that is why I am trying to upload some photos of the designs. I will folow your adivices and see how far I can go! One more compliment john; i am a very non technical person who never reads manuals and instructions but could folow your instructions sucssesfully!!! ;)pishoo (talk) 18:05, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Me again - you copy+pasted the displayed text, but I think it would be easier to read if you had copied the wiki markup instead. I have made the switch. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are the best!! :))))))) Thank you!!!!! However i have no idea what wiki markup is!!! :(

"wiki markup" is one term for the stuff you see here when you click "edit" - text with extra squiggles and brackets mixed in to make the "wiki magic" work. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:43, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huh!!! :) thank youuuu!!!! why i never thought about that!!!! :) pishoo (talk) 02:11, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

where do i forward the permission?

{{helpme}} please! regarding OTRS email address.... Does anybody know how i can contact OTRS? i need the email address to OTRS in order to be able to forward the photo owner's permission towards some uploded photos on a wiki site. Thank you! pishoo (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is "permissions-en (at) wikimedia.org". You can find out more about the process at meta:OTRS. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:49, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks!!! I appreciate your help! pishoo (talk) 19:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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