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LINCOLN DEATH PHOTO DEBATE:TAKE 3!
[edit]What some have said here regarding my insistance on the truth being revealed is a lie against the very truth of the matter I and many others seek to have shown to the world, lays heavy on my heart! sir.
That is a non NPOV look at what my work here has been about! and what you are saying here regarding my insistance on the truth is a lie against the truth of my words and long research regarding this matter, sirs.
Fore~ This is not a "one person/insane war of mine" (as some uneducated ones here would try to make my efforts out to be) but instead this effort of mine has always been to reveal the truth about the Bachelder Photograph, and both the genuine and wrongly overlooked nature of it by the unwiilling, and or "thick of skulled" and those who would make a lie of its legitimate nature in spite of many mistatements of the facts sourounding it and its history, sir.
I suggest ANYONE who wants to see the facts of its genuineness refer to the Ostendorf, Lloyd, Lincoln's Photographs: A Complete Album, Morningside Books, 1998, ISBN 0-89029-087-3. for the complete story, there was a 2004 edition too by the way, I own that copy myself and it is available through "Morningside Books on the web and at quality historicaly oriented bookstores nationwide, We are all seeking the truth and this is simply another piece of the jigsaw-puzzle of the life and death of a great american , Abraham Lincoln....I thank those of you with an open mind to new facts and the courage to look before you condemn me a encyclopedic reporter of a major find wrongly overlooked and , personal attacks made upon me for daring to report on this historical and important find.
(All of this writing here of mine is done in good faith, and with the strict intent of a NPOV edit.)
Let those who are without fear look for themselves, and I dare say that YOU "Lonely Pilgrim", ARE not following NPOV Wiki procedure, by taking a totaly predudical and biased view of which YOU have not even bother to investigate YOURSELF in detail, as I have, and in depth as I have by pouring over the materials available on the Lincoln photograph in question, as the respected life~long Lincoln historian, Lloyd Ostendorf himself did, and his finds, and that of the Bachelder family and their photos they engraved themselves with their own writing, saying it "was John Bachelder himself who took that post mortuem photograph of Lincoln as a study for a later painting", cannot be denied as the facts that they are both historicaly, and in and of it's encyclopedic nature.
In summation I would refer anyone seeking the truth of the matter once more to: Ostendorf, Lloyd, Lincoln's Photographs: A Complete Album, Morningside Books, 1998, ISBN 0-89029-087-3
Thank you for your attention to this very important matter and by the way I never knew about this! (Cathytreks 04:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
" Cathytreks's post of 2004/09/23, in which she refers to her own website states that her "exstensive research has found NOTHING to support such a second photograph in fact!"
THIS ABOVE QU0TE of yours "Lonely Pilgrim", IS ANOTHER SERIES OF LIE'S PUBLISHED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY POSING AS ME TO DISCREDIT THE PHOTOGRAPH FURTHER, AND THE ONGOING RESEARCH ON IT!
AND THIS LIE BELOW!!!(Cathytreks 04:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
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Note further that Cathytreks is aware of all of these statements, yet continues to vehemently push her agenda.
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This Sir, is all untrue and I never heard of these ATTACKS AND LIES/statements untill just now!, and did not realise there were several persons at work here to discredit both the photograpgh of Lincoln in death, and me as a serious researcher on Lincoln, (RV Norton and his band of unbelievers or coverup artists I sohould say!) never recieved anything from me as we do not agree on the matter in question here, and another or others used my screen name in an attempt to further the lies it seems to me!
I seek only to have the truth revealed about here on in a npov way. (Cathytreks 03:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
And regarding Blaine Houmes The "doctor" who claims to "own" the photograph of Lincoln in death that he lyingly calls a etching, is another perpetrator of the lie's and coverups surrounding this genuine Lincoln photograph!!!, for you see my friends and enemys, the photograph is still very much in the possesion of Bachelders decendants! Ishould know as I live a mere 2 miles from where John B Bachelder is buried in Nottingham N.H. and know his decendants personaly very well, and can, will and do vouch for the authenticity of the Lincoln Death Photograph!
(Cathytreks 04:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
Sir if you want further proofs in a polite way? I will be happy to talk with any of you on the phone or show you in person what has been covered up and mislead about since Orstendorfs book was printed in 1998, THE LINCOLN DEATH PHOTOGRAPH! (Cathytreks 04:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC))
REPLY TO LINCOLN PHOTO REQUEST
[edit]LonelyPilgrim...It looks like the forces of evil have won temperarily over the forces of good for now, I shall make no further encyclopeadia contributions though I know Bachelder's story as well or better than anyone here, nor shall I attempt to "prove" the Lincoln death photo to those here as there are many with eyes who refuse to see the truth, so I am already doing work along the lines of what you suggested above ...in a positive way.
Thank you for your kindness and when the photo and its story are reinstated as they will be someday, there will humble crow pie aplenty for those who mocked and ridiculed my sincere efforts for the truth to be known and shown to the world....your not one of them, and I am greatful for your nice way of putting things without putting me off as some/most would do. (Cathytreks 02:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC))