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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Benjamin Jordan. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 22:32, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Jordan (November 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DGG was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

this is a press release, not an NPOV encyclopedia article

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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DGG ( talk ) 23:08, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LyndsayNicole! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DGG ( talk ) 23:08, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Benjamin Jordan (November 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This draft, as written, does not appear to indicate that one of the biographical notability criteria is satisfied. If one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page or in AFC comments which criterion is met, and resubmit. It is the responsibility of the submitter to show that a subject satisfies a notability criterion.

You may ask for advice about the biographical notability criteria at the Teahouse.

In particular, see and refer to WP:NCREATIVE for notability, which is the guideline that the subject should be evaluated against.

Now that much of the puffery has been removed, there is not really enough left to establish notability. If the submitter thinks that the subject is notable as a filmmaker, please read the guidelines for notability for creative professionals and rework to establish notability as a filmmaker.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Benjamin Jordan and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Benjamin Jordan, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis of your sources

You may be wondering why Draft:Benjamin Jordan keeps getting rejected. The reasons are described in Wikipedia:Golden rule. Let me go over those sources:

https://www.flyozone.com/paragliders/team/benjamin-jordan - sales site with a profile and interview, which would be a primary source because the information comes from the subject; this isn't coverage of the subject.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3299837/ - IMDB is user-generated content and cannot be cited as a source for anything about a living person. It can be included in "External links" section, but nothing more.
https://skateslate.com/blog/2017/08/23/15th-annual-toronto-board-meeting-september-7-10th/ - trivial mention, not significant coverage of the person.
https://skateslate.com/blog/2016/10/10/give-thanks-and-push-for-the-cure/ - trivial mention, not significant coverage.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/4-skateboarders-raise-40k-for-breast-cancer-research-1.620887 - trivial mention.
http://www.usairnet.com/paragliding-news/powered-paramotor-flies-across-canada/1001245/ - pretty good source, but provides more coverage about an event than about the person.
https://www.nirvana.cz/lequipe-de-course-nirvana-nrt - this source provides very little coverage although it does establish notability (Guinness book of world records), and this fact should be stated and cited in the lead section. It would be better to cite the actual world record from Guinness though.
https://mountainculturegroup.com/how-one-man-broke-a-world-record-paragliding-the-rockies/ - this is a primary source written by the subject. It can be cited but because it includes only claims by the subject about himself, it cannot be used to establish notability. Secondary sources are preferred, not primary sources.
https://www.trailtimes.ca/entertainment/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-man-west-kootenay-paraglider-ponders-gender-confidence-in-documentary/ - good source, good coverage. This is really the only decent source in the draft.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6865622/ - IMDB cannot be cited.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10278270/ - IMDB cannot be cited.
https://vimff.org/film/strong-the-wind-blows/ - advertisement of a film, not about the article subject.
https://vimff.org/the-endless-chain-online/ - advertisement of a film, not coverage of the subject.

You have one good source and one reasonable source, but they are buried in a pile of junk sources. I recommend you completely get rid of the trivial mentions and focus on writing an article around sources that provide actual coverage. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your detailed analysis of my draft article. I really appreciate your help and will work on obtaining more relevant references before re-submitting my work. LyndsayNicole (talk) 16:02, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

you also asked me for further comment. Looking at the present article, I see no major press coverage: I think the two sources the above reviewer found acceptable or possibly acceptable are hobbyist or local sources, which usually are not counted as heavily for notability . In addition, WP being in the Guiness book of records has almost never been accepted here as evidence for notability. DGG ( talk ) 21:01, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Benjamin Jordan

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:02, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Benjamin Jordan

Hello, LyndsayNicole. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Benjamin Jordan".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 15:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]