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[edit]Hello Lena Key, My name is Stephanie Barker and I am a student at the University of Colorado Boulder. I am currently enrolled in a Digital Anthropology class, which attempts to answer how the digital world affects culture and how culture affects the digital world. For my final project I am doing an ethnography on women Wikipedia users and as a member of the WikiProject Women page I was hoping I could ask you some questions about your experiences editing Wikipedia pages. 1. Have you ever been locked into an intense editing war? If yes, please explain the situation to me. 2. How did you become interested in editing Wikipedia pages and did you have any initial fears/hesitations when you started editing pages? 3. Have you ever been a victim of a mass deletion or other vandalism on Wikipedia? If yes, please explain the situation to me. 4. How would you describe your gender? 5. Is there anything else you would like to share with me about your experiences as a Wikipedia editor? Thank you for taking the time to read this email. I would like you to know that I am only sharing my research with my professor and the other students in my class. If you would like me to send you a copy of my final project, I would be more than happy to! Sincerely, Stelba90 (talk) 01:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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The article Talia Hibbert has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
There is a much better draft than what is here. Also currently fails WP:NBIO.
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Mary Mallon
[edit]I reverted your edits to Mary Mallon. None of the references you added were meaningful. Blogs are explicitly excluded, see WP:BLOGS. The issu video was about irish americans, seemed to have nothing to do with healthcare workers being unaware of healthy carriers. Nor did the google books review of Anthony Bourdain's "An Urban Historical". Tarl N. (discuss) 18:42, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop and answer the concerns here. By immediately reinstating your edits in a different form, without responding to concerns, you are engaged in edit warring. Tarl N. (discuss) 18:47, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- I tried to respond to your concerns in the way I reposted. I did not see this comment until afterwards. You said I quoted a google search, but it was really a link to a book (biography) found on google books, that is about Mary Mallon. That may not be the best way to add the reference, but what you said is misleading. In that magazine Irish America found on issuu, pages 72-74 are an article on Mary Mallon. You can search within the magazine on that site. So I don't feel like your criticisms are really in good faith. In any case, all I really wanted to do was change the word "lover" to "boyfriend" which I think is more appropriate. Lena Key (talk) 18:53, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- Citations should be immediately relevant and obvious. If you expect someone to search to find that there is something meaningful on page 72, you've made a mistake. As for good faith, please read WP:AGF, you seem to have immediately decided I was acting in bad faith, which is not a good start to a conversation.
- As to the current specifics.
- As to changing the word "lover" to "boyfriend" because it would be more appropriate. Do you have a citation that uses that word? I think both are inappropriate, my references on Mary do not specifically state either. The most they state is that she visited him frequently. Do you have a reference that states otherwise?
- It appears the Bourdain book was already listed under "further reading", and this time you moved it up to sources so you could cite it. What specifically are you citing, that makes it a source rather than a further reading?
- The issu reference is still inappropriate - if you cite something and expect people to search within it to find some nugget, you've made a mistake. I briefly glanced at it, and thought it was a youtube video. When I tried to look into it, all I got was a series of ads, which makes me think this is WP:REFSPAM or something like it. Does this magazine about irish-americans state something specific about healthcare workers? Tarl N. (discuss) 19:09, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- The word boyfriend is used on page 73 of the Irish America magazine article from 2017. I am open to other descriptions of their relationship but can't think of anything better at the moment. I am concerned that you are still downplaying the research and citations I have done. You call an article about Mary Mallon in a magazine a "nugget". Moreover, I think it would be a good idea for you to learn a bit about the website Issuu as it has a lot of magazines and I don't think it should be disregarded as spam, even if the internet is rife with ads. I have looked at WP:AGF and I think we can both improve our actions in this regard. I was upset that you falsely claimed I was edit warring, even though I did not just reinstate my changes but tried to improve upon them given your concerns that I had seen at the time. Lena Key (talk) 17:36, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- The article is loaded with scholarly and contemporary sources, and you were adding what are at best recent popularizations. I still have no idea what you found in the Bourdain book, you never mentioned in any comment what it claimed.
As for the issu Irish American magazine - it only gets me ads, I don't see a way to get to the article text. Maybe someone familiar with their practices could get through their advertisements to the 72nd page and find what you are referencing.Regardless, as a reference, it's less than ideal - even assuming it provides some detail not provided in the more formal citations. It sounds like you found them describing the relationship between Mallon and the person Soper tracked down (his name escapes me at this time) - in which case, you placed the citations on the wrong sentence. Your citations were placed on a statement about healthcare workers. I will comment that popularizations are not ideal sources, they often "interpret" things which aren't stated in their own sources. In this case, the Soper accounts suggested a relationship between Mallon and her male friend, but did not actually state it. I doubt any other source actually determined their relationship, so a popularization a century later should be viewed with a jaundiced eye. That sentence should have been limited to "friend", without stating a sexual relationship. Tarl N. (discuss) 23:52, 25 October 2020 (UTC)- I figured out how to get through the issu advertisement traps and find the text, so I struck out my above comment on issu. The person who's name I couldn't remember was Breihof, so I suspect you really did want to put that citation on an earlier sentence. I don't remember seeing an earlier claim that they lived together, it's entirely possible they dug that up from somewhere. I still suggest that a century-later popularization isn't the ideal source when so many contemporary and peer-reviewed sources exist. Tarl N. (discuss) 00:00, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- The article is loaded with scholarly and contemporary sources, and you were adding what are at best recent popularizations. I still have no idea what you found in the Bourdain book, you never mentioned in any comment what it claimed.
- I tried to respond to your concerns in the way I reposted. I did not see this comment until afterwards. You said I quoted a google search, but it was really a link to a book (biography) found on google books, that is about Mary Mallon. That may not be the best way to add the reference, but what you said is misleading. In that magazine Irish America found on issuu, pages 72-74 are an article on Mary Mallon. You can search within the magazine on that site. So I don't feel like your criticisms are really in good faith. In any case, all I really wanted to do was change the word "lover" to "boyfriend" which I think is more appropriate. Lena Key (talk) 18:53, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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