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Borough names

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Could I get some backup in the borough name discussion page? -Montréalais 01:36, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Could you also explain to me a little bit about the arbitration process? The description on the pages is a bit Byzantine, and Earl seems uninterested in actual argument. - Montréalais 06:44, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Street directions

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Please note that street directions go after the street name, not before it (Sherbrooke Street West; not West Sherbrooke Street). See, for example, Canada Post [1] and the Gazette [2]. - Farquard 19:43, 2 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


English names in Montreal

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Please post new comments about English Names on Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Montreal/Discussions/English Names. Thank you.


This user is essentially going through all Wikipedia's Montreal entries and moving pages with French titles to English translations. Is this acceptable? --Wetman 5 July 2005 04:39 (UTC)

I've posted a note at what was boulevard Saint-Laurent. In many of the cases I've seen, including Saint-Laurent, it's not, because English speakers almost invariably use the French terms. In other cases, (perhaps Saint Catherine street) it may be. But I'll await this user's response before doing anything. Acegikmo1 5 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)


Hello. I don't want to create any controversy. I wanted to make all the Montreal articles English (instead of having Chinatown, Montreal, but Village gai, Crescent Street, but boulevard Saint-Laurent.

I believe that this is acceptable since these names are traditional, if not 'official'. Just look at Kiev, Rome, Turin (and most other Italian cities) in both English and French. These names are accepted even though they are different from the ones in the official language. Montreal isn't like Paris; we have a long tradition of anglophones in the province, especially this city. I am not trying to impose my will. I started a Montreal Wikiportal, please visit and contribute. It is still very much under construction, but there is a discussion about English names and possibly collborating on a Style Guide for Montreal articles. I believe at the very least, all generics (street, ave, boulevard, cemetary, catherdal, Chinatown, Gay Village, etc...) should be in English, as should places with traditional English names (Saint Catherine street, Saint Lawrence boulevard, etc...)

As for Saint Lawrence boulevard, it is true that the French specific (Saint-Laurent boulevard) is used more often in other cases (Saint Catherine street), but I would say that it is used never to only about half of the time depending on the speaker (those from the East End use it more, but what's important is that those from Downton and the West End, which are the main anglophone communities, generally prefer Saint Lawrence boulevard. The most preferred by far is simply "Saint Lawrence" or "The Main").

I hope that discussions on this topic can remain open-minded and fair to the fact that anglophones have lived in Montreal for hundreds of years, and form a sizeable part of the population. In other discussions, supporters of the French names have simply ignored or insulted those who wanted the English usages. I will wait until this is resolved before changing the Montreal article itself. --Larineso 5 July 2005 12:00 (UTC)

Hello. I don't want to create any controversy.
Too late. :-)
You do realize your stepping into a very sensitive area, right? The question of Montreal and language explodes at least once every few months or so here on Wikipedia and by unilaterally setting out on your course of action, you're likely going to provoke the latest detonation.
Seriously, I think this is an area where some cultural sensitivity needs to be shown; the names of the at least some of the places that you're renaming are officially French names and, at least in my opinion, the Wiki article titles should reflect the official names.
I'd strongly urge you to abandon the attempt to anglicise article titles wholesale.
Atlant 5 July 2005 14:00 (UTC)
All I'm asking is, perhaps could someone can show some sensitivity to my culture? --Larineso 5 July 2005 14:04 (UTC)
I agree with the comments that have been made, that an across-the-board change of names of articles is unwise. Certain articles could indeed be changed with little problem; others not. Recently, the University of Montreal article was renamed Université de Montréal, for example. This change was handled through the standard process, see Wikipedia:Requested moves, with discussion and voting before the change was. Perhaps you should consider going down this route. In any case, if you do insist on continuing, may I suggest that you change your procedure? You seem to create new articles and copy information into them. Could you use the Move function instead? This would keep the article's history intact. Next, could you ensure that you edit the article? Why rename Quartier international de Montréal, and then leave every reference to Quartier international de Montréal in French in the article? This seems to defeat the whole purpose. Finally, ensure that the new article name is correct. For example, in English the format is Main Street, not Main street. (See Yonge Street, Fleet Street, etc.) -- Grstain July 5, 2005 17:49 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. I acted harshly and outside of proper means. I apologize. I thought this would be more bloody an argument. I didn't realize everyone would be so amenable, for which I wish to thank you. I apologize to the Wikipedia community at large, specifically the people who have worked on these articles. I would like to collaborate on a Manual of Style for articles about Montreal. Please see my statements below, and visit the Montreal Wikiportal I created. Please contribute. I specifically direct you to the Discussion on English Names, and I ask you to post further comments there. That discussion is intended as the drawing board for the Manual of Style mentioned earlier. Thank you everyone for your understanding and level-headedness. --Larineso 6 July 2005 01:42 (UTC)

