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Cheers, mate!

Well done for restoring UnrealIRCd! An innocent which didn't deserve to die. No I didn't notice, thanks for letting me know. The UnrealIRCd delete did convince me that deletionists are commerically motivated. I was getting concerned which Long Spoons side of the fence was being created on Wikipedia. Faith restored  :-) Many thanks. Geoffjw1978 T L C 22:25, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

upload picture JJeener

Hello, some time ago we corresponded concerning the wiki page of Jean Jeener. Its online now. I would like to upload a photo of Jeener. Seems I can do so wiki commons. However the photo was taken by my sister. How to proceed? Is it sufficient if she sends me an email saying that the photo is now public to use under such a license (need exact text), and I copy this email at the appropriate place when uploading the photo? Also do I need an email from Jeener giving authorization for his portrait to be made public? Your help would be appreciated.Smassar (talk) 11:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Have her send it to me with this filled out form completed;

I hereby affirm that CHOOSE ONE: [I, (name here) am] OR [(copyright holder's name) is] the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of [SPECIFY THE WORK HERE - describe the work to be released in detail, attach the work to the email, or give the URL of the work if online]

I agree to STANDARD CHOICE; SEE BELOW FOR MORE INFORMATION ON TYPE OF LICENSE: [publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).]

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

[SENDER'S NAME AND DETAILS (to allow future verification of authenticity)]
[SENDER'S AUTHORITY (Are you the copyright-holder, director, appointed representative of, etc.)]
[DATE]

I'll send it through OTRS, upload it and add it to the article. Jeener is a public figure with pictures published elsewhere, so his specific permission for this picture is not required, as long as it's nondefamatory. --Lexein (talk) 07:03, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:WickerTree web crop 400x270.jpg

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Jack Kevorkian: Beyond Any Kind of God

The book glimmerIQs is on my shelf and it has both Slimmericks and the Demi-Diet and Beyond Any Kind of God in it. Does that not count for proof of both books being incorporated into glimmerIQs? If not, then you must remove the sign next to Slimmericks and the Demi-Diet as well. InYourFaceNewYorker (talk) 06:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Relax. If you'd said that in the first place, and inline cited it with a page number (instead of the personal recollection) I wouldn't have reverted it. Problem solved. --Lexein (talk) 16:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

My bug

Bug 31755 - Styling in headers breaks sortable tables. Now says "Resolved/Fixed". Wonder when it will be rolled out:

Name	Surname	Height
John	Smith	1.85
Ron	Ray	1.89
Mario	Bianchi	1.72
	Average:	1.82

--Lexein (talk) 21:48, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Update on the bug report: The workaround for this bug is to use specific background styling:

style="background-color:#123456;" will work just fine. --Lexein (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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halls of fame

Hi, Lexein. In your edit at List of halls and walks of fame (undoing my deletion of the listing of the NBL Hall of Fame), your edit summary says: "We don't delete other nations' halls of fame" (or words close to that). Although I am a U.S. citizen living in the U.S., I don't consider myself a "U.S. editor"; instead I consider myself an "English-language Wikipedia" editor who happens to be a U.S. citizen in the U.S.

When I saw that a new hall of fame had been added to the list, I clicked on it (NBL Hall of Fame) and read that "[i]n 2010, the Basketball Australia Hall of Fame and National Basketball League Hall of Fame were united under the Australian Basketball Hall of Fame to acknowledge the restructure of the NBL and Basketball Australia into a single, united governing body." I then went to Australian Basketball Hall of Fame and saw that each inductee's listing includes a notation as to their predecessor hall of fame. Because the NBL HoF now has a successor HoF, I thought it would be logical to delete the old HoF and add its successor HoF, which I then did. Thus, I was not deleting another nation's HoF; instead (as a Wikipedia editor) I was replacing a defunct HoF with its successor HoF.

I try not to be an "ugly American". When I revamped and expanded the HoF categories several months ago, I in fact created two categories for other nations: Category:Halls of fame in Australia and Category:Halls of fame in the United Kingdom. I have also created three articles for other nations: Baseball Australia Diamond Awards, Baseball Australia Hall of Fame, and Royal Air Force Chaplains Branch.

Although I disagree with your statement that "We don't delete other nations' halls of fame", I do see the value of having the NBL HoF included on this list, as a cross-reference.

Even if we don't see eye-to-eye on this matter, I do appreciate your "going to bat" for Australia. It would appear that both of us view the English Wikipedia as an international project/entity. It is an amazing project, further proof that the Internet is making our world smaller and smaller. Eagle4000 (talk) 02:16, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, but that's what WP:Edit summaries and/or article WP:Talk pages and/or hidden comments are for, to concisely explain such deletions as they are made. Thanks for the (belated) explanation.

My edit summary was merely a statement of general truth here, not an attack, in direct response to the apparent deletion, and the several additions of "(U.S.)". I merely missed that a replacement for the OZ hall was being made. No harm, no foul.

