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WizardOfTheNorth, good luck, and have fun. --roleplayer 12:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference sources

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I notice that you have removed reference information from several railway station articles, such as these: Castleton, Manchester Victoria, Oldham Mumps, Oldham Werneth, Rochdale. Why was this? --Redrose64 (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have been correcting and expanding a number of entries. One of the issues that arose with corrections of fact was that it was not obvious what the source of the orignal information had been, since there were no inline references. Subsequently one of these errors was traced to a book which had been listed as a general reference. As at least one of the station entries has a correct inline reference to a book, so it seems to me that if books are going to be referenced they should be by that method, and not by a generic reference.WizardOfTheNorth (talk) 12:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some articles may contain what may appear to be general references, but which are in fact the second stage of a citation style known as "shortened footnotes", see WP:CITESHORT. This is quite a common method, mainly used where various facts have been drawn from several different pages in the same book, because it saves cluttering up the page with full citations every time. See, for example, Canadian federal election, 1957, which is today's main page featured article. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have looked at Canadian federal election, 1957 and I note that it contains over 130 inline references. I can see that the use of "shortened footnotes" is desirable for a piece of that length and complexity. What I don't see is the point of using it for entries of only a few lines. The problem remains that if the fairly short entries that I have been editing contain factual errors and only a generic reference, then I see no reason why they should not be replaced by a factual correction with an inline reference. I have already come across a number of instances where incorrect information from Wikipedia entries has been repeated in other media, and its accuracy has been (correctly) challenged so I would say that the priority should be on factual accurancy rather than the style of presentation.WizardOfTheNorth (talk) 19:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wizard I see you have been editing for some time so you should know we do not use Wikipedia as a reference for Wikipedia. I changed the url to an internal link.--Charles (talk) 17:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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