User talk:MARK S.

welcome

Howdy.

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Welcome. ... aa:talk 04:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

JSOC vs JFSOC

Hi, Mark. I'm a defense contractor, and I've heard JSOC referred to a lot as "JFSOC". I think. Are these two separate organizations? I don't see any references internal to wikipedia like that. Also, glad to have you aboard, I hope you'll be able to contribute to our admittedly pretty weak special operations content. Let me know if I can help in any way. People here can be kind of cranky, don't take it too hard. ... aa:talk 04:20, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing

You may want to edit your user page. This helps others know that you're a regular user of the encyclopedia. ... aa:talk 04:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

Came across your userpage and wanted to say hello. I saw that you were interested in editing articles on the US military. I realize your specialty is the Navy and SOCOM but I thought I'd throw it out there that we just started the Portal:United States Marine Corps and are looking for all the help we can. Either way, welcome and I'm sure our paths will cross on some article in the future.--Looper5920 11:39, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries on the edits. I got my hand slapped many times in the beginning. Just part of learning how it works. If you need help with anything let me know and I'll see what I can do.--Looper5920 10:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

your edits

Please take a look at WP:EQ, as some of your recent edits have been rather detrimental. For instance, [1] here you revert Looper's infobox migration without discussion, with the editsummary "simply better thats why". Unfortunately, there are other people who disagree with you, and you probably should have discussed it on the talk page first.

Secondly, your comment [2] here was needlessly placed on the talk page. If you have a personal issue with me, the right place to bring it up was on my talk page. You did not need to "spam" it on the article talk too. Further your comments at this diff [3] are non-verifiable, and non-cited, yet you continue to insist that I'm wrong without citing your own (verifiable) sources.

You seem like a decent chap, and you could be a good editor, many of the military articles here need help. But please remember to edit properly in the future when editing those articles. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 20:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo!

First please read, what I sent to Loop: "HI Looper5920! Swatyester's statement is ok, but notice that i didn't know the "Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military unit infobox" and your endaeavors of standardizing all the unit's info-boxes. Actually I must admit, that the new design is better now, because it's shortened and easier to read and the main opposite arguments (it contained too much information better reseved for the main article) are know obsolete in my oppinion. By the way I didn't decid anything. hope, you answer. (MARK S. 10:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC))"[reply]

Verifiing actual matters officially still classified can obviously not be substantiated by hard(official) sources (as you know). Therefore all the sources I found are iofficial:

1) "The TO (Table of Order) for Delta consists of three operational squadrons, a support squadron, a signal squadron, an aviation platoon, and what is termed the "Funny Platoon". This funny platoon is reported to be the only JSOC unit including female operators."-http://www.specwarnet.com/americas/delta.htm
2) "The Funny Platoon": This is the in-house Intelligence arm of Delta. They grew out of a long-running dispute/rivalry with ISA. They will infiltrate a country ahead of a Delta intervention to gather intelligence. They are the only US Special Operation Force to employ woman in a combat role (the only other SOF that has employed women at all has been Army Special Forces, and then, only in a training role)."- http://www.delta-green.com/opensource/textbook/socom.html
3) " There is also the Funny Platoon, an intel group that uses female operatives."-http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dngrjobs.htm
4) "Under its umbrella, Delta is said to consist of three operational — direct action shooting — squadrons, a support squadron, a signal squadron, an aviation platoon, and what is often referred to as the Funny Platoon, believed to be one of the few special operations units allowing female operators among the trigger pullers."-http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Swatjester&action=submit

Possibly these sources do not meet scientific demands but they are an indication for the "Funny Platoon's existence. (MARK S. 14:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Classified stuff

Hey Mark, just browsing through some of your pages, and I didn't find anything specific, but, considering your area of expertise, please make sure you don't place classified information U.S. special forces. Obviously there's no rule against this, other than some respect and courtesy for the armed forces. thanks a bunch. 22:03, 17 October 2006 (Chopin-Ate-Liszt! (Talk | contribs))

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Sayeret Matkal

Hi, Mark, I have a question about your "14:14, 11 November 2006" edit to Sayeret Matkal with the "(correction of establishment' s date)" summary. Specifically, this is about the article's second sentence, which your edit changed from:

It was established in 1957 as Unit 269 by veterans of the Paratroopers Brigade, Unit 101 and the IDF's Intelligence Branch (Aman).

to:

It was established in 1964 as of the Paratroopers Brigade's Sayeret (890th Battalion) and the IDF's Intelligence Branch (Aman).

Your use here of the phrase "as of the" makes this sentence unintelligible. I'm guessing that this was a simple copy-and-paste error or incompleted edit. However, I don't know the facts to fix the sentence on my own. Here are two possible re-wordings that occur to me:

(1) Replace the phrase "as of the" with the phrase "as a combination of the" to read as follows:

It was established in 1964 as a combination of the Paratroopers Brigade's Sayeret (890th Battalion) and the IDF's Intelligence Branch (Aman).

or:

(2) Replace the phrase "as of the" with the phrase "with veterans of the" to read as follows:It was established in 1964 with veterans of the Paratroopers Brigade's Sayeret (890th Battalion) and the IDF's Intelligence Branch (Aman).

Would one of those be factually correct? Actually, the wording of (1) poses a logical problem because, if Sayeret Matkal "reports to Aman" then it was probably not created by combining Aman with another unit. So, I think that if sentence (2) is factually OK, it would be preferable. What do you think?

--Rich Janis 09:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rich Janis, thanks for correcting. The second version is ment: "It was established in 1964 with veterans of the Paratroopers Brigade's Sayeret (890th Battalion) and the IDF's Intelligence Branch (Aman)." (MARK S. 12:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

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