User talk:Lspsurfer

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November 2010

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You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, instead of writing it yourself, as you did at Sigma Kappa Alpha. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you.

In the case of an article about your fraternity, you'll need to show that it's a notable organization. Please note that typically articles about single-chapter local fraternities are not deemed to be notable, unless there is something unusual in their history and there is substantial coverage of it in independent reliable sources. —C.Fred (talk) 22:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you hit the nail on the head in your reply on my talk page:

people don't know enough about our fraternity to make a complete wikipedia article

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about subjects that are already notable. You can't put an article on Wikipedia in the hopes of making the subject more notable/popular/well-known. (If the Foundation had a dime for every garage band that did that…) For what it's worth, I just did a Google search on the string "Sigma Kappa Alpha" and got no relevant hits. Google hits don't equate to notability, but if I can't find secondary sources (or primary sources!) with a Google search, it stands to reason that there are no sources to verify any claims that would be made in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 00:44, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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