Your edit revealed that there is much duplication between Australian Basketball Hall of Fame and its section at National Basketball League (Australasia)#Hall_of_Fame. I think the Australian Basketball Hall of Fame article should be the master article, and the NBL article should link to it with a {{main}} hatnote under the section heading. --Lexein (talk) 02:39, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I can see how my edit may have appeared to be nationalistic. I will try to keep that in mind when I delete text, e.g., by including a concise explanation in my edit summary (to try to prevent misunderstandings, although I guess misunderstandings are inevitable). Eagle4000 (talk) 03:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Henry Albert Seymour

Hi Lexein,

Do you think the article is ready to go up?

I have the hardcopy of the EMG stroy so will be able to source the page when I get home from work tomorrow.

Many thanks for all your input and help

Danielhuckfield (talk) 19:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk pages

Please do not edit my talk page comments. This is simply not accepted on Wikipedia. If you disagree with something I've said, you are entitled to say that you disagree with something I've said. You may not strike my comments. Please undo your strike through of my comments. Thanks. Wikipedia:TALK#Others.27_comments - SummerPhD (talk) 04:26, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I didn't change one letter of your deliberately false, misrepresentative, off-point comment. I merely added strikeout codes to my comments, in order to strikeout your comment. Usually, false or defamatory statements are deleted. But I believe in openness and transparency. So there we are. --Lexein (talk) 08:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

My comment was not "deliberately false". Please assume good faith. In fact, you have yet to identify any portion of it was false, deliberately or otherwise. Further, your struck out the entire comment. If you wish to argue that each and every portion of it was false, I'm willing to listen. I doubt this is the case.

I do not believe my comment was "misrepresentative". If you feel individual pieces of what I said reflect a misunderstanding of what you were trying to say, you are certainly welcome to clarify on the talk page.

My comments are not "off-point". They are discussing changes to the associated article.

Your argument that you added code to your comments is pointless. You added code to strikeout my comments. This is not acceptable. "The basic rule—with some specific exceptions outlined below—is that you should not edit or delete the comments of other editors without their permission.Never edit or move someone's comment to change its meaning, even on your own talk page. Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request." Wikipedia:Talk#Others.27_comments As you have refused to do so, I am restoring my comment. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hollywood Walk of Fame

Hi. I don't think I deleted any text, but I did do some reconfiguring of paragraphs, and fixed one dismembered reflink apparently (according to the diff you provided). Feel free to undo anything that doesn't look good. Quis separabit? 16:02, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

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Censorship

Hi Lexein,

I hope you don't mind I censored a part of your comment. If you do mind feel free to revert me. I think I improved your comment by removing that part. Arcandam (talk) 09:40, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahem, it's not good to edit other editor's comments without a policy-based reason - see WP:TPOC. Far better to make the suggestion on the editor's Talk page, or by email. In "not your mom" I was referencing this, and thinking of XKCD. --Lexein (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Ahem, actually it is mentioned in the guideline you are referring to (Nota bene: A guideline is not a policy. A policy is not a guideline.). Did you read WP:TPOC? To be honest and clear I do not care about what you are referencing. Remember the promise you made (top-right of your talkpage, in a caption under an image). Arcandam (talk) 12:39, 4 June 2012 (UTC) p.s. I struck through part of my earlier comment because of your last comment.

Afinghem, you didn't ask my permission to change my comment, and you have declined to state a policy or guideline-based reason for changing it, therefore I'm reverting and expanding it. It is commonplace practice not to pick nits; we often say 'policy' to compactly refer to the panoply of pillar, policy, guideline, essay, or discussion consensus. --Lexein (talk) 14:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Koetjesreep. What is a Afinghem? Do you mean Affinghem? As you would've known if you would've read that guideline you linked to I did not need your permission to change that comment... I've chosen to post a friendly message here instead of using a templated warning. Please don't make me regret that. Arcandam (talk) 15:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC) p.s. People who read your comment may think you put the original message back, but that is not the case. p.p.s. If you are curious about what a koetjesreep is you should Google it.

Blekko is malware

I'm not certain how Blekko got into my computer, but it was uninvited and "took over" by changing my home page and search engine. You allege you have authority to stop people calling this what it is and will do so until some noteworthy publication advises otherwise. Who makes your list of noteworthy publications?

Do you know what malware is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.111.46 (talk) 22:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I refer you to everything I've already written on the subject. It is regrettable that you are "not certain how Blekko (what? The search bar? or the browser plugin?) got into your computer". If you check your browser history, you can probably figure out from which site you a) intentionally downloaded something desirable which unfortunately also bundled Blekko's searchbar installer (like many CNET downloads, currently), or b) unintentionally downloaded the Blekko searchbar installer directly.

I would not suggest that you should keep it or even be silent about the intrusion. I would be outraged, too. But I installed it, and uninstalled it, without any difficulty whatsoever, so my experience is exactly the opposite of yours.

"Malware" is a very strong claim, requiring very reliable sources. The previously cited blog called it "potentially unwanted", specifically "not malware."

To answer your question about what sources are reliable, major established publications with editorial staffs and factchecking, that's who, per WP:RS, and mostly not blogs. Blekko's published information is considered a "primary source" - these are to be carefully used, since independent reliable sources are greatly preferred. Otherwise, Wikipedia would become a forest of press releases.

I hope this helps. --Lexein (talk) 03:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)