User talk:Lambda/Archive 2

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Archive 2

How long will I be blocked? --70.146.127.147 (talk) 23:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!--70.146.127.147 (talk) 23:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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Black Star Co-op

The article originally died as the result of an expired prod, and the material contained no notability assertions whatsoever. Resurrection contained even less information, and my own search revealed very little that could be used to substantiate any notability whatsoever. I see stuff on blogs, online event listing services, myspace, and message boards, and the one site I think is a newspaper is crapping out on me every time I try to view the related pages. One article on The Austin American-Statesman, here, might be useful, but is not multiple coverage. If you want me to sandbox it for you, I'll do that, but if I toss it back into the main space, it might get attacked again. If you polish it up in a sandbox first, it might work out very well for it. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Lambda/Sandbox/Black_Star_Co-op. Have fun! - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment here. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 20:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully?

I do my best to understand the concerns of those who disagree with me. They might, after all, be right, and I might be wrong.

I would really appreciate it if you could see your way clear to trying to explain why you consider the OARDEC documents primary sources. An interrogation log would be a primary source, to my way of thinking, or the transcript from one of the hearings. But since the OARDEC memos were compiled separately, and independently, by a different agency than that charged with the responsibility for interrogation and detention, from other documents compiled by multiple agencies, I think they are canonical examples of "secondary sources".

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Greetings!

You wrote:

"If it turns out that his detention in specific is mentioned in secondary sources, then it would be reasonable to keep this article."

Well, he was specifically mentioned -- in Andy Worthington's excellent book, and in an article published in January 22 by the Associated Press by Alexandra Olson.

Worthington wrote:

Also captured at this time (and subsequently released) was a family of businessmen from Birmel, in Paktika Province, who were caught up on what the Americans described as 'a sweep of the Birmel town bazaar,' which was as random as it sounds. Twenty-seven-year-old Abdul Salaam, his 50-year-old brother Haji Osman Khan and his 19-year-old cousin Noor Aslam ran a hawalla (a money exchange forwarding business) with branches in the Pakistan and the UAE. Salaam was arrested at his shop by US and Afghan soldiers, but he insisted he was an honest businessman and had never received money on behalf of the Taliban or al-Qaeda; he explained that the money they received was from families outside the country who were supporting their families in Afghanistan.

Olson wrote:

The U.S. military held its last review tribunal in Guantanamo Bay on Saturday, hearing from a prisoner accused of running an Afghan business that was laundering money for terrorism, an official said. The 30-year-old detainee was the last of 558 men who had their cases considered by the Combatant Status Review Tribunals, which are meant to determine whether they are properly held as "enemy combatants" or should be freed, said Navy Lt. Terry Green, a tribunal spokesman. The prisoner allegedly ran an operation known as a "hawala," which U.S. authorities say is used by terrorists to secretly launder money and transfer millions of dollars, including money siphoned from Islamic charities. There were no details on what the business allegedly posed as. Two major customers had suspected links to the al-Qaida terrorist network, Green said.

• Alexandra Olson (January 22 2005). "Detainee Has Last Guantanamo Panel Review" (PDF). Associated Press. Retrieved 2008-06-03. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
• Andy Worthington (October 2007). The Guantanamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America's Illegal Prison. Pluto Press. pp. pages 180. ISBN 0745326658. Retrieved 2008-04-03. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: checksum (help)

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)