User talk:Llynn2

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Brianda (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:18, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

December 2023

Hello, I'm Epicgenius. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to East Flatbush, Brooklyn seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page.

Hello, and thanks for your contributions to the East Flatbush, Brooklyn article. I noticed you added some information here about gentrification. Unfortunately, we cannot add sentences like "If you wish to hear more testaments to the unjust practices of landlords and real estate companies in East Flatbush neighborhoods, and want to contribute to the equality for East Flatbush and stopping the neighborhood's gentrification, please visit this site" to articles. Our neutral point of view policy says that "Wikipedia describes disputes. Wikipedia does not engage in disputes"; sadly, the entire gentrification section does not meet that policy. We also cannot promote the points of views of organizations such as Equality for Flatbush, per our guideline that Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion.

Please do not be disheartened by this; gentrification in East Flatbush has certainly been covered by reliable sources—however, it needs to be described in a neutral tone, rather than in an essay-like format. Epicgenius (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for attempting to fix your addition. However, there are still several significant issues with the edit. I will name a few examples:

• The paragraphs that begin with "Gentrification brings about a multitude of challenges.", "Another common misconception with gentrification is that it happens overnight. That is not true; it is a very well-thought out multi-step plan to displace low-income people of color." and "A third misconception is that new investments bring about community unity because it's presumably what the “community wants”." still violate our "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion" policy. These are more similar to essays; Wikipedia is meant to describe factual information in a neutral tone. Describing gentrification as a "multi-step plan to displace low-income people of color", unless that's what the source says, is in violation of that.
• Some may believe that the housing market will naturally adjust to accommodate different income levels, but as we can understand from Melvin Rivera’s testament, the opposite happens, instead. - This also does not use encyclopedic tone. For example, our guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Unsupported attributions specifically warns against using phrases like "some may believe", and our guideline Wikipedia:Manual of Style#First-person pronouns says that first-person pronouns should not be used in articles.
• Rivera is not the only tenant who can make a testament to the unfair practices imbeded in the gentrification process and This is entirely incorrect and many organizations such as Equality for Flatbush (E4F) can attest to that - These are also examples of essay-like writing. For the first example, we cannot say in Wikipedia's voice that something is "unfair", we need a source that specifically says that. Theoretically, you can say that "Rivera is not the only tenant who has spoken out against gentrification"; however, I do not think specific anecdotes are needed at all to get the point across. For the second example, you don't need to mention something, only to then say that it is incorrect - just say something like "according to Equality for Flatbush, new investments do not bring about community unity".
• Regarding the sources: one source does not mention East Flatbush at all, two other are from E4F (which is an advocacy group), and only the NYC.gov source is acceptable; however, it is already used in the article, and the information you added was already sourced properly. Please also see Help:Referencing for beginners for information on how to properly to cite a source.

These are only some of the issues that led me to revert your edit. I really do not want to be harsh or discouraging, but these additions unfortunately need some work, and it should not fall to volunteer editors to point out these issues. It would be helpful if your instructor and Wikipedia Expert could give you guidance on this. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:43, 18 December 2023 (UTC)