User talk:Listener Sheogorath

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Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 04:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

February 2013

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The following is the log entry regarding this message: Peter and Wendy was changed by Listener Sheogorath (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.911352 on 2013-02-12T00:42:13+00:00 . Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 00:42, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Peter and Wendy. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Josh3580_talk/hist 01:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My problem is, how do I cite the contents of my Yahoo! Mail inbox? The info I supplied was sent to me directly by GOSH in response to an email of enquiry that I sent to them, and I could copy and paste the email after redacting sensitive information, but where?

Listener Sheogorath (talk) 02:26, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Posting private emails

Hi, I removed your posting of private correspondence from the Peter and Wendy discussion page. Private correspondence is copyright and if the author has not consented to publishing them under a free license compatible with Wikipedia, they cannot be posted here. Additionally, as others have told you on that page, under the Verifiability policy, you need to find verifiable, published reliable sources to support your assertions. Private emails cannot be used to verify article content. What you are doing there is known as original research and it is against Wikipedia policy. Sarah 06:28, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If constant censure is what I get for trying to be helpful, then I no longer have the desire to help. Please delete my account and all associated personal data effective immediately. Listener Sheogorath (talk) 08:44, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry you feel that way and I do hope you will reconsider at some point. This was definitely not an attempt at "constant censure". Wikipedia has very strict rules regarding both copyright and sourcing and they are considered core principles which are non-negotiable. I am not trying to censure you, rather, we all have to abide by the same rules when participating here. I realise that you don't have a lot of experience here and it probably seems unfair but if you get more experience and become more familiar with our policies, I think you will quickly come to understand these rules, why they are important and how they protect both the project and us as individual contribu6ors.

Another issue to consider: while you redacted your own personal details from the text that you posted, it contained full unredacted personal details of the author (full name, address, phone numbers, etc), which, regardless of copyright and sourcing rules, is unacceptable to post here without the author's consent. The text you posted also included a disclaimer from the author which clearly and expressly refused permission to permit copying, sharing and distribution of the text, so there was no ambiguity regarding the issue of whether the author had released their text under a free usage license compatible with Wikipedia.

Unfortunately, we do not have the technical ability to delete accounts. Part of the copyright release you agree to every time you click the "Save page" button below the edit box, requires us to ensure all edits are attributable to an account. Thus administrators do not even have the technical ability to delete an account. I am unsure what "data" you are asking me to delete, but likewise we cannot delete contributions. All contributions are irrevocably released under the CC-BY-SA-3.0 License and the GFDL. I hope you will reconsider your desire to give up on the project because of the issues which arose with regard to your posting of private emails, but if that is your decision, you should simply stop using your account. Sarah 16:46, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]