Proposal

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Articles that are often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers should have titles in French. Articles that are not often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers should have titles in English. We can establish whether an article is often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers through consensus.

In my experience, the following are often referred to in the French:

The following are not often referred to in the French:

I would argue that the following could fit in either category:

Perhaps I'm favouring the French, but this is what I and my friends use.

Cheers,

Acegikmo1 5 July 2005 19:51 (UTC)

Articles that are often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers should have titles in French. Articles that are not often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers should have titles in English. We can establish whether an article is often referred to in the French by anglophone Montrealers through consensus.
At first blush, this sounds right to me. The only thing I'd say is that Place Jacques-Cartier is distinguishable from the larger Old Port/Vieux Port neighbourhood.
Atlant 6 July 2005 00:06 (UTC)


I agree. Please see my statements above. I apaologize for my hasty action. I admit that I was risking creating serious problems. My original intention was to create some kind of Manual of Style for Montreal articles. Please see the Montreal Wikiportal I started and the discussion about names.

I agree that traditionally French names should stay that way, but I think that, since this is an English Encyclopedia, we should use the Egnslish version whenever it exists in common usage. As I have stated on Talk:Saint Lawrence boulevard, the use of the English or French name varies among different speakers.

I think it is correct to favour the English name in an English text, but of course with an explanation of the 'official' French name. We may wish to create a single page explaining this, which all Montreal-related articles can link to.

For the recored, although I have heard "Saint-Denis" and "Saint-Laurent" used, I would say that usage is about 50/50. Mount Royal, I believe, should definitely be in English, as it is a geographical feature (like the Saint Lawrence River). I have very, very rarely heard people refer to the Mountain as "Mont Royal". I really think this is excessively leaning toward French usage, even if we decided that the official French names were to be used.

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone for your level-headedness. It seems I was the most brash of everyone... I will wait until an agreement can be reached before taking any more action. Please see the discussion Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Montreal/Discussions/English Names and post further comments there. --Larineso 6 July 2005 01:33 (UTC)

Île des Sœurs → Nuns' Island

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Would you care to comment on my proposed move at Talk:Île des Sœurs? Thank you. - Farquard 18:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Place Alexis-Nihon

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As I mentionned on the article's talk page I've proposed a vote on the name whether we should put it in English or in French. In others I've asked them via your demand/proposal to Agree or Disagree on Moving the current article to Alexis-Nihon Plaza. I prefer to wait the say of others before doing a move--JForget 00:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Wendy Eitan, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree, discuss the issues raised at Talk:Wendy Eitan. If you remove the {{dated prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached.

Actually, I downgraded it from {{db-bio}} to {{prod}}... —Wknight94 (talk) 02:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Untagged image

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Hi Larineso,

I have noticed you creating this Montreal Logo, it looks really neat. What I have in mind is that, which font did you used to make the word "Montreal", and where did you get your flowers from?

 Smcafirst | Chit-Chat | SIGN  posted at 19:52, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the logo is neat, but are you sure that the GNU license which you claimed for it is valid? I'm not sure about the Montreal logo in the centre, in particular. Are you sure that it is available under a compatible license (in this case, probably PD if applicable)? If not, we may have to remove it from the article, despite how nice it looks. Nihiltres(t.l) 16:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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